Redesigned Vue boasts hybrid options

One of the bright spots in General Motors' lineup in this year of high fuel prices is the Saturn Vue compact crossover utility vehicle.

[Tom Loy]

If its the most fuel efficient v6, why isn't mpg mentioned?

[Colorado Ray]

Tom Loy wrote:

If its the most fuel efficient v6, why isn't mpg mentioned?

Why would it matter? You and the others will bash it because it is not an import from japan.

[Tom Loy]

Colorado Ray wrote:

<quoted text>Why would it matter? You and the others will bash it because it is not an import from japan.

Au contrare, if it got over 30 mpg highway, I would certainly consider buying it.

[Truckin]

I liked the old design Vue much better. The new one weighs 800lbs more than the old one and the reliability and performance from the Honda SOHC motor (yes, GM turned to Honda) was unparalleled.

[Tom Loy]

Thats DUMB to come out with a vehicle that weighs MORE! That cancels out a lot of any mpg gains.

[Johnny]

it gets better mph than the old one

[Chris]

"Thats DUMB to come out with a vehicle that weighs MORE! That cancels out a lot of any mpg gains. "
No it is not. Teh extra weight is largely due to SAFETY EQUIPEMENT. How is that dumb ????!?

[70plyRR]

Also, if the vehicle is so bad why is it getting such good reviews? I think someone might be out to get GM hence the negative comments posted above.

[Tom Loy]

Because the heavier it gets, the worse mpg it gets. And the EPA has not changed the safety regs to my knowledge so I doubt its safety equipment due to the 800 pound increase. More likely sloppy engineering.

[Truckin]

Tom Loy wrote:

Because the heavier it gets, the worse mpg it gets. And the EPA has not changed the safety regs to my knowledge so I doubt its safety equipment due to the 800 pound increase. More likely sloppy engineering.

And the switch to heavy metal body panels instead of the novel polymer panels that debuted on the original VUE.

Also, the Honda 3.5L SOHC VTEC powertrain offered the same power with less weight and sophistication. GM gave the VUE the complex 3.6L DOHC motor.

[Tom Loy]

Truckin wrote:

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And the switch to heavy metal body panels instead of the novel polymer panels that debuted on the original VUE.
Also, the Honda 3.5L SOHC VTEC powertrain offered the same power with less weight and sophistication. GM gave the VUE the complex 3.6L DOHC motor.

Now that I believe. I'll bet the GM motor costs less than the honda. Same for the polymer. I'll bet steel is cheaper. The accountants rule at GM.

[70plyRR]

While you two speculate, the Vue is still getting better MPG.

[Chris - Toronto]

"Also, the Honda 3.5L SOHC VTEC powertrain offered the same power with less weight and sophistication. GM gave the VUE the complex 3.6L DOHC motor. "

You guys can't have it both ways. If GM gave is a pushrod engine, you guys would be saying that it is prehistoric. Now that it has a DOHC, you site it as "complex" - with a negative connotation.

You speak with two tongues.

[Colorado Ray]

Chris - Toronto wrote:

"Also, the Honda 3.5L SOHC VTEC powertrain offered the same power with less weight and sophistication. GM gave the VUE the complex 3.6L DOHC motor. "
You guys can't have it both ways. If GM gave is a pushrod engine, you guys would be saying that it is prehistoric. Now that it has a DOHC, you site it as "complex" - with a negative connotation.
You speak with two tongues.

Excellent comment! Most of the people on here are less than knowledgeable and line up to take shots at anything GM.

[Obie Trice]

It is true, the new VUE is severely overweight versus the previous model and the new powertrains are lackluster.

[Colorado Ray]

Obie Trice wrote:

It is true, the new VUE is severely overweight versus the previous model and the new powertrains are lackluster.

3.6 lackluster? I am sure it is the same one used in the CTS and coming out in the new Camaro. At 300hp, far from it! I know, we can't praise it because it is not a jap engine.

[Tom Loy]

I am not concerned about the 3.6 litre engine's sophistication. And does the 3.6 have cylinder deactivation? My concern is the weight increase of 800 pounds.

[Truckin]

Colorado Ray wrote:

<quoted text>3.6 lackluster? I am sure it is the same one used in the CTS and coming out in the new Camaro. At 300hp, far from it! I know, we can't praise it because it is not a jap engine.

The 3.6L DOHC in the VUE is not the same 300hp model as that in the CTS and upcoming Camaro. The newer 3.6L has direct injection and has higher specific output.

The V6 in the VUE is "de-tuned".

[70plyRR]

It’s quite amusing watching you fumble.

[Colorado Ray]

Truckin wrote:

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The 3.6L DOHC in the VUE is not the same 300hp model as that in the CTS and upcoming Camaro. The newer 3.6L has direct injection and has higher specific output.
The V6 in the VUE is "de-tuned".

I think it may be similiar to the new Traverse we got in today. It has a direct injected version of the 3.6 with aprox 260hp.