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St. Paul / Delegation pitches Ford incentive

There are 35 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Aug 24, 2010, titled St. Paul / Delegation pitches Ford incentive. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

They already said please. Then pretty please. Now this, they hope, is the cherry on top.

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JohnQ

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Aug 25, 2010
90 million in incentives to keep a plant open for 750 jobs? For what? Just so Pawlenty can hopefully say he saved the Ford plant? I am all for keeping jobs, but at what cost? Why not split up the 90 million among the 750 workers? Everyone would probably be happier, other than Pawlenty who wouldn't be able to claim a victory on this one.
Always Amused

Burnsville, MN

#2 Aug 25, 2010
Governor Pawlenty! Mayor Coleman! If I don't have to pay state income tax or any propery tax I promise I'll stay in St. Paul! I promise! And I'll mow my own lawn as a sign of good faith!
union buster

Chippewa Falls, WI

#3 Aug 25, 2010
And the union has to be in on the meeting, why?
So they can screw it up?

As far as the 750 jobs, my guess is the plan is to revamp the plant to support more workers in the future.
Zestar Corporation

Plymouth, MI

#4 Aug 25, 2010
Why are taxpayer incentives required when billions are available for recovery for Ford and other auomakers?

Outsourcing services to suppliers have resulted in a multibillion dollar recovery opportunity for the auto industry. The auto industry, including dealers and consumers have an opportunity to recover billions from non-government sources.

It would be fantastic if Ford took the leadership position on this issue.
Refer to links (press releases) for details.

http://www.mmdnewswire.com/auto-industry-6716...

http://www.mmdnewswire.com/vehicle-paint-qual...

http://www.forewordreviews.com/reviews/making...
tww

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Aug 25, 2010
Bye-Bye Ford! Lets make the site a big park with lots of trees and birds and squirrels. All the unemployed Ford workers will have a nice place to hang out.

Since: Apr 08

Twin Cities

#6 Aug 25, 2010
JohnQ wrote:
90 million in incentives to keep a plant open for 750 jobs? For what? Just so Pawlenty can hopefully say he saved the Ford plant? I am all for keeping jobs, but at what cost? Why not split up the 90 million among the 750 workers? Everyone would probably be happier, other than Pawlenty who wouldn't be able to claim a victory on this one.
You haven't considered the taxes that Ford pays while the factory is there and running, have you?
Business Owner

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Aug 25, 2010
Ford is St. Paul's largest single property tax payer. Should be fun for the rest of us St. Paulites to pick up the slack.
Good luck

Detroit, MI

#8 Aug 25, 2010
With idiots like Bachmann going on CNBC and more or less slamming the US auto industry and saying she does not care if it goes out of business, good luck. Perhaps if she kept her big mouth shut, Ford would have reconsidered.
carZ- jobZ

Saint Martin, MN

#9 Aug 25, 2010
Zzzzzzzzzzzz.... means the citizens will pay your taxes if you stay and let some of them work for you so they can get rich...can you say?: VOODOO ECONOMICS...how about we get trickled on some more and see how well that suits our economic future....works for the uber rch...must be a good idea...heh.heh.....how stupid do they think we are?
The agents of the corporate rich (dem or republican) have driven the bus off the cliff and more of the same driving will get us the same results!
Common

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Aug 25, 2010
Question:

Auto industry execs got blasted for taking thier private jets to meetings in Washington D.C., will Government get equally blasted for taking the State's plane or did they drive to the meeting in Dearborn?
WWT

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Aug 25, 2010
tww wrote:
Bye-Bye Ford! Lets make the site a big park with lots of trees and birds and squirrels. All the unemployed Ford workers will have a nice place to hang out.
St. Paul can't operate the parks we have as it is. I hope ford does not become a big park. There is a park right across the river that Minneapolis residents pay for, don't get suckered by the left.
St Paul Resident

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Aug 25, 2010
WWT wrote:
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St. Paul can't operate the parks we have as it is. I hope ford does not become a big park. There is a park right across the river that Minneapolis residents pay for, don't get suckered by the left.
The sarcasm escapes you....
JAdams

Hopkins, MN

#13 Aug 25, 2010
How about giving the the few taxpayers that are left in St Paul a break.
g-del

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Aug 25, 2010
ill say one thing the governor has a lot of guts going to bat for the same group of folks that wont support him and have also destroyed the American manufacturing industry with their demands -- he'd be smart to let the socialist party lead the way with this because if it fails the unions will put all the blame on him--- where has the leadership from the state legislators been on this issue--
dave

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Aug 25, 2010
ZenBirdist wrote:
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You haven't considered the taxes that Ford pays while the factory is there and running, have you?
That 90 million incentive was cited as local property and corporate income taxes. They will only be paying school tax. My question is: What is the term of that savings incentive? They save $90 million yearly?...Assuming the workers make an average of $50k/yr, the government could pay their salaries for ~3 years with that $90MM.
Bobertx

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Aug 25, 2010
More corporate welfare to the cronies, from the cronies.
Watch now as our property taxes and/or fees go up.
Schae

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Aug 25, 2010
Common wrote:
Question:
Auto industry execs got blasted for taking thier private jets to meetings in Washington D.C., will Government get equally blasted for taking the State's plane or did they drive to the meeting in Dearborn?
Ford did not TAKE ANY TAXPAYER BAILOUT MONEY like GM and Chrysler did.

Two, how about getting rid of Coleman and Pawlenty!
Kathy

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Aug 25, 2010
Here we go again. This is the third time we have to pay Ford to "keep the plant open". What a scam.

With that kind of money we could have created a new business that didn't threaten to close every three years.

Plus Ford keeps lowering wages and we keep giving them money. What a deal.
St Paul Resident

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Aug 25, 2010
I never agree with government but this time they may have it right. If Ford leaves someone will still be paying the property tax but the corporate income tax will be gone as will 750 jobs. That means lower personal tax income, higher unemployment benefits, home defaults, hits to businesses in the area, etc. etc.

If we make this deal we lose the property tax but keep the benefits of the jobs. It probably makes sense.
Taxmemore

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Aug 25, 2010
I wonder if Coleman will bring up that Toyota is the "official automotive partner" of St. Paul and Minneapolis while he's in Detroit? <Ding Ding>

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