Nuclear bill advances in state House

The Vermont House has voted to advance a bill that would require the Vermont Yankee nuclear plant's owners to pay more than $350 million into a fund for dismantling the plant when it shuts down. Full Story
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Atom Ant

Little Rock, AR

#1 Mar 27, 2009
Approx. Rise in electric bill without VY-$30.00/mo.
Approx. ratepayers in Vermont- 100,000
Monthly cost total-$3,000,000
Yearly additional cost for electric-$30,000,000
20 years without VY -$600,000,000
Nuclear plant owners are obligated to pay for the site clean-up. If this bill passes and Entergy closes the plant, ratepayers may as well pay for the site clean-up.
Anti Mike

Lisbon Falls, ME

#2 Mar 27, 2009
Atom Ant wrote:
Approx. Rise in electric bill without VY-$30.00/mo.
Approx. ratepayers in Vermont- 100,000
Monthly cost total-$3,000,000
Yearly additional cost for electric-$30,000,000
20 years without VY -$600,000,000
Nuclear plant owners are obligated to pay for the site clean-up. If this bill passes and Entergy closes the plant, ratepayers may as well pay for the site clean-up.
Math error:
Based on your initial cost increas the yearly additional cost would be $36,000.000 and the 20 cost would be 720,000,000.

These costs would be for the replacement power not the dsimantling of VY. That cost would be paid by Entergy after the 60 year safestore time. Entergy by Federal Law has three paths it could take. 1) decon the site - green earth, 2) safe store [which they have approval to do], or three intumb - i.e., cover and leave the plant there for ever.
Brattleboro

Lisbon Falls, ME

#3 Mar 27, 2009
Your estimates seam low - it will cost quite a bit more for the replacement elect. power and we will lose more high paying jobs
MRB

Newfane, VT

#4 Mar 27, 2009
Brattleboro wrote:
Your estimates seam low - it will cost quite a bit more for the replacement elect. power and we will lose more high paying jobs
Take into consideration the jobs that dismantling and decontamination will produce. Alternative power will bring a lot more LOCAL jobs. Already locally there are businesses who are using solar and wind power. Replacing VY power is not out of reach, even though VY supporters would like us to believe they are indispensable.

Most of the power produced by VY can be replaced just by energy efficiency.
Ben

Newfane, VT

#5 Mar 27, 2009
Why in the world would anyone NOT want this corporation to pay the costs associated once the plant has closed? Why should this site NOT be decontaminated?
mike mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#6 Mar 27, 2009
Yep, the ideology that opened up questioning the existence of VY has placed so much in question, that staved money from plant operations and create the operational events and widespread hard feelings, this thing that stole so much opportunity from the nation and the nuclear industry.
Atom Ant

Little Rock, AR

#7 Mar 27, 2009
"That is a reasonable thing for Vermont taxpayers to ask of a company that has benefited from its presence here,"

Has your state not benefitted from the company being here Mr. Klein?
Ken S

Newfane, VT

#8 Mar 27, 2009
MRB wrote:
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Take into consideration the jobs that dismantling and decontamination will produce. Alternative power will bring a lot more LOCAL jobs. Already locally there are businesses who are using solar and wind power. Replacing VY power is not out of reach, even though VY supporters would like us to believe they are indispensable.
Most of the power produced by VY can be replaced just by energy efficiency.
I am sure there are many others, but some local businesses that use solar are Green Mountain Power in Westminster & Crest Studios in Townshend. Recently a windmill was installed on a farm in Grafton. At least 4 dairy farms in Vermont (one is the Goodell Farm in Westminster) generate electricity from methane from manure, enough to power about 5,000 homes.

I understand why those associate with VY would want us to believe we have no choice other than nuclear power. I do not understand why any of us would fall for their scare-tactics. We have a great opportunity to bring Vermont to renewable energy, shouldn't we be doing so?
mike mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#9 Mar 27, 2009
MRB wrote:
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Take into consideration the jobs that dismantling and decontamination will produce. Alternative power will bring a lot more LOCAL jobs. Already locally there are businesses who are using solar and wind power. Replacing VY power is not out of reach, even though VY supporters would like us to believe they are indispensable.
Most of the power produced by VY can be replaced just by energy efficiency.
It is just a question of proportionality and scale?
Moving Forward

Topsham, ME

#10 Mar 27, 2009
MRB wrote:
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Take into consideration the jobs that dismantling and decontamination will produce. Alternative power will bring a lot more LOCAL jobs. Already locally there are businesses who are using solar and wind power. Replacing VY power is not out of reach, even though VY supporters would like us to believe they are indispensable.
Most of the power produced by VY can be replaced just by energy efficiency.
Your statement, simply not based on reality. The PSB has made its determanation and GMP has concurred. In addition, the NRC is the government oversight for decommissioning, not the VT State Leglislature. Furthermore, as pointed out by Mike previously, Green Jobs are low wage jobs. However if you could show us that the number of megawatts currently available in your plan is equal, I would be happy to eat my words. Vermont Yankee produces 650 megawatts daily. With GMP owned by Gaz Metro (Canada) and Mary being the president, I would think that she might be aware of what will be available from Hydro Qubec. Mary previously wrote a letter to the Reformer in support of license extension for VY.
Wet Blanket

Edgecomb, ME

#11 Mar 27, 2009
Ahh the Governor is likely going to veto it and there are not enough votes to override him.
Also closing VY will do nothing to remove the fuel from the site as Senator Reid has virtually guaranteed Yucca Mountain won't open.
Moving Forward

Topsham, ME

#12 Mar 27, 2009
Ken S wrote:
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I am sure there are many others, but some local businesses that use solar are Green Mountain Power in Westminster & Crest Studios in Townshend. Recently a windmill was installed on a farm in Grafton. At least 4 dairy farms in Vermont (one is the Goodell Farm in Westminster) generate electricity from methane from manure, enough to power about 5,000 homes.
I understand why those associate with VY would want us to believe we have no choice other than nuclear power. I do not understand why any of us would fall for their scare-tactics. We have a great opportunity to bring Vermont to renewable energy, shouldn't we be doing so?
Yes, but why have you waited so long to put these facilities in place? What has been keeping you from producing all of this energy that you are now proposing? Alternative (I use alternative as Nuclear is considered a "green" energy)sources of energy are absolutly in Vermont's future energy mix. However proponents have failed miserably in prepration for 2012. The president of GMP has stated that Vermont Yankee should receive a license extension and that 20 years would allow for time needed to put alternatives in place. Vermont needs to act both responsibly and cooperativly to get the job done.
mike mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#13 Mar 27, 2009
What are the principles of Green energy...what is Green energy?

So hasn't Entergy failed miserably?

mike

Since: Nov 08

United States

#14 Mar 27, 2009
Ken S wrote:
<quoted text>
I am sure there are many others, but some local businesses that use solar are Green Mountain Power in Westminster & Crest Studios in Townshend. Recently a windmill was installed on a farm in Grafton. At least 4 dairy farms in Vermont (one is the Goodell Farm in Westminster) generate electricity from methane from manure, enough to power about 5,000 homes.
I understand why those associate with VY would want us to believe we have no choice other than nuclear power. I do not understand why any of us would fall for their scare-tactics. We have a great opportunity to bring Vermont to renewable energy, shouldn't we be doing so?
ALERT people, no one says you have no other resources. However your solar powered brains have yet to act on any of the alternatives that you all want to use.So VY is your best choice and even out of all of your alternative energy ideas, VY will still be the safest and cheapest. So Crest Studios and that place in westminister, wow, those are 2 businesses using alternatives big whoop. Get a better argument for your cause.
mike mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#15 Mar 27, 2009
Yea, but the people can't trust what Entergy says, or the state...

A logic argument is not going to override it.

Could a nuclear plant live or die by absence of trust?

Wouldn't you love to know the differance with how logic and trust works in the brain.
Anti Hippie

Lisbon Falls, ME

#16 Mar 27, 2009
MRB wrote:
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Take into consideration the jobs that dismantling and decontamination will produce. Alternative power will bring a lot more LOCAL jobs. Already locally there are businesses who are using solar and wind power. Replacing VY power is not out of reach, even though VY supporters would like us to believe they are indispensable.
Most of the power produced by VY can be replaced just by energy efficiency.
Alternative power - what a joke - it will bring no jobs - in the end if VY closes CVP and Green Mountain will buy from the available - aready build coal power stations - yet increasing Vermont's Carbon Foot Print - because Vermont will not the the billion dollar plus loans needed to build the alternative power - what a fool's dream
Anti Hippie

Lisbon Falls, ME

#17 Mar 27, 2009
Ben wrote:
Why in the world would anyone NOT want this corporation to pay the costs associated once the plant has closed? Why should this site NOT be decontaminated?
The plant removal process is federally controlled not state controlled and they set the standards not you.
Anti Hippie

Lisbon Falls, ME

#18 Mar 27, 2009
mike mulligan wrote:
Yep, the ideology that opened up questioning the existence of VY has placed so much in question, that staved money from plant operations and create the operational events and widespread hard feelings, this thing that stole so much opportunity from the nation and the nuclear industry.
Just another stupid MM comment.
Anti Mike

Lisbon Falls, ME

#19 Mar 27, 2009
mike mulligan wrote:
Yea, but the people can't trust what Entergy says, or the state...
A logic argument is not going to override it.
Could a nuclear plant live or die by absence of trust?
Wouldn't you love to know the differance with how logic and trust works in the brain.
The truth is we can not trust you - go backto your dope and leave the real work to the people who are not on drugs.
mike mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#20 Mar 27, 2009
By far the biggest damage to society is through the abuse of cigarettes and drinking alcohol...assohol...drugs are more benign than these two.

Havenít did drugs or booze since 1979.

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