Obama's nuclear power push faces obstacle: Waste

President Obama's announcement Tuesday of loan guarantees for nuclear power plants may encourage new construction, but a problem still remains that has plagued atomic energy for decades: what to do with nuclear waste?

[failure obama]

Georgia has had nuclear power plants for decades. They have been reliable and trouble free. Their only drawback is the huge construction costs. These two new reactors will be expensive as well and consumers will face rate increases long before the construction is complete. These plants were in planning during the Bush administration and will not be operational until 2017.

[Mr_Bill]

failure obama wrote:

Georgia has had nuclear power plants for decades. They have been reliable and trouble free. Their only drawback is the huge construction costs. These two new reactors will be expensive as well and consumers will face rate increases long before the construction is complete. These plants were in planning during the Bush administration and will not be operational until 2017.

The other obsticle is that they are too expensive to build and opoerate without heavy government subsidy.

The Ayn Randists are deathly quiet on this issue.

[Lance Winslow]

failure obama wrote:

Georgia has had nuclear power plants for decades. They have been reliable and trouble free. Their only drawback is the huge construction costs. These two new reactors will be expensive as well and consumers will face rate increases long before the construction is complete. These plants were in planning during the Bush administration and will not be operational until 2017.

Perhaps Georgia will step in where Nevada opted out?

[StellarKnight]

Let the proponents of it allow it to be buried under their own houses where their children sleep.

See how longevity that gets.

[nobleagl]

Send the waste to GITMO and tell the detainees they can make all the WMD's they can handle.

[Been there_done that]

I lived in Pennsylvania at the time of the Three Mile Island accident. The media and anti-nuke crowd really made a big deal about that. The public Safety officials made a big deal about it as well, but that was their job. Evacuationg the area like they did was no different then some of the evacuations we have had recently when trains have derailed.
The truth is that these facilities were safe then, and are even safer now. Three Mile Island had a minor meltdown. Safety procedures were in place that allowed nothing to leak into the atmosphere.
Safety is not an issue here and there have been many Nuclear Power plants that have ran for many years with no problems at all.
I think for the Western Illinois/Eastern, Iowa area, we have a smarter choice. We have a big old river which can provide cheap, claean power for everybody.

[toxic obama]

StellarKnight wrote:

Let the proponents of it allow it to be buried under their own houses where their children sleep.
See how longevity that gets.

Local zoning regulations prevent that. That's why they invented Yucca Mountain. However, Philadelphia is already so heavily polluted they probably wouldn't notice a little more toxic waste.

[BDV]

Mr_Bill wrote:

The other obsticle is that they are too expensive to build and opoerate without heavy government subsidy.

10 billion dollars? For an investment that could produce guaranteed 5-10% returns for 40-50-60 years?

The Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village apartment complex in Manhattan sold for 5.4 billion at one time.

No, it is only too expensive to build if some low level douchebag bureaucrat decides to block the project, when the investors have ZILCH to show for a 1-3-9 billion US$ investment. Which given the current status of local, state, and federal regulation state is an unfortunate CERTAINTY. We live in the "whatever the meaning of is, is" country, and regulations say whatever the taxfeeder in question says they say. So there, without government backing these projects are simply not possible in USofA. Maybe in some other country, or some other time. But we live here and now, and that is that.

[Lou]

What does France do with its nuclear waste?

[koz]

Mr_Bill wrote:

The other obsticle is that they are too expensive to build and opoerate without heavy government subsidy.

There is no operating subsidy. It is just the opposite, nukes pump millions into the federal, state and local governments.

[Lance Winslow]

BDV wrote:

<quoted text>
10 billion dollars? For an investment that could produce guaranteed 5-10% returns for 40-50-60 years?
The Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village apartment complex in Manhattan sold for 5.4 billion at one time.
No, it is only too expensive to build if some low level douchebag bureaucrat decides to block the project, when the investors have ZILCH to show for a 1-3-9 billion US$ investment. Which given the current status of local, state, and federal regulation state is an unfortunate CERTAINTY. We live in the "whatever the meaning of is, is" country, and regulations say whatever the taxfeeder in question says they say. So there, without government backing these projects are simply not possible in USofA. Maybe in some other country, or some other time. But we live here and now, and that is that.

You can be certain that this will never be funded by congress; the GOP blocks EVERYTHING.

[koz]

StellarKnight wrote:

Let the proponents of it allow it to be buried under their own houses where their children sleep.

I have been asking for that for my home for several years. Also some under my driveway to help melt the snow. We wouldn't get as much radiation dose as the folk in Colorado or Wyoming, but it would help counter our radiation dose deficiency. The people in Ramsar, Iran get enough radiation, but few other people do.

[Lance Winslow]

koz wrote:

<quoted text>I have been asking for that for my home for several years. Also some under my driveway to help melt the snow. We wouldn't get as much radiation dose as the folk in Colorado or Wyoming, but it would help counter our radiation dose deficiency. The people in Ramsar, Iran get enough radiation, but few other people do.

How funny that you are so casual about your radiation exposure. Luckily, nobody is who is involved in the decisions to regulate sources and wastes.

[Lance Winslow]

Lou wrote:

What does France do with its nuclear waste?

Same as we do: temporary storage. There is no technology available for long term storage. Yucca Mountain was the best so far, but it failed on hydrology and seismic.

[StellarKnight]

Why the he** do they blanket you with lead apron when getting a dental X ray in the chair and then run the hel* out of the room to push the button?

If your pregnant, oh my do you ever get zapped.

Dental X rays are heineous. They are a money maker and if the dentists doest not know the canals and what is what, he isnt worth his salt by zapping you with radiation.

When Hitler came to power they would have unsuspecting Jewish people come to the counter and zap them with X ray machines hoping in this expieriement to steralize them. Hidden beneath the counter they leaned upon was an X RAY MACHINE on Tilt.

http://petragrail.tripod.com/spear.html

read the book by Trevor Ravenscroft.

[StellarKnight]

Nowadays. They wish to to scan your whole body , or that of your wife or child with scanners at airports.

ROME.

[StellarKnight]

toxic obama wrote:

<quoted text>Local zoning regulations prevent that. That's why they invented Yucca Mountain. However, Philadelphia is already so heavily polluted they probably wouldn't notice a little more toxic waste.

lol remember the alert level orange or so. when everyone was advised to buy duct tape and set up a room where they could have safe haven in?

rofl.

Me ate so much Bridgeville Scrapple, they might as well put a bullseye on my house.

[StellarKnight]

These color alert levels they presented were from star trek written by an imaginary Texan. lol

People who incarnate in Texas need alot of space.

[StellarKnight]

Oh no...another movie. The running man.

Its Zeil! Its Zeil! lol and the diamonds State.

Here is Dustin Hoffman in fear that his brother will be delivered in a rolled up carpet and running about in central park lol.

and what did they do to him? They had a dentist drill right through his front tooth lol.

Now, they torture arabs in order to forward Jerry Falwells fundamentalist dispensationalist agenda repleat with scriptural passages on thier rifles in Afganistan.

ROME!

[StellarKnight]

Nice psyop as they say.'

Me bro was head pilot for the president of the world counsel of jews broffman in west chester county.

as for diamonds or the diamond state. this is their world of imaginations.