Immigration debate hot

Immigration debate hot

There are 18 comments on the www.austindailyherald.com story from Aug 19, 2008, titled Immigration debate hot. In it, www.austindailyherald.com reports that:

"You are being lied to, people," Ruthie Hendrycks told her audience Monday night.

The founder and president of Minnesotans Seeking Immigration Reform, Hendrycks’ statements were met with enthusiastic applause as she and other immigration reform supporters voiced opinions and encouragement at a Town Hall Meeting at Oak Park Mall in Austin.

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Chylloh

United States

#1 Aug 19, 2008
Ms. Hendrycks is right, the American patriots are being lied too about many, many things.

P.S. what is in Minnesota that illegal aliens are flocking there? tacos?

“The US: an endangered species.”

Since: May 07

Peavine

#2 Aug 20, 2008
I don't dislike Mexicans and other Hispanics, or Asians and Africans, or Eastern Europeans... I have a real problem, though, with ANYONE that doesn't respect MY nation enough to abide by its rules and regulations.

Illegal aliens are criminals, regardless of how noble or pathos laden their reasons for wanting to live in MY country are. If you don't respect the sovereignty of MY country's borders, then you don't DESERVE to be here in any capacity.

Other countries in the world have major problems with population migrations across their borders. They seem to be able to enforce very strict applications of their immigration rules. WE can, too. We can, despite what vote-hungry politicians say... despite what profit-hungry, neo-slavers say... despite what bias-driven, liberal media say.

The good, decent, Middle-Class folks of this country have basically had enough of this crap. If our economy becomes more depressed there will be more and more instances of violence and aggression against ANYONE perceived as an illegal alien working and/or receiving benefits at the expense of CITIZENS of MY country.

The CITIZENS that are truly PO'd about the invasion of illegal aliens aren't those of us posting here and elsewhere. They are typically silent... and watching. They do, however, vote when their wallets are threatened; and just not at the polls... but at churches and stores they frequent.

Many illegals are deporting themselves, now... I think we need to assist in deporting those that are trying to remain here. If you know of illegals, call ICE and keep calling ICE till they do something. This is your taxes paying for supporting illegals. It's also your taxes paying for ICE. Which one do you want spending your taxes?

“freedom or else!”

Since: May 08

Yorktown, VA

#3 Aug 20, 2008
Buff wrote:
I don't dislike Mexicans and other Hispanics, or Asians and Africans, or Eastern Europeans... I have a real problem, though, with ANYONE that doesn't respect MY nation enough to abide by its rules and regulations.
In that case you must have a problem with everybody. We all break the "rules and regulations" of MY country on occasion, and usually for totally stupid or selfish reasons.

“freedom or else!”

Since: May 08

Yorktown, VA

#4 Aug 20, 2008
Buff wrote:
Illegal aliens are criminals, regardless of how noble or pathos laden their reasons for wanting to live in MY country are. If you don't respect the sovereignty of MY country's borders, then you don't DESERVE to be here in any capacity.
"illegal aliens" are not criminals any more than you or I. We have both broken the law at some point. If you want to live in MY country you need to understand that the fact that we were born here does not make us more deserving than anybody else.

“freedom or else!”

Since: May 08

Yorktown, VA

#5 Aug 20, 2008
Buff wrote:
Other countries in the world have major problems with population migrations across their borders. They seem to be able to enforce very strict applications of their immigration rules. WE can, too. We can, despite what vote-hungry politicians say... despite what profit-hungry, neo-slavers say... despite what bias-driven, liberal media say.
If you want to live in a country with militarized borders, and draconian laws then go ahead, they are not hard to find.
BTW, if these countries are "able to enforce very strict applications of their immigration rules" then why do they have "major problems with population migrations across their borders"?

“freedom or else!”

Since: May 08

Yorktown, VA

#6 Aug 20, 2008
Buff wrote:
The good, decent, Middle-Class folks of this country have basically had enough of this crap. If our economy becomes more depressed there will be more and more instances of violence and aggression against ANYONE perceived as an illegal alien working and/or receiving benefits at the expense of CITIZENS of MY country.
Don't confuse yourself with the "good, decent, middle-class folks" of MY country. These people will not be moved to commit violence against "anyone" who may be "perceived" (I assume through appearance) as an "illegal", nor do they blame the condition of the economy on immigrants, they are smarter than that.

“freedom or else!”

Since: May 08

Yorktown, VA

#7 Aug 20, 2008
Buff wrote:
The CITIZENS that are truly PO'd about the invasion of illegal aliens aren't those of us posting here and elsewhere. They are typically silent... and watching. They do, however, vote when their wallets are threatened; and just not at the polls... but at churches and stores they frequent.
We'll have to wait and see how the citizens of MY country vote at the polls, but one things for sure... there will not be a starch anti-"illegal" immigrant president in the white house this year. The voters have already spoken on that.
Pat Kittle

Santa Cruz, CA

#8 Aug 20, 2008
wobble wrote:
<quoted text>
If you want to live in a country with militarized borders, and draconian laws then go ahead, they are not hard to find.
BTW, if these countries are "able to enforce very strict applications of their immigration rules" then why do they have "major problems with population migrations across their borders"?
Duh... maybe they had the problems UNTIL they enforced their immigration laws...

You obviously think overpopulation doesn't exist. Where'd you get that from -- the Vatican, the corporations, knee-jerk liberals, or semi-literate immigrants?

“freedom or else!”

Since: May 08

Yorktown, VA

#9 Aug 20, 2008
Pat Kittle wrote:
<quoted text>
Duh... maybe they had the problems UNTIL they enforced their immigration laws...
You obviously think overpopulation doesn't exist. Where'd you get that from -- the Vatican, the corporations, knee-jerk liberals, or semi-literate immigrants?
I know overpopulation exist...just not in the U.S. Places like China, and Japan have many more people per square mile than the U.S and their economys are growing. Places like Sudan, have far fewer people per square mile than the U.S, but their economy is ruined. Population size does not determine a nations strength or weakness.
b4its2late

Phillipsburg, NJ

#10 Aug 20, 2008
wobble wrote:
<quoted text>
"illegal aliens" are not criminals any more than you or I. We have both broken the law at some point. If you want to live in MY country you need to understand that the fact that we were born here does not make us more deserving than anybody else.
STFU you are a serious fucktard. I would bet a paycheck you are hispanic
asian guy

Bangkok, Thailand

#11 Aug 20, 2008
wobble wrote:
<quoted text>
I know overpopulation exist...just not in the U.S. Places like China, and Japan have many more people per square mile than the U.S and their economys are growing. Places like Sudan, have far fewer people per square mile than the U.S, but their economy is ruined. Population size does not determine a nations strength or weakness.
we have a legal system for immigration. if you want to come into america, do it legally.

the legal system was made to prevent unwanted types of people from becoming citizens, and also for the purpose of controlling the numbers coming in.
Bella USA

Maricopa, AZ

#12 Aug 20, 2008
wobble wrote:
<quoted text>
We'll have to wait and see how the citizens of MY country vote at the polls, but one things for sure... there will not be a starch anti-"illegal" immigrant president in the white house this year. The voters have already spoken on that.
Well said !!! I totally agree with you. Why is it that when you write something that it's not racist, but it's right down common sense "you must be Hispanic" ? You don't have to be Hispanic
to see what's going on here. Sure, everybody is intiled to his own opinion, but you can read the hatred and evil spirit on people's minds and heart. Only towards Mexicans.
mjmno

United States

#13 Aug 20, 2008
wobble wrote:
<quoted text>
In that case you must have a problem with everybody. We all break the "rules and regulations" of MY country on occasion, and usually for totally stupid or selfish reasons.
We don't *all* commit crimes. The minute they step on U.S. soil they have committed a crime. What part of the word 'illegal' do you not get??
Pat Kittle

Santa Cruz, CA

#14 Aug 20, 2008
wobble wrote:
<quoted text>
I know overpopulation exist...just not in the U.S. Places like China, and Japan have many more people per square mile than the U.S and their economys are growing. Places like Sudan, have far fewer people per square mile than the U.S, but their economy is ruined. Population size does not determine a nations strength or weakness.
With all due respect, you repeat long discredited assumptions about overpopulation.

For a concise summary of the facts:
http://www.npg.org/faq.html
Pat Kittle

Santa Cruz, CA

#15 Aug 20, 2008
Bella USA wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said !!! I totally agree with you. Why is it that when you write something that it's not racist, but it's right down common sense "you must be Hispanic" ? You don't have to be Hispanic
to see what's going on here. Sure, everybody is intiled to his own opinion, but you can read the hatred and evil spirit on people's minds and heart. Only towards Mexicans.
When it comes to "hatred and evil spirit" it's hard to beat the Mexicans themselves. Reconquista" if you don't already know, is an attitude most (not all!) Mexicans have toward "taking over" the US.

http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/Quote...

A few direct quotes:

"We have an aging white America.They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population... I love it. They are sh----ng in their pants with fear. I love it... we have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
-- Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas

"The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot."
-- Excelsior - The national newspaper of Mexico

"We are practicing La Reconquista in California."
-- Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General

"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos...non-Latinos aren't watching, they aren't raising questions"
-- Fernando Guerra, professor, Loyola Marymount

"Republica del Norte," the Republic of the North, which would include the present U.S. states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, plus southern Colorado, along with several current Mexican states, is "an inevitability." The new "Hispanic homeland" should be brought into being "by any means necessary."
-- Charles Truxillo, professor, University of New Mexico

"... you are like the generals who command armies! We're in a state of war!"
-- Armando Navarro, professor, University of California

"Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die.... Through love of having children, we are going to take over."
-- Augustin Cebeda, Brown Berets
BELLA USA

Maricopa, AZ

#16 Aug 20, 2008
Pat Kittle, Santa Cruz CA
Like I stated before, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. If those American citizen
"Professors" want to believe that, so be it. I heard that almost 20yrs ago, when I was attending USC, and so did my mother. That's old men's thinking, nobody believes that.

Get a life Pat !!! Don't use that as an excuse to hide your hatred for ALL Mexicans. Enough with hypocrisy, already !!!

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#17 Aug 20, 2008
BELLA USA wrote:
Pat Kittle, Santa Cruz CA
Like I stated before, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. If those American citizen
"Professors" want to believe that, so be it. I heard that almost 20yrs ago, when I was attending USC, and so did my mother. That's old men's thinking, nobody believes that.
Get a life Pat !!! Don't use that as an excuse to hide your hatred for ALL Mexicans. Enough with hypocrisy, already !!!
Bella,

Regardless of when the statements were made they STILL reflect the hatred that Mexicans legal and illegal feel for Americans.

I see it in their eyes when they look at me. I am fluent in Spanish and I hear what they think of those pinche gringos.

So stop being a victim and start doing something to better yourselves because no one sees you people as victims.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#18 Aug 20, 2008
Bella USA wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said !!! I totally agree with you. Why is it that when you write something that it's not racist, but it's right down common sense "you must be Hispanic" ? You don't have to be Hispanic
to see what's going on here. Sure, everybody is intiled to his own opinion, but you can read the hatred and evil spirit on people's minds and heart. Only towards Mexicans.
I see you and Weeble Wobble are both still up to your old crap.

All illegals must leave, not just Mexicans. The problem is, we tend to focus on the largest and worst problem first, and that *is* Mexicans. They are not only the largest in number (of illegals) but also the ones causing the most problems with refusing to leave, rallying in our streets, demanding rights they have no right to demand, much less receive, etc.

So STFU until you get a clue. At present, you have no clue.

What are you, Bella the Clown? Go put your makeup on and scare some illegal brats into going home.

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