Shumlin raps VY for leaks

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Vermont Senate President Pro Tem Peter Shumlin pushed for the state's public service agency to direct Entergy Corp.
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Jun 3, 2010
 
Larry Smith of Entergy would like you to believe that an 1/8 inch just appeared was detected and repaired within four hours.

You don't suppose he's lying? Naw, he wouldn't lie to us.

These pipes, that they testified under oath did not exist, have been leaking for years. The NRC does not mandate that they be inspected. The NRC of 40 years ago knew that the plants back then were only to be licensed for 40 years. They took into account that the pipes would be about ready to corrode at the end of the life cycle of the plant, thus there was no need for an inspection program.

Now that the NEW NRC is declaring that these plants can go on forever, the underground pipes create a little problem. Interesting to note the NRC has not fined one of the 33 leaking plants so much as one dollar for leaking radioactive substances into the groundwater.

That's real protection for you.

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Jun 3, 2010
 
By DANIEL BARLOW VERMONT PRESS BUREAU - Published: June 3, 2010

MONTPELIER The Democratic leaders of the state House and Senate called on the owners of the Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant to replace its entire underground piping system after the discovery of yet another radioactive leak.

Senate President Peter Shumlin and House Speaker Shap Smith told reporters at a Burlington news conference Wednesday that Entergy, the plant's owner, needs to take drastic steps to stop the ongoing leaks.

Vermont Yankee officials announced over last weekend that another pipe had leaked radioactive substances, including tritium, chromium-51, manganese-54, cobalt-58, cobalt-60, zinc-65, zinc-69, niobium-95, rhodium-105, xenon-131, cesium-137, barium-140 and lanthanum-140.

"We can't continue having a leak of the week," said Shumlin, a resident of Windham County, where the nuclear plant is located. "This is Vermont's biggest environmental disaster in its history. This is our BP disaster."

Vermont Yankee's relicensing bid ran into problems earlier this year after it was revealed the Vernon plant had an extensive tritium leak. That leak has since been fixed, but just in the past week state officials revealed that a series of sinkholes ignored by the plant for two years were found near the contamination area.

And on Saturday, plant officials announced there was a new temporary leak this one in a drain line, releasing a flood of radioactive substances into the ground.

Shumlin, a candidate for governor, oversaw a legislative vote this year in which the Senate overwhelmingly rejected Vermont Yankee's proposal to operate for another 20 years after 2012, when its license to operate expires.

He said Wednesday that plant officials either need to rebuild the underground piping system above ground where future leaks would be immediately obvious or build a series of underground vaults to better monitor the pipes.

"We should all be troubled by this latest leak," Shumlin said. "Entergy Louisiana needs to stand up and be a good corporate citizen by putting an end to this crisis now."

Larry Smith, a spokesperson for Vermont Yankee, said there was no public health risk with the recent leak, which he said was quickly fixed. The plant's ability to monitor its underground piping helped officials find the leak quickly and fix it, he added.

"We take the recent leak very seriously as we have and would any leak, but it would be irresponsible and costly to Vermonters to shut down the plant" because of a small, easily repaired, leak Smith wrote in an e-mail, particularly in the summer.

There are precedents. Oyster Creek nuclear power plant, owned by Exelon, is spending $12 million to move all of its pipes above ground as it continues to grapple with an ongoing tritium leak.

Palisades nuclear power plant in Michigan, owned by Entergy, is replacing 500 feet of underground pipes after also dealing with extensive tritium leaks in recent years.

Shumlin noted that an alternative location for Vermont Yankee, when planning for the plant began in the late 1960s, was on the shores of Lake Champlain. He said Vermonters would be outraged if the plant was sending radioactive pollutants into the state's treasured lake.

Reports last month that strontium-90, an isotope that causes cancer and leukemia, was found in a Connecticut River fish north of the nuclear power plant made national news. Plant and state officials said they don't believe the contamination came from the plant.

Several websites, such as political gossip site Gawker, posted the news alongside a picture of Blinky, the three-eyed radioactive fish from "The Simpsons" television show.

"Authorities think it's fine: All living things are contaminated with trace amounts of strontium-90 because of 1950s weapons testing and Chernobyl," the site wrote. "Phew."

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Jun 3, 2010
 
Same info, but little bit different 'commentary'.

By DANIEL BARLOW VERMONT PRESS BUREAU - Published: June 3, 2010

MONTPELIER The Democratic leaders of the state House and Senate called on the owners of the Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant to replace its entire underground piping system after the discovery of yet another radioactive leak.

Senate President Peter Shumlin and House Speaker Shap Smith told reporters at a Burlington news conference Wednesday that Entergy, the plant's owner, needs to take drastic steps to stop the ongoing leaks.

Vermont Yankee officials announced over last weekend that another pipe had leaked radioactive substances, including tritium, chromium-51, manganese-54, cobalt-58, cobalt-60, zinc-65, zinc-69, niobium-95, rhodium-105, xenon-131, cesium-137, barium-140 and lanthanum-140.

"We can't continue having a leak of the week," said Shumlin, a resident of Windham County, where the nuclear plant is located. "This is Vermont's biggest environmental disaster in its history. This is our BP disaster."

Vermont Yankee's relicensing bid ran into problems earlier this year after it was revealed the Vernon plant had an extensive tritium leak. That leak has since been fixed, but just in the past week state officials revealed that a series of sinkholes ignored by the plant for two years were found near the contamination area.

And on Saturday, plant officials announced there was a new temporary leak this one in a drain line, releasing a flood of radioactive substances into the ground.

Shumlin, a candidate for governor, oversaw a legislative vote this year in which the Senate overwhelmingly rejected Vermont Yankee's proposal to operate for another 20 years after 2012, when its license to operate expires.

He said Wednesday that plant officials either need to rebuild the underground piping system above ground where future leaks would be immediately obvious or build a series of underground vaults to better monitor the pipes.

"We should all be troubled by this latest leak," Shumlin said. "Entergy Louisiana needs to stand up and be a good corporate citizen by putting an end to this crisis now."

Larry Smith, a spokesperson for Vermont Yankee, said there was no public health risk with the recent leak, which he said was quickly fixed. The plant's ability to monitor its underground piping helped officials find the leak quickly and fix it, he added.

"We take the recent leak very seriously as we have and would any leak, but it would be irresponsible and costly to Vermonters to shut down the plant" because of a small, easily repaired, leak Smith wrote in an e-mail, particularly in the summer.

There are precedents. Oyster Creek nuclear power plant, owned by Exelon, is spending $12 million to move all of its pipes above ground as it continues to grapple with an ongoing tritium leak.

Palisades nuclear power plant in Michigan, owned by Entergy, is replacing 500 feet of underground pipes after also dealing with extensive tritium leaks in recent years.

Shumlin noted that an alternative location for Vermont Yankee, when planning for the plant began in the late 1960s, was on the shores of Lake Champlain. He said Vermonters would be outraged if the plant was sending radioactive pollutants into the state's treasured lake.

Reports last month that strontium-90, an isotope that causes cancer and leukemia, was found in a Connecticut River fish north of the nuclear power plant made national news. Plant and state officials said they don't believe the contamination came from the plant.

Several websites, such as political gossip site Gawker, posted the news alongside a picture of Blinky, the three-eyed radioactive fish from "The Simpsons" television show.

"Authorities think it's fine: All living things are contaminated with trace amounts of strontium-90 because of 1950s weapons testing and Chernobyl," the site wrote. "Phew."

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Jun 3, 2010
 
Same info, a little bit different commentary, which shows what a laugh it's becoming.

By DANIEL BARLOW VERMONT PRESS BUREAU - Published: June 3, 2010

MONTPELIER The Democratic leaders of the state House and Senate called on the owners of the Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant to replace its entire underground piping system after the discovery of yet another radioactive leak.

Senate President Peter Shumlin and House Speaker Shap Smith told reporters at a Burlington news conference Wednesday that Entergy, the plant's owner, needs to take drastic steps to stop the ongoing leaks.

Vermont Yankee officials announced over last weekend that another pipe had leaked radioactive substances, including tritium, chromium-51, manganese-54, cobalt-58, cobalt-60, zinc-65, zinc-69, niobium-95, rhodium-105, xenon-131, cesium-137, barium-140 and lanthanum-140.

"We can't continue having a leak of the week," said Shumlin, a resident of Windham County, where the nuclear plant is located. "This is Vermont's biggest environmental disaster in its history. This is our BP disaster."

Vermont Yankee's relicensing bid ran into problems earlier this year after it was revealed the Vernon plant had an extensive tritium leak. That leak has since been fixed, but just in the past week state officials revealed that a series of sinkholes ignored by the plant for two years were found near the contamination area.

And on Saturday, plant officials announced there was a new temporary leak this one in a drain line, releasing a flood of radioactive substances into the ground.

Shumlin, a candidate for governor, oversaw a legislative vote this year in which the Senate overwhelmingly rejected Vermont Yankee's proposal to operate for another 20 years after 2012, when its license to operate expires.

He said Wednesday that plant officials either need to rebuild the underground piping system above ground where future leaks would be immediately obvious or build a series of underground vaults to better monitor the pipes.

"We should all be troubled by this latest leak," Shumlin said. "Entergy Louisiana needs to stand up and be a good corporate citizen by putting an end to this crisis now."

Larry Smith, a spokesperson for Vermont Yankee, said there was no public health risk with the recent leak, which he said was quickly fixed. The plant's ability to monitor its underground piping helped officials find the leak quickly and fix it, he added.

"We take the recent leak very seriously as we have and would any leak, but it would be irresponsible and costly to Vermonters to shut down the plant" because of a small, easily repaired, leak Smith wrote in an e-mail, particularly in the summer.

There are precedents. Oyster Creek nuclear power plant, owned by Exelon, is spending $12 million to move all of its pipes above ground as it continues to grapple with an ongoing tritium leak.

Palisades nuclear power plant in Michigan, owned by Entergy, is replacing 500 feet of underground pipes after also dealing with extensive tritium leaks in recent years.

Shumlin noted that an alternative location for Vermont Yankee, when planning for the plant began in the late 1960s, was on the shores of Lake Champlain. He said Vermonters would be outraged if the plant was sending radioactive pollutants into the state's treasured lake.

Reports last month that strontium-90, an isotope that causes cancer and leukemia, was found in a Connecticut River fish north of the nuclear power plant made national news. Plant and state officials said they don't believe the contamination came from the plant.

Several websites, such as political gossip site Gawker, posted the news alongside a picture of Blinky, the three-eyed radioactive fish from "The Simpsons" television show.

"Authorities think it's fine: All living things are contaminated with trace amounts of strontium-90 because of 1950s weapons testing and Chernobyl," the site wrote. "Phew."

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Jun 3, 2010
 
Didn't mean to post twice. This happens from time to time.

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Jun 3, 2010
 
Yikes! I posted. Didn't appear, so I reposted. Still didn't appear. Hmm. Weird. I signed out then back in. Voila!

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Youre-kidding-Right wrote:
Larry Smith of Entergy would like you to believe that an 1/8 inch just appeared was detected and repaired within four hours.
You don't suppose he's lying? Naw, he wouldn't lie to us.
These pipes, that they testified under oath did not exist, have been leaking for years. The NRC does not mandate that they be inspected. The NRC of 40 years ago knew that the plants back then were only to be licensed for 40 years. They took into account that the pipes would be about ready to corrode at the end of the life cycle of the plant, thus there was no need for an inspection program.
Now that the NEW NRC is declaring that these plants can go on forever, the underground pipes create a little problem. Interesting to note the NRC has not fined one of the 33 leaking plants so much as one dollar for leaking radioactive substances into the groundwater.
That's real protection for you.
Actually, David Lochbaum claims they are all leaking, but because of some weird 'definition' of a 'leak', they only have to declare certain ones are actually leaking.

Sort of like their loony definition of 'underground' pipes vs 'buried' pipes, reminiscent of Clintons now infamous definition of what the word 'is' is...

So, apparently these are but a few of the 'peer-reviwed' facts we are expected to accept as gospel.
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Jun 3, 2010
 
standing headline for Pete. also Pete don't to mention that you still hate Hitler. Oh may it's almost election time.
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Jun 3, 2010
 
I believe the Senator's input as much as I believe that Germany gets 30% of its' energy from Solar!

He still has not responded to any of my emails.

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Jun 3, 2010
 
He corrected the statement a long time ago, like right after he made it.

Didn't respond to e-mails? If you were dogging him for making a gaffe are you surprised?
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Jun 3, 2010
 
People have to understand the relationships of 'cause and risk'. Everything we do as an industrial nation involves risk. There is enormous risk in the air that we breath and the waters we drink. We rely on the EPA to provide limits for chemicals, etc. There are minimun detectable levels for everything we consume; but the key here is there are allowable limits! The recent incidents at VY are much the same. There never was and never will be any danger to the public from these small leaks. They were identified through proactive means and are being remediated in a professional manner.
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so how many of the above posters are Bob (get paid to lobby) Stannard

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jdee wrote:
People have to understand the relationships of 'cause and risk'. Everything we do as an industrial nation involves risk. There is enormous risk in the air that we breath and the waters we drink. We rely on the EPA to provide limits for chemicals, etc. There are minimun detectable levels for everything we consume; but the key here is there are allowable limits! The recent incidents at VY are much the same. There never was and never will be any danger to the public from these small leaks. They were identified through proactive means and are being remediated in a professional manner.
What a load of crap. Is it a full moon agin? OMG.'Proactive means'? Like, the other 'proactive means', such as those mysterious 1/8" holes that keep popping? And then then, ta da! We found another leak!

Spoken like the fool ade drinking, propaganda spreading sockpuppet and stooge from Entergy/VY you obviously are.

You didn't get the newer copy of the manual? How do I know? We've heard this song many times. It was old before it was old. Yawn

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Jun 3, 2010
 
Funny, I just posted this on another thread before you launched into the typical eye-glazing rhetoric courtesy of Entergy, sponsored by nuclear industry and on behalf of VY.

In their 'peer-reviewed' pseudoscience-they seem to want us to believe negative impacts are virtually nonexistent and at 'undetectable levels'. What they don't tell us is that they set the 'detecters' to levels above what they are releasing.

And, its much less harmful than being run over by a train.

We already recieve a background dosage-whats a little more. If you're not yellow-be mellow.

Radiation poisoning no worse than dioxin poisoning. There are worse fates than slowly dying from radiation pollution. Dissidents are being tortured and killed worldwide, and you're worried about a few radioactive nuclear waste leaks getting into your groundwater. Tsk. tsk.

There were only 13 different ones this time. Yes the amount is greater than before, but still no danger or risk to the public. We are cleaning it up, sending it to someone elses backyard, and remediating the soil we soiled. This will continue henceforth until 2012, unless we get relicensed, then until 2032.

In the future fission-freaky doublespeak world, industry controlled and sanctioned 'studies', like those done by their friends @ ORU, will likely only be interested in how much they can dose us with while claiming we still have a 50% chance of not developing cancer.

Its not half empty-its half full!

We will soon be told uranium is a health benefit-its 'enriched'.
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Jun 3, 2010
 
NSD...take a look in your 'mirror, mirror' and take a breath man! Was there any sarcasm in what I wrote? Or did I miss something? Sarcasm and inflammatory language is 'eyecandy', but not constructive. I will concede it helps to sell papers and "FOX" news hounds eat it up as well.
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Jun 3, 2010
 
Star Dust is smoking a little too much of it today.

Do you have too serious a case of the munchies to make a coherent response?

Blah blah blah anything pro-nuke must be entergy sock puppet, while blathering nonsense seems to make one sound like they have a clue.

Guess what? Stardust, no matter what you do you are going to go to turn to dust like everyone else. But it won't be due to nuclear power, even if you lived inside the plant and drank the tritium laced coolade. It would be some other natural cause or maybe a car crash on your way to the co-op.

You don't want to listen to discussions about relative risks and would prefer to fear what you don't understand or rant about things that sound scary. We have serious problems in this world, but you prefer tilting at this windmill.

It would be far better for us if you would just stick a sock-puppet in it and quit your mindless posting.
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Can anyone name one person that Yankke has made sick?
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Jun 3, 2010
 
Shumlin needs to get his own house in order before talking about someone else. Vermont is a poster child for dangerous bridges and inadequate highway manteanace. This endangers the public more than VY could on its worst days. He raps VY for leaky pipes but expects us to daily travel over dangerous bridges and he is apparently OK with that. What a hypocrit.

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AnotherVTyankee4nukepower wrote:
Star Dust is smoking a little too much of it today.
Do you have too serious a case of the munchies to make a coherent response?
Blah blah blah anything pro-nuke must be entergy sock puppet, while blathering nonsense seems to make one sound like they have a clue.
Guess what? Stardust, no matter what you do you are going to go to turn to dust like everyone else. But it won't be due to nuclear power, even if you lived inside the plant and drank the tritium laced coolade. It would be some other natural cause or maybe a car crash on your way to the co-op.
You don't want to listen to discussions about relative risks and would prefer to fear what you don't understand or rant about things that sound scary. We have serious problems in this world, but you prefer tilting at this windmill.
It would be far better for us if you would just stick a sock-puppet in it and quit your mindless posting.
Another 'shoot the messenger' masterpiece. Hey great job but, sorry! I'm still standing. Ha ha.

Another arrogant control freak. I see you fit right in and not doing anything to help your message btw. Sorry, you do not get to make the rules either, decide who can comment, and who can't. What they can say, and what they can't.

You may try to silence others-good luck w/that.

If you don't like it, kindly stay in the vacuum of your echochamber where only those who agree w/all of this neverending nonsense will be found.

Yes, we've heard the 'fear of things you don't understand' stupidness. That's old also. It's not what we 'don't understand', its what we do understand that is disturbing, not 'fearful'.

We have serious problems in this world, yet you, and other pronuclear activists continually attempt to tilt the information and options to exclude anything that does not consider the nuclear industry as the primary option any way you know how. And to characterize it as 'clean and green', though Entergy was forced to remove this slogan from its advertising campaign becaue guess what, it happens to be a lie. But one of many.

The nuclear industry in the pronuclear activist's, and your fantasy world, is the best option for solution to our energy needs, along w/a few other things. Not everyone agrees wtih you, as strange as that may seem.

Are you aware that there are others who do not see it your way and are not buying the many ways activists attempt to portray the nuclear industry? Those of us who have not been run off by insult hurlers such as yourself, nor accepted the mind-numbing rhetoric of the industry lackey you are defending, and crybaby 'JFarmer 9'.

You take yourself way too seriously. Everyone in the world does not accept your opinions and ideas. The majority of VT has rejected the lies of Entergy, NRC and VY and the rest of the clowns. Get over it and yourself.

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jdee wrote:
NSD...take a look in your 'mirror, mirror' and take a breath man! Was there any sarcasm in what I wrote? Or did I miss something? Sarcasm and inflammatory language is 'eyecandy', but not constructive. I will concede it helps to sell papers and "FOX" news hounds eat it up as well.
The typical pronuclear rhetoric such as your 'comments' gets funny after a while. I can take a breath, but that won't make the nonsense make sense.'Proactive'? do you even read or understand what you are saying?

The bot-like behavior never ceases to amaze me.

jdee: "There are minimun detectable levels for everything we consume; but the key here is there are allowable limits!"
-Yes there are, and when you have to come out and recite this repeatedly, there is a problem. Oh please. When you sound desperate, there is a reason. Could it be we've seen this movie dozens of times and can cut to the chase scene from the first scen?

jdee: "The recent incidents at VY are much the same. There never was and never will be any danger to the public from these small leaks. They were identified through proactive means and are being remediated in a professional manner."

Take our word for it. Trust us-we're your friends and neighbors, would we lie to you?

Uh, yes. I do believe this is a possibility. Proactive and professional, that's us!

If proper maintenance was performed, this would never have been and would not be a problem. This mess a problem of your own making, your answer? Blame and shoot the messenger(s). Entergy and NRC the real problem, however your continual shameless shilling for your paychecks versus what is best for VT and what VT ahas decided makes those like you part of the problem.

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