FirstEnergy closing 6 coal-fired power plants

AKRON, Ohio - FirstEnergy Corp. said Thursday that new environmental regulations led to a decision to shut down six older, coal-fired power plants in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Maryland, affecting more than 500 employees.

[Hippy on Call]

When Obama was running for presidency he vowed to make this happen

see, he didn't lie

allthe unhappy unemployed people we thank you for sacrificing your welfare for our well being

[xxxrayted]

Supply and demand.

When the demand is high, and the supply is low, it increases prices.

When the demand is low, and the supply is high, it decreases prices.

So thank you DumBama for increasing our costs for energy.

[Anonymous of Indy]

The Obama administration was under court order to issue a new rule, after a court threw out an attempt by the Bush administration to exempt power plants from controls for toxic air pollution.

FirstEnergy closing 6 coal-fired power plants

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[Job Killer EPA]

First Energy is the first large utility to announce firm closures of plants affected by the controversial new rules. Enactment of the new rules is a long way down a legal trail.

Bad timing for Obama... these weren't supposed to come out until AFTER the '12 election. Laser-like focus on jobs.

[xxxrayted]

He has more problems than that. Experts are predicting near or over $5.00 per gallon of gasoline by summer. I recently read a poll that stated if the election were held today between DumBama and Romney, Romeny would win by a landslide.

In spite of his advanced education, DumBama isn't too bright. He is securing the vote of his environmentalist buddies while at the same time, pissing everybody else off. Then he's going to solicit Ohio and tell us how much he loves the people of our state. With friends like that, who needs enemies?

[Anonymous of Indy]

xxxrayted wrote:

He has more problems than that. Experts are predicting near or over $5.00 per gallon of gasoline by summer. I recently read a poll that stated if the election were held today between DumBama and Romney, Romeny would win by a landslide.
In spite of his advanced education, DumBama isn't too bright. He is securing the vote of his environmentalist buddies while at the same time, pissing everybody else off. Then he's going to solicit Ohio and tell us how much he loves the people of our state. With friends like that, who needs enemies?

that there is another example & proof of socialism at work as the founding fathers intended with article 1 section 8 where the government is involved in economical matters because the government has an incentive to keeps gas prices high, because it generates more money in taxes.

[xxxrayted]

The founders never intended for the government to be involved with business in any way. They wanted government to govern, and that's it. Sure, they are to be active in the economy, but only the economy from a government point of view.

[Anonymous of Indy]

xxxrayted wrote:

The founders never intended for the government to be involved with business in any way. They wanted government to govern, and that's it. Sure, they are to be active in the economy, but only the economy from a government point of view.

but I understand that too, but they created that enviroment and with taxes, and that is how the government does wealth redistribution too is through taxes but as long as the government plays a role in the economy it falls under Socialism, but we call it American Capitalism, US form of Socialism.

[xxxrayted]

A total misuse of taxation. Taxes were to be collected to make the federal government run, not for punitive measures or to stir or slow down the economy. Collect enough taxes to pay the bills, and that should be the end of government participation. It's a damn shame we let it come down to government providing us with medical care and a retirement plan.

[Anonymous of Indy]

xxxrayted wrote:

A total misuse of taxation. Taxes were to be collected to make the federal government run, not for punitive measures or to stir or slow down the economy. Collect enough taxes to pay the bills, and that should be the end of government participation. It's a damn shame we let it come down to government providing us with medical care and a retirement plan.

I know but collecting taxes goes against true capitalism, thats the big one, capitalist take care of it themselves the way true Capitalism is to function.

[Solarman]

xxxrayted wrote:

A total misuse of taxation. Taxes were to be collected to make the federal government run, not for punitive measures or to stir or slow down the economy. Collect enough taxes to pay the bills, and that should be the end of government participation. It's a damn shame we let it come down to government providing us with medical care and a retirement plan.

Take a look at the 16th amendment to the Constitution. As early as 1860 Congress tried to tax the public, finally around 1864 it went to the Supreme Court and was determined that the Congress or Federal Government didn't have the right to tax this country's citizens. Fast forward to 1913 when the 16th amendment was passed, that allowed Congress to tax the citizens of this country, raise their own salaries, create their own retirement and medical plans and create entitlement programs. So, you want your country back? Let's change or abrogate the 16th amendment, make it necessary to hold a National vote to raise OR lower taxes and give the purse strings back to the voting public. As for what's in store for the closing of the 6 coal fired plants, think California 1999 and 2000 when it deregulated the power market and ENRON stepped in to "deliver" power at their predetermined price by manipulating when the remaining power plants were to be online. The things to look for in the future are "emergency" shutdowns of plants for "repairs," maintenance causing energy rates to climb and brownouts and rolling blackouts.

[Round Paul]

In Hudson - they tax those with Bad Manners!

[xxxrayted]

Solarman wrote:

<quoted text>Take a look at the 16th amendment to the Constitution. As early as 1860 Congress tried to tax the public, finally around 1864 it went to the Supreme Court and was determined that the Congress or Federal Government didn't have the right to tax this country's citizens. Fast forward to 1913 when the 16th amendment was passed, that allowed Congress to tax the citizens of this country, raise their own salaries, create their own retirement and medical plans and create entitlement programs. So, you want your country back? Let's change or abrogate the 16th amendment, make it necessary to hold a National vote to raise OR lower taxes and give the purse strings back to the voting public. As for what's in store for the closing of the 6 coal fired plants, think California 1999 and 2000 when it deregulated the power market and ENRON stepped in to "deliver" power at their predetermined price by manipulating when the remaining power plants were to be online. The things to look for in the future are "emergency" shutdowns of plants for "repairs," maintenance causing energy rates to climb and brownouts and rolling blackouts.

I don't think you will find many conservatives against repealing the 16th. It's been nothing but a troublemaker ever since it's been enacted. Will the public put that on the top of their list of priorities? Not likely. Most don't even understand how the 16th played such an important part in past rulings by the Supreme Court.

[DON W SOUTH]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>but I understand that too, but they created that enviroment and with taxes, and that is how the government does wealth redistribution too is through taxes but as long as the government plays a role in the economy it falls under Socialism, but we call it American Capitalism, US form of Socialism.

The 16th Amendment is the main vehicle from which the progressive/demos employ to re-distribute wealth. In fact, that is about all the fed govt does anymore is "tranfer payments' from one group to another. Bear in mind, the founders never authored a tax on incomes. That came less than a century ago during the early "progressive" years.

[Anonymous of Indy]

DON W SOUTH wrote:

<quoted text> The 16th Amendment is the main vehicle from which the progressive/demos employ to re-distribute wealth. In fact, that is about all the fed govt does anymore is "tranfer payments' from one group to another. Bear in mind, the founders never authored a tax on incomes. That came less than a century ago during the early "progressive" years.

Right, Progressive Republicans where the one behind the 16th amemdment & change at the time, both Democrats & Republicans have used the vehicle to redistribute the wealth of this county through the US Tax Code which is being debated today. Totally ture & I agree when you say "In fact, that is about all the fed govt does anymore is "tranfer payments' from one group to another" basically act as the referee.

[Homeless Wino Pete]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>Right, Progressive Republicans where the one behind the 16th amemdment & change at the time, both Democrats & Republicans have used the vehicle to redistribute the wealth of this county through the US Tax Code which is being debated today. Totally ture & I agree when you say "In fact, that is about all the fed govt does anymore is "tranfer payments' from one group to another" basically act as the referee.

I can't wait until you cry like a baby when the grid collapses this summer and you can't post your little missives. Totally ture. No one cares what you think when the lights go out.

No one cares now.

[Anonymous of Indy]

Homeless Wino Pete wrote:

<quoted text>
I can't wait until you cry like a baby when the grid collapses this summer and you can't post your little missives. Totally ture. No one cares what you think when the lights go out.
No one cares now.

I will be just fine.

[DON W SOUTH]

Homeless Wino Pete wrote:

<quoted text>
I can't wait until you cry like a baby when the grid collapses this summer and you can't post your little missives. Totally ture. No one cares what you think when the lights go out.
No one cares now.

Well now, this greedy selfish republican has a generator for back up, so I may still be on here continuing to expose those who call themselves liberals, but are anything but.
After the big O was coronated, I got a little apprehensive about the grids, so I looked at my big republican bank account & decided to take the plunge.

[StarryStarry]

DON W SOUTH wrote:

<quoted text>Well now, this greedy selfish republican has a generator for back up, so I may still be on here continuing to expose those who call themselves liberals, but are anything but.
After the big O was coronated, I got a little apprehensive about the grids, so I looked at my big republican bank account & decided to take the plunge.

Surely you mean your big "fat" republican bank account. Libs call everyone/everything fat. Limited vocabulary, etc.

[DON W SOUTH]

StarryStarry wrote:

<quoted text>
Surely you mean your big "fat" republican bank account. Libs call everyone/everything fat. Limited vocabulary, etc.

YOU GOT THAT "RIGHT!"