Harley-Davidson layoffs are company's...

Harley-Davidson layoffs are company's largest work-force reduct...

There are 59 comments on the InYork story from Apr 17, 2008, titled Harley-Davidson layoffs are company's largest work-force reduct.... In it, InYork reports that:

News that York's Harley-Davidson plant is cutting about 300 jobs did not come as a total surprise to Chris Day.

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anonymous

Pottstown, PA

#48 Jan 23, 2009
Contract? You guys don't need another contract. Your "Union" is burying that company. You guys don't even deserve another contract.
George

Marshall, VA

#49 Jan 23, 2009
CEB wrote:
When anything happens at Harley its the unions fault. When CAT left, it was the unions fault. The airline industry problems are the unions fault. Nobody seems to know that all the economic decisions for any company are made by upper management. These include contracts, wages, benefits, vacation, and insurance, etc. for both union and salaried.
Do you remember reading how upper management still gets huge bonuses even when companies are going down the drain. Harley can layoff 750 workers and still give out 4.5 million dollars in bonuses. Why didn't that make the newspapers? But it did make the stockholders report. Those 750 workers won't earn 4.5 million dollars this year.
How many of you know about Honda motorcycles closing their entire assembly plant in Ohio? Did you care about those workers? Did you know that the top Honda costs more than the HD Ultra Classic? Before it starts, do not start comparing the two bikes. This forum is about workers losing their jobs.
We are in a recession, regardless of what our goverment is telling us. Times will get tougher before getting better. We need to look out for each other and not lower ourselves to petty bickering and name calling.
Because it is mostly the unions fault! They want more and more, prices go up and people don't want to buy them!
A-Patriot Also

Holly Springs, NC

#50 Jan 26, 2009
A-Patriot wrote:
It is a sad day when one of the last holdouts in the true American Industry is struggling. If Harley goes under, what American Industry will be left? Waitressing?
I recently bought a harley and wanted to buy a jacket and chaps. Seems ONLY the bikes are american made. All the clothes are made overseas and for the prices they charge, they could have put those same 750 workers in a job making clothes and accesories. Who's the sellout?
A-Patriot Also

Holly Springs, NC

#51 Jan 26, 2009
anonymous wrote:
Contract? You guys don't need another contract. Your "Union" is burying that company. You guys don't even deserve another contract.
Easy to say that when you have no clue how unions work. Is it fair to keep lowering wages of the worker while CEO's and other top management keep getting huge bonuses every year? It used to be that CEO's only made about 15 times the rate of pay of the top paid employee, the rest of the profit went back into the company. It's not unions, it's corporate greed and the unions fighting to get a share for the workers!!
truth university

Broken Arrow, OK

#52 Jan 26, 2009
A-Patriot Also wrote:
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I recently bought a harley and wanted to buy a jacket and chaps. Seems ONLY the bikes are american made. All the clothes are made overseas and for the prices they charge, they could have put those same 750 workers in a job making clothes and accesories. Who's the sellout?
then patriot jeans would be 1500.00 dollars and chaps 3000.00 dollars. if they inflate them as much as they do there crappy bikes they sell. most of the accesoris they sell have china wrote on them too. the great american freedom machine huh? NOT!!!!!!!!!!
lennypie

Avon, CO

#53 Feb 27, 2009
Who Cares wrote:
They don't call em "hogs" for nothin'.
I don't see how they get these motorcycles to suck so much gas!
It's a 2 cylinder engine with just 2 wheels, you'd guess they would get twice the MPG of an average car, but they don't do they?
Do they even get 25 MPG?
This is where management's vision is lacking. These vehicles should be engineered to have a serious MPG advantage over a car, but I don't think they do.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a "hog" really is a "hog". And the gas tank is small too for the amount fuel required to go anywhere.
I think Harley could do some work on the MPG
and cruising range.
Check your facts before you vent.I have an '05 Road King that gets 40+ MPG and so do all the guys I ride with.
hijac

Montréal, Canada

#54 Mar 1, 2009
Rode a Gold WIng for 22 years and last year bought a Softail Heritage.
One BIG regret is now haunting me.
Why on earth I'd didn't buy a Harley sooner. Gold Wings are great bikes and I won't knock them but the Softail is heaven and brings back the love of riding for me. Unless you have had one before its very easy to talk about the negative issue. As in Maxizth1 comment you just don't have the right to comment if you don' know what your talking about because you haven't owned one.I thought like you up until last year but my whole prespective has now changed.Give it a try maybe yours will too.
M-Mazz

Lynnfield, MA

#55 Apr 4, 2009
Why is it that Harley Davidson is suffering,Laying of 1800 factory workers.Sales nation wide are way down,And I walk into 4 local HD dealers trying to buy a 2009 street glide,and these dealers all want MSRP.Thats just crazy in this economy,no one would walk into a GM dealer and pay MSRP for a Tahoe.The dealers are driving the final nails in Harleys coffin.I have cash and refuse to pay MSRP plus doc fees.
collinsfriend

Kelseyville, CA

#56 Apr 4, 2009
I have an HD Sportster 1200L and get 50+mpg.
truth university

Broken Arrow, OK

#57 Apr 4, 2009
collinsfriend wrote:
I have an HD Sportster 1200L and get 50+mpg.
so
simpledale

AOL

#58 Apr 17, 2009
I love all your posts, because they are really good!

The best is CEB's of April 18th, I think. CEB zeroes in pretty well.

When I took economics in college I hated it, but now I am glad it was a required course.
Everything is supply and demand. Everything. So when the demand for the supply of bikes or bananas goes up, so does the price. When the bright stars within an organization like Harley don't accept the fact the demand is falling and reduce their pricing accordingly, then they will lose what economists call "market share." Eventually their share rapidly declines as buyers move.
When we find bananas on sale at another store we go their for them. Same thing. We call it shopping. We shop for things like motorcycle buyers shop.
I DO HAVE a bitter taste for Harley. I applied over and over to work for them as a training and development professional with ten years of experience and a graduate degree and LOVE for the profession combined with real hands-on experience and application of training methods and aplications for real adults!. They passed me over each time for someone else. I offered to work for 30,000 dolars per year - same thing.
So I am not surprised and actually glad they are suffering.

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truth university

Broken Arrow, OK

#59 Apr 17, 2009
simpledale wrote:
I love all your posts, because they are really good!
The best is CEB's of April 18th, I think. CEB zeroes in pretty well.
When I took economics in college I hated it, but now I am glad it was a required course.
Everything is supply and demand. Everything. So when the demand for the supply of bikes or bananas goes up, so does the price. When the bright stars within an organization like Harley don't accept the fact the demand is falling and reduce their pricing accordingly, then they will lose what economists call "market share." Eventually their share rapidly declines as buyers move.
When we find bananas on sale at another store we go their for them. Same thing. We call it shopping. We shop for things like motorcycle buyers shop.
I DO HAVE a bitter taste for Harley. I applied over and over to work for them as a training and development professional with ten years of experience and a graduate degree and LOVE for the profession combined with real hands-on experience and application of training methods and aplications for real adults!. They passed me over each time for someone else. I offered to work for 30,000 dolars per year - same thing.
So I am not surprised and actually glad they are suffering.
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good story dale. it seems harley is its own worst enemy.......
USdecline

Downers Grove, IL

#60 May 18, 2009
Isn't fate funny. What goes around comes around. The most American product there is, is moving to China. It goes to show where the future is. Its Asia. The U.S. is finished. China OWNS the U.S with all its debt. Only now people are starting to wake up after its too late when some have been warning about this for years..
nytrayn2000

Newville, PA

#61 May 19, 2009
mmnba wrote:
<quoted text> your just old and bitter because you never planned for your golden years like so many in this country. now you want to blame someone because the handout you thought you deserved is not there. practice what you preach....
It`s not a "hand out".This man worked all his life and paid into Social Security,so why shouldn`t he be entitled to it?The real problem is our Government,and their misuse of OUR money!WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!With all the money deposited into the SS fund each year,shouldn`t there be a sizable amount of interest gained on it?And why are our "leaders" in Washington telling us that the funds in the SS system will be exhausted within the next 10 to 20 years.It`s time to hold these bureaucratic bungholes accountable for what they have done and are doing to us.ALL OF US!If you are reading this post,I ask that you go to the thread "Where`s Our Bailout?"I researched this topic quite extensively and you will be amazed at what I have found.It is all laid out in that post,so please take a minute and read it.I`m not out for self glorification,rather to inform and educate others as to the injustices being done to us each and every day.
nytrayn2000

Newville, PA

#62 May 19, 2009
I failed to mention that I was a twelve year employee at the H-D York facility.But that`s a whole other matter,which I discussed at length in the other two H-D York threads.
Jack

AOL

#63 Jul 19, 2009
We just went to the HD Museum in Milwaukee, WI beautiful. A true American success story from start to present day. As with any mass produced item workers are the first to go when it should be at least half of the people in management that really don't contribute anything except lip service. High paid positions should be eliminated except those that really make a difference. Engineers, designers, planners, reasearch and development are the only important ones. Who needs a CEO anyway. Harley needs some new designs for bikes in their lineup with smaller more efficient water cooled engines. Less massive easier handling not like driving a MAC Truck. The first Harley I owned was a 1956 165cc Hummer and loved it. Commuting is where it's at now and crotch rockets need some real competetion in performance and price. You can't tell me HD doesn't have the reasources to design a light, fast, inexpensive, water cooled competetive bike not a Buell to compete with the crotch rocket style bikes of the present. Ultra Classics are cool but so are V Rods and something smaller, faster, more affordable newly designed beautiful. Lets go HD get with it. I'm waiting!
truth university

Broken Arrow, OK

#64 Jul 20, 2009
Jack wrote:
We just went to the HD Museum in Milwaukee, WI beautiful. A true American success story from start to present day. As with any mass produced item workers are the first to go when it should be at least half of the people in management that really don't contribute anything except lip service. High paid positions should be eliminated except those that really make a difference. Engineers, designers, planners, reasearch and development are the only important ones. Who needs a CEO anyway. Harley needs some new designs for bikes in their lineup with smaller more efficient water cooled engines. Less massive easier handling not like driving a MAC Truck. The first Harley I owned was a 1956 165cc Hummer and loved it. Commuting is where it's at now and crotch rockets need some real competetion in performance and price. You can't tell me HD doesn't have the reasources to design a light, fast, inexpensive, water cooled competetive bike not a Buell to compete with the crotch rocket style bikes of the present. Ultra Classics are cool but so are V Rods and something smaller, faster, more affordable newly designed beautiful. Lets go HD get with it. I'm waiting!
id buy a hd crotch rocket tommorow. but old willie g wont have anything to do with it. his antiquated ways are putting the final nails on the coffin hes to stupid to think ouitside the lines as to what the younger generation wants. so ill buy a rice rocket the japs are sellin them buy the ton.
independent

Yorktown, VA

#66 Oct 31, 2009
The true owners of the MoCo couldn't care less about what we have to say here and also don't care about the plant workers - we are all expendable. Their only concern is the bottom line. Taxes and government regulations cut into that bottom line to a great extent so workers pay the price. A business that goes through a boom time and expects that to remain is not managed well - no foresight and is a menace. HD has been operated like a small time, boom business and is going through the last twitches of a dieing mismanaged company. Maybe Obama will take it over and get it back on it's feet like GM, Chrysler, and the Banks....Call it Harley Government Davidson and put some head bobbing, lacy pantied liberal in charge.

I bought a Screaming Eagle Road King in '08 and it's the best motorcycle I have ever owned. I've been riding Harley's for a long time and have kept a few of the favorite ones but if HD moves to China, I will not buy another 'Harley China Davidson'. I will also find alternative sources for parts for what I have. They will cease to exist to me. They are screwing me and my friends so screw them! Let the Chinese ride their 'Chinese Harley Iron'...
KJB

Frederick, MD

#68 Mar 8, 2011
A-Patriot Also wrote:
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I recently bought a harley and wanted to buy a jacket and chaps. Seems ONLY the bikes are american made. All the clothes are made overseas and for the prices they charge, they could have put those same 750 workers in a job making clothes and accesories. Who's the sellout?
takes much more skill to make clothing than assembling motorcycles, why train them to do it when people are already trained over seas? and most that high price is dealler profit.

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