Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#751 Jul 3, 2009
Questioning the future wrote:
Diversifying our investments means putting our profits from our primary business into other opportunities.
IAC Mendon keeps putting all of our profits back into the main business. The danger of this is that when a down cycle occurs (current economy and curretn white house ineptness), everything is at risk. By diversifying investment into other areas, we could potentially minimize the risk that a downturn in one area will be economically fatal.
IAC Mendon can diversify its investments by buying stocks and bonds, by buying new investment product lines, or by putting money in manufacturing businesses owned and managed by others. In all those investments we will do better by concentrating in those areas in which we have an understanding of the industry (IACNA is automotive).
Diversifying into other lines of business may or may not reduce our risk. The most risky time for any new business brought into Mendon is the start-up / re-launch phase--when the market is being established / re-established.
Approximately three-quarters of all new businesses fail in the first year, and about half of those that survive will fail within the first five years. If you are starting new business or pulling old work back in at a time when your core business is suffering a downturn, you are increasing your risk.
Diversification may also increase the risk of failure in your core business, since a major cause of business failure is a lack of management focus on key objectives (we hve 50% of the salary people we had from last August). By trying to run more than one business / product at a time, management focus can be scattered and ineffective.
There is no simple answer to the question of whether or not we should/could diversify. It all depends on who you are and what you want. If you are successful at what you are doing, but feel you've saturated your market, then maybe diversification is a good thing.
But if you're unsuccessful at making automobile interiors (high scrap, poor attendance, poor direction), there's no guarantee that you won't also be unsuccessful at the new/old business. The grass only seems greener from the other side. When you get over there, you may find that it's a lovely green shade of crabgrass.
Suggestion(s): Move on and get out of what you are doing now and into something you can handle. You are never going to be comfortable like you were in 1999 - 2001. Go back to school and learn a needed trade or job skill. Pray that 2012 comes as quick as possible and that the next regime is not a socialist one. Smart people who risked it all in order to make a $$$ made the USA what it was.
Hang in there but don't think something is going to improve at our plant in the near future.
Reading your last sentence of your message I am wondering if this is strictly your opinion or if it is some actual insight of this plant? I'd really like to know since it truly affects my future and my personal decision career wise(if you want to call it that?)Thanks
Advanced Stupidly

Port Huron, MI

#752 Jul 3, 2009
Read between the lines. Bob Rossiter and Wilbur Ross will move jobs to low cost countries.

Since: May 09

United States

#753 Jul 3, 2009
Advanced Stupidly wrote:
I noticed how you started to blame all of IAC issues on an administration that has been in the White House for six months. What you need to do is point your finger to the Mr Bob Rossiter and Wilbur Ross greed show. Do you understand if Ross and Rossiter had their way all administration and production (Labor) work would be moved to a third world country. These clowns do not care about you or any one at IAC. They are concerned about the bottom line and that is money.....
It does not matter who is the White House..........Period........

Since: Apr 09

Three Rivers, MI

#754 Jul 3, 2009
Advance they are already there look at this site 1st thing is there plant in China.

http://www.iacna.com/

we need to keep making quality stuff to insure our jobs stay here and it cost them too much $$ right now to move anything so i think we will be here to 2012 then who the hell knows what is going to happen
Advanced Stupidly

Port Huron, MI

#756 Jul 3, 2009
Buddha Lear and IAC will be long gone by 2012. Remember the consumer (you and I) drives the "widget" price down. You can not manufacture a widget cheaper in this country than Asia or Mexico. The automotive manufacture base will be gone in ten years in this State.
Questioning the future

United States

#757 Jul 3, 2009

Since: Apr 09

Three Rivers, MI

#758 Jul 4, 2009
I think we will make it till 2012 if not i have my mad pizza skills to fall back on haha.

Since: Apr 09

Three Rivers, MI

#759 Jul 4, 2009
you are about 6 months late on that QtF that was all over the place.
Curious Laid-off Peer

United States

#760 Jul 7, 2009
How many people are actually working? What is running?
* Hourly?
* Salary?
* What shifts?
Educated Guess

Southfield, MI

#761 Jul 8, 2009
Curious Laid-off Peer wrote:
How many people are actually working? What is running?
* Hourly?
* Salary?
* What shifts?
This week about 180 working (combined hourly and salaried working primarily only 1st shift with a few folks on 3rd). Next week about 280 working (combined hourly and salaried working with about 30% on 3rd shift and 70% on 1st shift)
Curious Laid-off Peer

United States

#762 Jul 8, 2009
Believable information as all posts from inside the plant have "United States" as sending point. Thank you.
MeNdOn WoRkEr

Battle Creek, MI

#763 Jul 9, 2009
Curious Laid-off Peer wrote:
Believable information as all posts from inside the plant have "United States" as sending point. Thank you.
And your information is for what purpose? in reference to what comment?
Curious Laid-off Peer

United States

#764 Jul 9, 2009
For the numbers on personnel and shifts producing high quality interior components for a number of vehicles used for transporting people, goods and consumable items.

Internal information is seemingly more believable as it generally woul dhave come from a salary individual (most notably a personnel department salary individual).

A "United States" send point tag in the sender's block is created when information, such as email, is created from inside of the IAC Mendon facility.

It has to do with the corporate data system in eastern Michigan. Information did not necessarily come from Mendon but is believable none the less due to the location sourced from.
Wauseon IAC

Southfield, MI

#765 Jul 9, 2009
Curious Laid-off Peer wrote:
For the numbers on personnel and shifts producing high quality interior components for a number of vehicles used for transporting people, goods and consumable items.
Internal information is seemingly more believable as it generally woul dhave come from a salary individual (most notably a personnel department salary individual).
A "United States" send point tag in the sender's block is created when information, such as email, is created from inside of the IAC Mendon facility.
It has to do with the corporate data system in eastern Michigan. Information did not necessarily come from Mendon but is believable none the less due to the location sourced from.
You may want to recheck your theory. I am sending this e-mail from my home in Ohio. I am a laid off from IAC Wauseon.
Stuck in Sheboygan

Milwaukee, WI

#766 Jul 9, 2009
Wauseon IAC wrote:
<quoted text>
You may want to recheck your theory. I am sending this e-mail from my home in Ohio. I am a laid off from IAC Wauseon.
I am going to assume that the point of origin can't be determined by this board and only knows that it originates from the US. Could probably be a number of things; proxy, firewall, too many jumps in the routing to this server from the client. Just a guess.
Mendon Person

United States

#767 Jul 9, 2009
gordy wrote:
Just curious what each plant produces i.e. carpet, plastics ? thanks
Mendon produces Chrysler headliners for the Caliber, Patriot and Compass and also molds and assembles the interior door panels for these as well. We make the GMT 20% storage armrest as well as the GMT non-storage armrest and GMX rear seta armrest. Also, several climate control panels for Ford. That includes molding of most of the components for these (some of this molding is now farmed out to a sub-contractor). We currently make some overhead consoles for the GMX program for Generous Motors and some other small items for them. We mold most of what we assemble and also do many shoot and ship items. We also make the foam cushions for the armrest lines. We are now out of the sunvisor business but still build service for Ford on the M-2 line.
In response to earlier questions about Rick Plate at Alma, I remember him well. He is not really a bad guy but is a bit self-important and cocky. He was a big star at Central Michigan University. He even had an autographed picture of himself in uniform on his desk! That always made me laugh to myself. I always thought of Al Bundy from married With Children. He also thought he was a star because he had four touchdowns in one game, but that was high school. Rick did not strike me as an overly-bright guy. I always felt he was in over his head. I also saw him be rather childish and totally blow up over nothing once. I could not believe my eyes. But, I do feel his heart is in the right place and that he tries as best he can. Jody Flinton is pretty good. Very smart but does not like to listen to others at times. Too rambunctious but he is still young and I don't fault him for that. He is a real go-getter who is not afraid to put in the time and get his hands dirty. I have seen him with bloodshot eyes from working so much on countless occasions. A plant could do MUCH worse. He is a bit clique-ish.
I think Mendon will be fine in the long-run. We just need to get the economy moving again and I think we will have a great future. Wilbur Ross will have IAC well placed when things pick up again. We all need to keep a positive attitude. I know that sounds cliche but it's true. Too many employees feel like the job is an entitlement instead of a luxury. Sure, consessions suck, as do lay-offs, I have been hit by both, but it is what is is. Lear/IAC has been pretty good to me over the years and I want to be here for many more. It has provided for me and my family without pause until this current economic mess. It seems like most of the complainers come from the ranks of people hired from the former Kirsch company that went out of business in Sturgis. I don't know why but they complain more than anyone. I would think that after one employer closing their doors and letting them go they would be more apt to do what they can to keep it from happening again! Or not.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#768 Jul 9, 2009
Mendon Person wrote:
<quoted text>
Mendon produces Chrysler headliners for the Caliber, Patriot and Compass and also molds and assembles the interior door panels for these as well. We make the GMT 20% storage armrest as well as the GMT non-storage armrest and GMX rear seta armrest. Also, several climate control panels for Ford. That includes molding of most of the components for these (some of this molding is now farmed out to a sub-contractor). We currently make some overhead consoles for the GMX program for Generous Motors and some other small items for them. We mold most of what we assemble and also do many shoot and ship items. We also make the foam cushions for the armrest lines. We are now out of the sunvisor business but still build service for Ford on the M-2 line.
In response to earlier questions about Rick Plate at Alma, I remember him well. He is not really a bad guy but is a bit self-important and cocky. He was a big star at Central Michigan University. He even had an autographed picture of himself in uniform on his desk! That always made me laugh to myself. I always thought of Al Bundy from married With Children. He also thought he was a star because he had four touchdowns in one game, but that was high school. Rick did not strike me as an overly-bright guy. I always felt he was in over his head. I also saw him be rather childish and totally blow up over nothing once. I could not believe my eyes. But, I do feel his heart is in the right place and that he tries as best he can. Jody Flinton is pretty good. Very smart but does not like to listen to others at times. Too rambunctious but he is still young and I don't fault him for that. He is a real go-getter who is not afraid to put in the time and get his hands dirty. I have seen him with bloodshot eyes from working so much on countless occasions. A plant could do MUCH worse. He is a bit clique-ish.
I think Mendon will be fine in the long-run. We just need to get the economy moving again and I think we will have a great future. Wilbur Ross will have IAC well placed when things pick up again. We all need to keep a positive attitude. I know that sounds cliche but it's true. Too many employees feel like the job is an entitlement instead of a luxury. Sure, consessions suck, as do lay-offs, I have been hit by both, but it is what is is. Lear/IAC has been pretty good to me over the years and I want to be here for many more. It has provided for me and my family without pause until this current economic mess. It seems like most of the complainers come from the ranks of people hired from the former Kirsch company that went out of business in Sturgis. I don't know why but they complain more than anyone. I would think that after one employer closing their doors and letting them go they would be more apt to do what they can to keep it from happening again! Or not.
Well I am a former Kirsch employee and I do know there have been some whiners that came to IAC but it isn't fair to stereotype. True, a lot of us actually loved our job at Kirsch it was a great place to work and we were treated well(much better than our current employer)and it didn't close because of any of us or for poor quality etc. Newell bought several companies just for their reputation and name and then produced it somewhere over the border using low quality materials and cheap labor(sound familiar?) Many people worked for years and thought they'd retire there and now they wonder if it will happen again..so there is a reason for their concern. It is hard to get the economy going again though with an uncertain future..not very many people want to make any big purchases like cars only the necessities. I can't help but wonder about all the dealers that had to liquidate their inventories and now most of those cars are on the remaining lots..so how long before they have room for the newer cars on their lots?
MeNdOn WoRkEr

Battle Creek, MI

#769 Jul 9, 2009
Disgusted in Mendon wrote:
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Well I am a former Kirsch employee and I do know there have been some whiners that came to IAC but it isn't fair to stereotype. True, a lot of us actually loved our job at Kirsch it was a great place to work and we were treated well(much better than our current employer)and it didn't close because of any of us or for poor quality etc. Newell bought several companies just for their reputation and name and then produced it somewhere over the border using low quality materials and cheap labor(sound familiar?) Many people worked for years and thought they'd retire there and now they wonder if it will happen again..so there is a reason for their concern. It is hard to get the economy going again though with an uncertain future..not very many people want to make any big purchases like cars only the necessities. I can't help but wonder about all the dealers that had to liquidate their inventories and now most of those cars are on the remaining lots..so how long before they have room for the newer cars on their lots?
I have worked with most of the Kirsch people that came into Lear/IAC...The only thing I have heard them "whine" about was how our union handled things, but not about the actual work. Now who has not complained once in their lifetime when they thought the union should have done something differently than was done? I myself can't say that i never have...so hats off to you rene for sticking up and standing up..not everyone that came to us from kirsch is a bad apple...Every plant has many apples...some are just more sour than others.

Since: Apr 09

Three Rivers, MI

#770 Jul 10, 2009
yes and we have a few apples that we can all deal without. I have to agree w/ u MW the most i have talked about with kirsch employees is how our local handled things. There are far to many peps bitching about everything to break them into Kirsch and non Kirsch.

Since: May 09

United States

#772 Jul 10, 2009
That's a positive sign..........What year did you hire on?

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