Proposed rules could shrink Lake Erie...

Proposed rules could shrink Lake Erie | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 128 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jun 6, 2011, titled Proposed rules could shrink Lake Erie | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

FirstEnergy's Bay Shore power plant in Oregon, near Toledo, uses vast quantities of water from Lake Erie's Maumee Bay to cool its generators.

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Jake

Dublin, OH

#1 Jun 6, 2011
The article states, "FirstEnergy's Eastlake and Bay Shore power plants drew more than 1.3 billion gallons a day in 2009 to help cool generators." This is incomplete and misleading. Most of that water (that condenses steam, not cools the generators) is returned back to the lake. Therefore, its use has minimal impact on "Shrinking the Lake". The reporter has covered energy issues for years; he should know better than printing half the facts.
Taxed_Out

Toledo, OH

#3 Jun 6, 2011
Jake wrote:
The article states, "FirstEnergy's Eastlake and Bay Shore power plants drew more than 1.3 billion gallons a day in 2009 to help cool generators." This is incomplete and misleading. Most of that water (that condenses steam, not cools the generators) is returned back to the lake. Therefore, its use has minimal impact on "Shrinking the Lake". The reporter has covered energy issues for years; he should know better than printing half the facts.
Of course he knows better.....but then he couldn't hype a non-story and get his article printed. BS sells papers, especially scary BS.
DrC Ohio

Columbus, OH

#4 Jun 6, 2011
Grendell is a do-nothing blow hard. Yo caveman, maybe you ought to look at more sustainable job industries-we live in the 21st century not the 20th, moron. Why am I not surprised that Ohio is proposing regs that are weaker than any other GL state. The cavemen legislature see Lake Erie as something to be pilfered instead of protected.

Given Lake Erie is the shallowest and most productive great lake we need to be extremely careful of what we do. The Bay Shore power plant is an exploding time bomb. It kills millions of fish and other aquatic life each year.
rls

Columbus, OH

#5 Jun 6, 2011
This is nothing but pure greed. Our country needs to put a stop to this madness. The government is letting the power companies do whay ever they want to make a proffit and a large one at that. I have been watching as they are stripping a mountain down in southeren KY. This ihas been going on for several years and isn't the only one they are removing. This is done instead of mining. The lsnd will never be the same and will never be useful for anything.
Lucy

Westerville, OH

#6 Jun 6, 2011
Big business...leave the lake alone!
rls

Columbus, OH

#7 Jun 6, 2011
Jake wrote:
The article states, "FirstEnergy's Eastlake and Bay Shore power plants drew more than 1.3 billion gallons a day in 2009 to help cool generators." This is incomplete and misleading. Most of that water (that condenses steam, not cools the generators) is returned back to the lake. Therefore, its use has minimal impact on "Shrinking the Lake". The reporter has covered energy issues for years; he should know better than printing half the facts.
When the water condenses and makes steam it goes into the air and not in the water. The cooling towers are releasing the steam from cooling the generating plants nor the generators. Either way they are wasting alot of water when they could use wind power and solar power but they choose to use coal so they can polute the air.
Science

Grove City, OH

#8 Jun 6, 2011
Why do our lawmakers hate the environment so much?

Unpolluted freshwater is hard to come by. Using it often ends up it getting polluted or it ending up in the ocean. Will we ever stop this madness?
Ohioan

Grove City, OH

#9 Jun 6, 2011
The govenor doesn't give a damn about anything except making big money for his rich buddies does he?
Nancy

Defiance, OH

#10 Jun 6, 2011
Jake wrote:
The article states, "FirstEnergy's Eastlake and Bay Shore power plants drew more than 1.3 billion gallons a day in 2009 to help cool generators." This is incomplete and misleading. Most of that water (that condenses steam, not cools the generators) is returned back to the lake. Therefore, its use has minimal impact on "Shrinking the Lake". The reporter has covered energy issues for years; he should know better than printing half the facts.
Would you drink a glass of water directly from the water that FirstEnergy is returning to the Lake? Would you give your child a glass of this same water?
Eyes open

Westerville, OH

#11 Jun 6, 2011
the truth wrote:
Drain it and use it there is a ting called rain and snow melting from (BS global warming) that will fill it.
I bet your going to miss that creep Glen Beck and all the lies you believe when he opens his stupid mouth. I can tell by the way you talk on here you are a big fan. Aww what a pitty. You won't be getting any more quotes the that sicko! By the way, aren't you late for your ralley!
Eyes open

Westerville, OH

#12 Jun 6, 2011
Science wrote:
Why do our lawmakers hate the environment so much?
Unpolluted freshwater is hard to come by. Using it often ends up it getting polluted or it ending up in the ocean. Will we ever stop this madness?
It won't as long as those greedy republicans are in office. All they care about is making the rich richer! They can care less if they ruin the enviroment for future generations!
Lake Erie

Dublin, OH

#13 Jun 6, 2011
This just in. Kasich to sell Lake Erie to give tax breaks to people making more than $250,000. They will then use the tax savings to create jobs.
Mick

Dublin, OH

#14 Jun 6, 2011
rls wrote:
<quoted text>When the water condenses and makes steam it goes into the air and not in the water. The cooling towers are releasing the steam from cooling the generating plants nor the generators. Either way they are wasting alot of water when they could use wind power and solar power but they choose to use coal so they can polute the air.
There are no cooling towers at this plant. The cooling system is what is called "once through". The water from the lake does not make steam that goes int the air; it is returned to the lake after it condenses the steam from the turbines, albeit at a higher temperature.
Milton

Toledo, OH

#15 Jun 6, 2011
Lake Erie wrote:
This just in. Kasich to sell Lake Erie to give tax breaks to people making more than $250,000. They will then use the tax savings to create jobs.
All the unemployed democrats posting on this thread would love to shut down all the companies in Ohio, then blame Kasich and the Republicans for high unemployment. Our dumbed down educational system is working!
ouchfactor

Columbus, OH

#16 Jun 6, 2011
Of all the disturbing news items the past few days, this one is most disturbing (other than the part about Tress). That our leaders would sell us out like this is truly disgusting. That they would ignore the warning signs that have been posted is alarming. And the best that the sponsor can say is to the effect, "well they can really warn us once the situation has truly gone south." More rape, pillaging and plundering in the name of business. Rather than treat God's gift of the Great Lakes as it should be treated, with respect, appreciation and reverence, we trash it for our greedy business friends. Go figure.
Jake

Dublin, OH

#17 Jun 6, 2011
Nancy wrote:
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Would you drink a glass of water directly from the water that FirstEnergy is returning to the Lake? Would you give your child a glass of this same water?
I would not, but then too, I would not drink water directly from Antrum Park lake, and there are not industries on that body of water.
ouchfactor

Columbus, OH

#18 Jun 6, 2011
Lake Erie wrote:
This just in. Kasich to sell Lake Erie to give tax breaks to people making more than $250,000. They will then use the tax savings to create jobs.
To Lake Erie, thanks for having a great sense of humor. Unfortunately, Kasich might see yours and be motivated to follow suit.
GOPLIFER

Dublin, OH

#19 Jun 6, 2011
Milton wrote:
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All the unemployed democrats posting on this thread would love to shut down all the companies in Ohio, then blame Kasich and the Republicans for high unemployment. Our dumbed down educational system is working!
I think selling the lake is a great idea. Like John Kasich says, "if you sell your cow, think about how much money you will have to buy milk"
nmetro

Loveland, CO

#20 Jun 6, 2011
With the Kasich Administration, and Congress, lessening the role of the EPA and environmental regulations, the fate of Lake Erie may be moot. If they get their way, Lake Erie will return to the cesspool it was in 1972. And the Cuyahoga may catch fire again. What the state legislature calls progress and attracting business, the rest of Ohio will pay with more fouled rivers, streams and lakes. And how will that attract, or have people stay, in Ohio?
Washed Up

Akron, OH

#21 Jun 6, 2011
I remember in the early 70's when Lake Erie was a "dead" lake. Beaches were closed, you could see human waste washing up on shore. Government regulations helped clean the lakes up. After reading this article, I see deja vu all over again.

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