IAC and UAW concessions

[Just Wondering]

I was just wondering if all these concessions is worth only a year guarantee of work? Most people out there don't even know whats up yet. They say they are asking for the same things from all of the plants. Is this true?

[Beaver Breath]

Just Wondering wrote:

I was just wondering if all these concessions is worth only a year guarantee of work? Most people out there don't even know whats up yet. They say they are asking for the same things from all of the plants. Is this true?

Think about this with a one year guarantee! Are going to be able to take a nice vacation, a cruise, buy a new car, hell even a house, a student loan for the kids. The answer is F**k no. Your going to have to keep the money in your savings account. Incase they close your plant after the first year. Then after that you can start wondering about the second year then the third year. Who the hell wants to live like that. They might give you a guarantee that they will not close your plant for one year. Just remember though, If they lay everybody off but one person in your plant IT IS STILL OPEN

[Just Wondering]

Beaver Breath wrote:

<quoted text>Think about this with a one year guarantee! Are going to be able to take a nice vacation, a cruise, buy a new car, hell even a house, a student loan for the kids. The answer is F**k no. Your going to have to keep the money in your savings account. Incase they close your plant after the first year. Then after that you can start wondering about the second year then the third year. Who the hell wants to live like that. They might give you a guarantee that they will not close your plant for one year. Just remember though, If they lay everybody off but one person in your plant IT IS STILL OPEN

My thoughts exactly. I don't think everybody realizes the end game. I personally am tired of giving. I think the should just leave us alone and get what they want by other means, but I also think this is wishful thinking. Oh what to do what to do

[GINGERMAN]

What to do you say!?!? stand strong and don't let the corporate machine run you over. Ooh ahh 1 year guarantee that is what I will tell the electric company, mortgage company, ect well I promise to pay you for another year but after that well we will see what happens, do you agree to that.

[Stuck in Sheboygan]

Speaking for myself, but I think IAC can stick it on that one. I wish I were there for the meeting but I was on vacation and I would have voted 'No' on it.

I don't know all the details as I was not there for the meeting but I get the impression that basically they have every intention of closing us and it is more just a matter of when that is going to happen. I also feel that with this shelf contract is that our only chance of staying alive is if the other plants that IAC owns were to get filled to capacity and they have no choice but to utilize the floor space in these three plants.

As another person had told me also, once anyone agrees to these shelf contracts, they will probably try to use it against the other plants that aren't against the gun like us three.

I'm sure they probably gave the song and dance about how IAC isn't doing well right now and to a point they are probably right but wager a bit to say that IAC's profit line is in the position that it is in because it is self inflicted by Corporate (purchasing other plants, ground breaking on new plants, start up costs of new business, costs of modifying existing business). Sorry, but I don't feel anyone but our owners should have to offset the costs of their expansion venture.

[Beaver Breath]

Stuck in Sheboygan wrote:

Speaking for myself, but I think IAC can stick it on that one. I wish I were there for the meeting but I was on vacation and I would have voted 'No' on it.
I don't know all the details as I was not there for the meeting but I get the impression that basically they have every intention of closing us and it is more just a matter of when that is going to happen. I also feel that with this shelf contract is that our only chance of staying alive is if the other plants that IAC owns were to get filled to capacity and they have no choice but to utilize the floor space in these three plants.
As another person had told me also, once anyone agrees to these shelf contracts, they will probably try to use it against the other plants that aren't against the gun like us three.
I'm sure they probably gave the song and dance about how IAC isn't doing well right now and to a point they are probably right but wager a bit to say that IAC's profit line is in the position that it is in because it is self inflicted by Corporate (purchasing other plants, ground breaking on new plants, start up costs of new business, costs of modifying existing business). Sorry, but I don't feel anyone but our owners should have to offset the costs of their expansion venture.

Well said!!

[Just Wondering]

Has anyone voted on the concessions yet? If so what did you do?

[Uniongal 2386]

Madisonville Ky voted no yesterday.

[LEAR FOREVER]

I for one like it when workers tell management
"NO". They always threaten the workers with plant closures but they never cut their HIGH WAGES. They believe that they are to good to takes pay cut. If IAC took Federal Money, Obama will cut wages.
In Lear Roscommon, It took 3 votes to ratify a new contract. The first 2 votes were "NO". But they UNION allowed a 3rd vote and that "YES" sealed the deal.
UAW, United with management Against Workers

Way to go, Madisonville, KY.

[wondering]

Anyone vote yet?

[Laid Off]

Well here in Sidney, Brent and Ron are looking out for their own butt's, they both been here long enough to keep making the big money & to get the best insurance the company is offering, and every one that is at the top will have a target on their backs, but you want get a rep to stand up for your rights, it would be suicide, were done here, it will just be a matter of time, Wilbur all ready has us cutting or own throats, I was told that Formed Fiber got the Honda account, we have been waiting on, they bought most of what was left of BBI, So now we have even less to look forward too, Thanks Ron & Brent, you to suck, and Ron, your X Lisa, told me your going to be a daddy,lol

[We The People]

greencastles vote 342 no 21 yes

[Just Wondering]

So far I see madisonville, greencastle, and mendon voted no. Good job guys and good luck. Hope my plant does the same. Anybody else vote yet?

[1 of 20 in Wauseon]

We haven't received an offer yet. Our contract is in November. I refuse to vote for ANY concessions. When IAC and the rest of the automotive industry moves to Mexico, China, etc. it only hurts America and the overall economy and they don't care about America, all they care about is how much wealth they can aquire. Guess what, this is a great country and we don't need these fat cats. We will find a way to move on without them. We are the middle class, and without us the rich will fail too. Stay strong brothers and sisters. We are UAW. We are the middle class. We are AMERICA!!!!!!!!

[Headliner man]

Port huron Voted Yes 83 to 31 and 100 people
didnt show.
We live to Fight another day!

[Sheboygan 2376]

Sheboygan has a meeting on Wednesday. My feelings are that the vote is a yes!!! No Balls...
Question is why aren't the laid off employees' envolved in the vote? I no ask the UNION right???

[LEAR FOREVER]

In Roscommon, if you were laid-off and 6 months had passed, you were no longer considered a member in good standing. With the high seniority workers voting the company has a better chance of the concessions being accepted. OLD DOGS can't do new tricks, like look for a new job.
One OLD DOG in Roscommon said, " Why should I vote NO?, I only have a few years to work before I retire. At least I have a job until then!

He is a Good Union Brother!

[We The People]

There are an awful lot of benefits offered to people whos jobs go out of the country. If you are over 50 you can even get full pay through some voucher program I heard of. We at Greencastle will not work for less.

[buddha503]

There has been no vote @ Mendon. As far as I know we are not voting because we have a contract Until 2012.

[Stuck in Sheboygan]

Sheboygan 2376 wrote:

Sheboygan has a meeting on Wednesday. My feelings are that the vote is a yes!!! No Balls...
Question is why aren't the laid off employees' envolved in the vote? I no ask the UNION right???

Don't quote me on this, but I do believe it is also six months also here, as in if you are laid off for more than six months you are no longer able to vote etc as the other person had stated. I think that may be a UAW standard?