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Ford plans to hire 7,000 US workers by 2012

There are 53 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jan 10, 2011, titled Ford plans to hire 7,000 US workers by 2012. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Ford Motor Co. says it will add more than 7,000 workers in the U.S. over the next two years, including 750 engineers with expertise in batteries and other advanced technology, as it begins producing several new vehicles.

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“Live Life with GUSTO!!!”

Since: Jun 08

St. Paul, MN

#42 Jan 17, 2011
Dr Evil wrote:
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Its been done. Its called a VW TDI. The EPA keeps adding exhaust filters and additives to it so its not worth it any more.
I have a diesel car (I average 47 mpg)but it seems the EPA and American market does not want them.
Dr. Evil;
When I owned a VW Rabbit my little Diesel [1.8ltr] gave me 52mpg on the road in the summer with 46-48mpg in the winter! I had a '4-speed', not 5-speed,[stick] transmission and a 16 gallon fuel tank. I could leave Dinkytown and 13 hours later be in Toledo, Ohio before even thinking about fueling up for prudence reasons.

With one adult passenger and luggage I even made it to the Cleveland Airport[near where my family lived] before I decided to tank up! One tank [16 gal] of Diesel fuel from Minneapolis to Cleveland, Ohio with fuel to spare to reach DT-Public Square in Cleveland!!! Seven hundred fifty eight miles (758) on one tank of Diesel fuel doing freeway, averaging 70mph, speed all the way.

Here's the clincher, when the state had those vehicle inspection stations and everyone had to be inspected yearly, the first time my Rabbit was inspected, it was inspected like a regular car. Funny thing was the Rabbit passed regular gasoline emission standards before the inspector asked if the Rabbit was a Diesel! One more thing, the inspection took place in the wintertime when the diesel fuel was wintered blended1

You can't tell me that Diesels aren't clean running if they are basically maintained and use the better refined diesel fuels. The same ethic holds true for medium and large Diesel truck engines.

The EPA and the American automobile market better start thinking Diesel &/or bio-syn* Diesel fuels and vehicles.(*'bio-syn'=biologica l/synthetic) If the original car inventors were using alternative fuels, in the 1890's; if the Japanese and Germans in WW2 were making synthetic petrol; if Third World insurgents can use light to medium armed Diesel fueled vehicles to fight their brush-fire wars; and if the modern-day Europeans can produce vehicles that surpass US-EPA standards and be "autobahn" rated then what is the problem with Detroit? I rest my case.

Just think what would happen if FORD could produce a St.Paul Ranger that could use various alternative green Diesel fuels and be economical and efficient to boot? I would be first in the queue {line} to buy one!

Come on, America and Detroit! Build the vehicles we need and the customers will come buy them!!!
Over a barrel

Delano, MN

#43 Jan 17, 2011
gtVoyageur wrote:
<quoted text>
Dr. Evil;
When I owned a VW Rabbit my little Diesel [1.8ltr] gave me 52mpg on the road in the summer with 46-48mpg in the winter! I had a '4-speed', not 5-speed,[stick] transmission and a 16 gallon fuel tank. I could leave Dinkytown and 13 hours later be in Toledo, Ohio before even thinking about fueling up for prudence reasons.
With one adult passenger and luggage I even made it to the Cleveland Airport[near where my family lived] before I decided to tank up! One tank [16 gal] of Diesel fuel from Minneapolis to Cleveland, Ohio with fuel to spare to reach DT-Public Square in Cleveland!!! Seven hundred fifty eight miles (758) on one tank of Diesel fuel doing freeway, averaging 70mph, speed all the way.
Here's the clincher, when the state had those vehicle inspection stations and everyone had to be inspected yearly, the first time my Rabbit was inspected, it was inspected like a regular car. Funny thing was the Rabbit passed regular gasoline emission standards before the inspector asked if the Rabbit was a Diesel! One more thing, the inspection took place in the wintertime when the diesel fuel was wintered blended1
You can't tell me that Diesels aren't clean running if they are basically maintained and use the better refined diesel fuels. The same ethic holds true for medium and large Diesel truck engines.
The EPA and the American automobile market better start thinking Diesel &/or bio-syn* Diesel fuels and vehicles.(*'bio-syn'=biologica l/synthetic) If the original car inventors were using alternative fuels, in the 1890's; if the Japanese and Germans in WW2 were making synthetic petrol; if Third World insurgents can use light to medium armed Diesel fueled vehicles to fight their brush-fire wars; and if the modern-day Europeans can produce vehicles that surpass US-EPA standards and be "autobahn" rated then what is the problem with Detroit? I rest my case.
Just think what would happen if FORD could produce a St.Paul Ranger that could use various alternative green Diesel fuels and be economical and efficient to boot? I would be first in the queue {line} to buy one!
Come on, America and Detroit! Build the vehicles we need and the customers will come buy them!!!
Seems to me when a barrel of crude is refined you get so much gas and so much diesel. If all cars and trucks ran on diesel there would be no use for gas.
LETS GO WILD

United States

#44 Jan 17, 2011
The Ford Ranger must be banned-it pollutes.
Jimbo

Saint Paul, MN

#45 Jan 17, 2011
Over a barrel wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems to me when a barrel of crude is refined you get so much gas and so much diesel. If all cars and trucks ran on diesel there would be no use for gas.
Just a note, ALL commercial vehicles in Europe are required to be Diesel. If they are Gasoline, they ar taxed heavily. Just Sayin.

“Government breeds Poverty”

Since: Jan 11

Woodbury

#46 Jan 17, 2011
Obama policies are destroying america
wtf

Minneapolis, MN

#47 Jan 17, 2011
Livinn Woodbury wrote:
Obama policies are destroying america
Sorry to inform you, but America has been circling the drain long before Obama even thought about running for the Oval Office.

“Government breeds Poverty”

Since: Jan 11

Woodbury

#48 Jan 17, 2011
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry to inform you, but America has been circling the drain long before Obama even thought about running for the Oval Office.
going from bad to worse deserves credit. I agree.

“Live Life with GUSTO!!!”

Since: Jun 08

St. Paul, MN

#49 Jan 19, 2011
Over a barrel wrote:
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Seems to me when a barrel of crude is refined you get so much gas and so much diesel. If all cars and trucks ran on diesel there would be no use for gas.
Over a barrel;
You have a point but look beyond that proverbial barrel of Big Oil crude! Diesel fuels can come various biological or synthetic sources.

For example, if Willie Nelson can run his tour coach buses on the equivalent to salad oil and market the same around his home state with proven results then what's the problem?
If some high school kids from Ohio can run their personal vehicles on the slightly refined waste greases from the local MacD's and BK's then what's the problem? Why aren't the US petroleum scientific research communities totally committed to discover newer bio-syn fuels from recyclable wastes or byproducts when high school students are proving otherwise?
If the original internal combustion engine or vehicle inventors and pioneers have access to today's present high tech research methods where would the predominance on crude petroleum rank? Remember the original vehicle motors ran on peanut or ethanol grade fuels!
And, last but not least, why can't the United States take the lead in developing these newer alternative bio-syn fuels and then proving their feasibility, availability, and environmental economies of use?

If a useless[at one time]waste rock called taconite saved the MN Iron Ranges and now the waste tailings of the old MN iron ore mining operations have been shown as another recyclable [and processable] iron ore/pellet resource then why can't the same can-do spirit be applied to alternative fuels?

Isn't time we stop thinking about dependence on foreign petroleum and development our own energy sources? Isn't that the American Way?
gtVoyageur

“Live Life with GUSTO!!!”

Since: Jun 08

St. Paul, MN

#50 Jan 19, 2011
Livinn Woodbury wrote:
Obama policies are destroying america
Wrong thread to comment!!! Did you ever stop to think about your political philosophies or ideological contributions that are possibly destroying the American way of life? What have you done to build up this country?

Sorry chum, enough said on this thread. It's time to help our fellow citizens and country instead of being negative all the time.
gtV
Over a barrel

Minneapolis, MN

#51 Jan 19, 2011
gtVoyageur wrote:
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Over a barrel;
You have a point but look beyond that proverbial barrel of Big Oil crude! Diesel fuels can come various biological or synthetic sources.
For example, if Willie Nelson can run his tour coach buses on the equivalent to salad oil and market the same around his home state with proven results then what's the problem?
If some high school kids from Ohio can run their personal vehicles on the slightly refined waste greases from the local MacD's and BK's then what's the problem? Why aren't the US petroleum scientific research communities totally committed to discover newer bio-syn fuels from recyclable wastes or byproducts when high school students are proving otherwise?
If the original internal combustion engine or vehicle inventors and pioneers have access to today's present high tech research methods where would the predominance on crude petroleum rank? Remember the original vehicle motors ran on peanut or ethanol grade fuels!
And, last but not least, why can't the United States take the lead in developing these newer alternative bio-syn fuels and then proving their feasibility, availability, and environmental economies of use?
If a useless[at one time]waste rock called taconite saved the MN Iron Ranges and now the waste tailings of the old MN iron ore mining operations have been shown as another recyclable [and processable] iron ore/pellet resource then why can't the same can-do spirit be applied to alternative fuels?
Isn't time we stop thinking about dependence on foreign petroleum and development our own energy sources? Isn't that the American Way?
gtVoyageur
Hey gt,

I will NEVER argue against developing fuels from a USA source. The USA developed Ethonol and it is of limited value. Many experts argue Ethonol has no value in that it takes more energy to create the product than the energy it produces. However I have relatives who grow corn and they are making a lot of money because of Ethonol, this is good for the local economy.

Said that, crude oil is used so much today any transission to a different fuel will take decades. In the mean time we are over a barrel and the pending high price of gas WILL reduce it's usage. AND slow the economy, just what we need, thanks OPEC.
Jimbo

Saint Paul, MN

#52 Jan 19, 2011
gtVoyageur wrote:
<quoted text>
Over a barrel;
You have a point but look beyond that proverbial barrel of Big Oil crude! Diesel fuels can come various biological or synthetic sources.
For example, if Willie Nelson can run his tour coach buses on the equivalent to salad oil and market the same around his home state with proven results then what's the problem?
If some high school kids from Ohio can run their personal vehicles on the slightly refined waste greases from the local MacD's and BK's then what's the problem? Why aren't the US petroleum scientific research communities totally committed to discover newer bio-syn fuels from recyclable wastes or byproducts when high school students are proving otherwise?
If the original internal combustion engine or vehicle inventors and pioneers have access to today's present high tech research methods where would the predominance on crude petroleum rank? Remember the original vehicle motors ran on peanut or ethanol grade fuels!
And, last but not least, why can't the United States take the lead in developing these newer alternative bio-syn fuels and then proving their feasibility, availability, and environmental economies of use?
If a useless[at one time]waste rock called taconite saved the MN Iron Ranges and now the waste tailings of the old MN iron ore mining operations have been shown as another recyclable [and processable] iron ore/pellet resource then why can't the same can-do spirit be applied to alternative fuels?
Isn't time we stop thinking about dependence on foreign petroleum and development our own energy sources? Isn't that the American Way?
gtVoyageur
Brilliant again! There are so many different designer blends of the various fuels, taht the refineries can only spend a few days a month refining. We need more refining plants, less blends, no Bio fuels, and Drill Baby Drill. Otherwise, learn Mandarin. You will need it!
ThomasA

Ashville, AL

#53 Jan 21, 2011
Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text> Thomas, have you ever been in the plant? Do you know anything about what you spout? Yes the building is 80 years old, but the insides are fine. The assembly line can be easily tweak to assemble anything they desire. They used to make US Army Tanks there, the F-150-350 was made there, the Crown Vic was made there. So then, is the work force inefficient? No, the workforce at TCAP is on of the most efficient in the system. Union issues effect everyone everywhere. Simply put, unions are one of the biggest restrictions to growth and efficiency. This plant will not close in the near future as Ford knows that it is their best plant.
If those restrictions cannot be compromised or overcome,moving South is not out of the question if they can get someone to pay for sitework,buildings,equipment,a nd offer ten year tax exemptions. Southern states will spend and have spent untold sums to get new industry especially the auto industry. When VW planned a new plant, Alabama and Tennessee went into a bidding war on incentives,same as they did with Hundai, Toyota, Honda,and Benz.
ThomasA

Ashville, AL

#54 Jan 21, 2011
Figures released in the news today that Alabama built 711,283 vehicles in 2010. Hundai made 300,500, Honda made 272,082, Benz made 138,701. Not bad!!! The Toyota plant in Huntsville only make engines so they didn't figure in. Anyone that wants good climate,good labor, and a out- of- sight incentive plan for a factory,"Come On Down"!

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