Advertiser 'friends' step in

Advertiser 'friends' step in

There are 22 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 6, 2008, titled Advertiser 'friends' step in. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

A group of prominent citizens calling itself Friends of the Honolulu Advertiser is asking Gannett Co.

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Time to clean house

Honolulu, HI

#1 Aug 6, 2008
Platte is a brown-nosed jerk who should have been fired a long time ago. Deport him back to LA, where lying and grasping for power and money is more acceptable.
NOSEY

Maunaloa, HI

#2 Aug 6, 2008
I HAVE NOT SEEN HOW MUCH THE EMPLOYEES ARE MAKING. IF THEY ARE MAKING GOOD MONEY, THEY SHOULDN'T BE COMPLAINING.
ITS SEE SOME NUMBERS.
Nosier

Honolulu, HI

#3 Aug 6, 2008
I have not seen how much the Advertiser and its top managers like Platte and Webber are making. If they are making good money, they shouldn't be complaining. Let's see some numbers.
Two Sides To Every Story

Wailuku, HI

#4 Aug 6, 2008
While we all sympathize with those losing their jobs, the Friends need to take a realistic look at this situation. Few industries have been as dramatically impacted by the internet as newspaper. If the Advertiser is not able to right-size their operation to keep up with these changes, there's a greater chance of this becoming the one-newspaper town they fear. And anyone employed in the newspaper business should be focusing on learning and applying new skills (internet, video, blogging, etc.) if they want to remain employed in the years to come. That's not a Gannett-specific decision; that's reality.
Shareholder

Silver Spring, MD

#5 Aug 6, 2008
You can subscribe to the Starbulletin for $10.00 less per month then the Advertiser and they have the same news. You can advertise on Craigslist for free. Who needs the newspaper when you can read it on the internet. What are they friends going to do? offer money or just hot air.
Xwriter

Makawao, HI

#6 Aug 6, 2008
?Question .. does anyone know how much $$ the Honolulu Advertiser's subsidary company (aka. Pennysaver Hawaii and autoshopper hawaii) made in July? This is where most of the generated funds come from? Call and see how much these two papers really make, then judge for yourself, should those layed off from the subsidary company be called back?
Reality street

Honolulu, HI

#7 Aug 6, 2008
Two Sides To Every Story wrote:
While we all sympathize with those losing their jobs, the Friends need to take a realistic look at this situation. Few industries have been as dramatically impacted by the internet as newspaper. If the Advertiser is not able to right-size their operation to keep up with these changes, there's a greater chance of this becoming the one-newspaper town they fear. And anyone employed in the newspaper business should be focusing on learning and applying new skills (internet, video, blogging, etc.) if they want to remain employed in the years to come. That's not a Gannett-specific decision; that's reality.
Seems to me that the employees enthusiastically embraced learning and applying new skills like video and blogs, and the company turned around and stabbed them in the back by demanding pay cuts despite making lots of money. What's wrong with this picture? Don't blame the industry, the workers, and the economy for exploitation and predatory business practices.
Hang em high

Honolulu, HI

#8 Aug 6, 2008
A union rank and file Advertiser worker makes over $1200 per week,+ mileage,+ health,+ dental,+ retirement,+ equipment.

http://newsguild.org/scales/index.php...
Herb

Honolulu, HI

#9 Aug 6, 2008
And I'm sure they earn it. What's your point?
Keep trying

Honolulu, HI

#10 Aug 6, 2008
Hang em high wrote:
A union rank and file Advertiser worker makes over $1200 per week,+ mileage,+ health,+ dental,+ retirement,+ equipment.
http://newsguild.org/scales/index.php...
Oh Mark, don't you have any work to do?
Two Sides To Every Story

Wailuku, HI

#11 Aug 6, 2008
Reality street wrote:
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Seems to me that the employees enthusiastically embraced learning and applying new skills like video and blogs, and the company turned around and stabbed them in the back by demanding pay cuts despite making lots of money. What's wrong with this picture? Don't blame the industry, the workers, and the economy for exploitation and predatory business practices.
What pay cuts? My understanding was they're offering smaller raises, not actual salary cuts.
Reality street

Honolulu, HI

#12 Aug 6, 2008
Two Sides To Every Story wrote:
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What pay cuts? My understanding was they're offering smaller raises, not actual salary cuts.
My understanding is that the token raises didn't even come close to keeping up with inflation. This and the higher medical co-payments demanded by the company would amount to a de facto pay cut. Stop trying to spin it. You're not fooling anyone, and these games really piss people off. Try being honest with your workforce and the community. Right now you are only fooling yourselves.
Two Sides to Every Story

Honolulu, HI

#13 Aug 6, 2008
Reality street wrote:
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My understanding is that the token raises didn't even come close to keeping up with inflation. This and the higher medical co-payments demanded by the company would amount to a de facto pay cut. Stop trying to spin it. You're not fooling anyone, and these games really **** people off. Try being honest with your workforce and the community. Right now you are only fooling yourselves.
I don't work for the Advertiser. I'd just like to see the rhetoric stop and hear some actual facts. Are the medical co-payments higher than industry standards? I believe the law allows for 1.5% of an employee's monthly gross income. What are they asking for? Thank you.
Mark Platte

Honolulu, HI

#14 Aug 6, 2008
OK you goldbricks! All of you back to work!
Retail Supporter

Honolulu, HI

#15 Aug 6, 2008
You know, with so much managers walking around that building and not knowing what they are doing, why not lay-off those people? Figure the place would be more productive with out Managers "playing" like they know what they doing instead of laying off hard workers that make that company profitable.

Last time I remembered, they bought out some people to retire early and haven't replace them with workers. What I hear are more Manager from the mainland caring about how much more money we can suck from Hawaii's People.
21 Jump Street

Mililani, HI

#16 Aug 6, 2008
Reality street wrote:
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My understanding is that the token raises didn't even come close to keeping up with inflation. This and the higher medical co-payments demanded by the company would amount to a de facto pay cut. Stop trying to spin it. You're not fooling anyone, and these games really **** people off. Try being honest with your workforce and the community. Right now you are only fooling yourselves.
Raises to keep up with inflation are not incumbent on the employer. Especially in these difficult financial times. If you don't like it, there's the door. Force it and they'll layoff folks.
Corporate suckups disgust

Kamuela, HI

#17 Aug 6, 2008
21 Jump Street wrote:
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Raises to keep up with inflation are not incumbent on the employer. Especially in these difficult financial times. If you don't like it, there's the door. Force it and they'll layoff folks.
They're already laying off folks and they haven't even settled a contract with the paltry raises they initially offered. Why should anyone trust them now? No, the employer doesn't have to keep up with inflation. But it's unrealistic to cut down the workforce and expect everyone to work harder for a dishonest company that treats people so badly. Yeah, there's the door, and plenty of good people have already walked out without looking back. Think the company or the community is better off?
Corporate suckups disgust

Kamuela, HI

#18 Aug 6, 2008
Two Sides to Every Story wrote:
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I don't work for the Advertiser. I'd just like to see the rhetoric stop and hear some actual facts. Are the medical co-payments higher than industry standards? I believe the law allows for 1.5% of an employee's monthly gross income. What are they asking for? Thank you.
I think Mark Platte's number is in the book. Why don't you call him up right now and ask him to explain. I'm sure he'll be thrilled to hear from you.
Da Man

Kamuela, HI

#19 Aug 6, 2008
Time to clean house wrote:
Platte is a brown-nosed jerk who should have been fired a long time ago. Deport him back to LA, where lying and grasping for power and money is more acceptable.
You forgot "incompetent."
Mahu

Kapaa, HI

#20 Aug 6, 2008
Nina Wu forgot to add they descriptor, "Political opportunists looking for votes"

Friends of the Advertiser include 21 concerned citizens, many of them labor activists and education board members.

They include Port, former state Sen. Randy Iwase, Amy Agbayani, Darrow Aiona, Nancy Aleck, Byron W. Bender, Tom Brislin, Charlene Cuaresma, Carolyn Golojuch, Michael Golojuch, John Grove, Edward Hasegawa, Faye Kennedy, Jean King, Joy Kobashigawa Lewis, Ah Quon McElrath, Josette Rosof, Lou Rosof, James Shon, Tracy Takano and John Witeck.

Where were these "friends" when other union members from other industries were being cut from the labor force?

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