Nuke plant vote raises question of pr...

Nuke plant vote raises question of pre-emption

There are 14 comments on the Brattleboro Reformer story from Feb 17, 2010, titled Nuke plant vote raises question of pre-emption. In it, Brattleboro Reformer reports that:

A looming legislative vote that could call for the shutdown of the Vermont Yankee nuclear plant in 2012 has raised the possibility that a federal court might be asked to block a shutdown.

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Brian

Westland, MI

#1 Feb 18, 2010
They'll shutter VY if we can get the Vermont National Guard in there to make sure. Its called states rights, the federal government can't tell the state government nothing. Read the Constitition. Thats why so many states are telling the federal gov. keeps your hands off our guns and we have freedom of speech. This is what the Tea Party is about power to the people you work for us !! To see the disgusting Republician party try to corner the Tea Party is vulgar. Glenn Beck is a wolf in sheep clothing calling for a 2% VAT tax to pay off the national debt. Funny the UN wants a 2% VAT tax to fund its " Climate change ". He says people who believe in 9/11 truth are terrorists. But now he's eating his words because Sarah Palin came out and said its okay for people to question 9/11 so he's eating his words. Hahaha I love it.

" We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is PULL it. And they made the decision to PULL it and we watched the building collaspe." ( Building 7 NOT HIT BY ANY AIRPLANE )

Larry Silverstein of Silverstein Propertys renter of The World Trade Center complex. Who recieved a multi billion dollar insurance payday for WTC.

Since: Feb 10

Danby, VT

#2 Feb 18, 2010
It is pretty clear that Shumlin is playing politics to try to get VY closed. He is afraid the tritium issue will be solved and the license extension will be granted. For Vt the license extension isn't about 650 jobs for one year it is about 650 jobs for 20 plus years and a revenue stream that is in the billions of dollars. The trouble with our legislature is that it never has been able to see the big picture.
Joe

Warwick, MA

#3 Feb 18, 2010
jaygem wrote:
It is pretty clear that Shumlin is playing politics to try to get VY closed. He is afraid the tritium issue will be solved and the license extension will be granted. For Vt the license extension isn't about 650 jobs for one year it is about 650 jobs for 20 plus years and a revenue stream that is in the billions of dollars. The trouble with our legislature is that it never has been able to see the big picture.
Take that degenerating antique GE piece of crap down and build a new one. Then you will all have jobs for ever.This one is falling apart. I am still waiting for my cheap electricity from that thing but it sounds like all this billions of dollars is going into someone elses pockets, directly from the rate payers. The Estey organ people didn't like it much when people stopped buying organs and they had to shut down. So get over it.
Joe

Warwick, MA

#4 Feb 18, 2010
Instead of being emotional basketcases over keeping jobs blah blah blah, why don't you focus on correcting the whole problem. Try reading something else besides VY propaganda...like this from the Wall Street Journal.

'A new type of nuclear reactor—smaller than a rail car and one tenth the cost of a big plant—is emerging as a contender to reshape the nation's resurgent nuclear power industry.'

And it might not take 650 people to run the thing either, saving the rate payers instead of putting big bucks into the pockets of Entergy or Enexus, or whatever. I'm tired of paying big salaries for these people and I don't care if they are neighbors or not. Do something else. Get over it.
Brian

Westland, MI

#5 Feb 18, 2010
Now that sounds better then the wreck we have now. I heard about a town in Alaska getting a small nuclear plant from Japan the size of 2 55 gallon drums. Once it's done they just unplug it and change it out.
Joe wrote:
Instead of being emotional basketcases over keeping jobs blah blah blah, why don't you focus on correcting the whole problem. Try reading something else besides VY propaganda...like this from the Wall Street Journal.
'A new type of nuclear reactor—smaller than a rail car and one tenth the cost of a big plant—is emerging as a contender to reshape the nation's resurgent nuclear power industry.'
And it might not take 650 people to run the thing either, saving the rate payers instead of putting big bucks into the pockets of Entergy or Enexus, or whatever. I'm tired of paying big salaries for these people and I don't care if they are neighbors or not. Do something else. Get over it.

Since: Feb 10

Danby, VT

#6 Feb 18, 2010
I have no problem with much that is written here by you Joe. My problem is that to date the emotional over the top bloviating has almost all been anti Yankee. It is premature to make the kind of "just shut it down" kind of statement. The Reformer and Shumlin are playing politics. They want to run VY out of town on a rail.

Great letter to the editor today about the real story on Tritium and how dangerous it is not.

We shouln't operate an unsafe plant just to save jobs but the jobs are important enough that we should make sure we don't shut the plant down prematurly for the wrong reasons.

As for building another...let's go. Build two more.
Joe

Devault, PA

#7 Feb 18, 2010
jaygem wrote:
I have no problem with much that is written here by you Joe. My problem is that to date the emotional over the top bloviating has almost all been anti Yankee. It is premature to make the kind of "just shut it down" kind of statement. The Reformer and Shumlin are playing politics. They want to run VY out of town on a rail.
Great letter to the editor today about the real story on Tritium and how dangerous it is not.
We shouln't operate an unsafe plant just to save jobs but the jobs are important enough that we should make sure we don't shut the plant down prematurly for the wrong reasons.
As for building another...let's go. Build two more.
I don't care if Shumlin is playing politics. I don't care if they want to run Entergy or Enexus or whatever out of town on a rail. That's all the emotional crap I am talking about that I keep hearing over and over from people that work there...what about our jobs, whine whine whine. What about all the taxes that will be lost....blah blah blah. You know as well as I do that these GE reactors are antique. I wouldn't expect a 40 year old car running 24 hours a day to hold up. I might keep in my garage and take it out in the summer but not run it till the oil leaked and the floor rotted out. And I am not just talking about tritium leaks. I am talking about collapsing towers and other incidents. I am also talking about broken trust and promises. I just don't believe any thing the owners of VY say, no matter who they are. And I am still waiting for my so called cheap electricity.

Since: Feb 10

Danby, VT

#8 Feb 18, 2010
Joe wrote:
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I don't care if Shumlin is playing politics. I don't care if they want to run Entergy or Enexus or whatever out of town on a rail. That's all the emotional crap I am talking about that I keep hearing over and over from people that work there...what about our jobs, whine whine whine. What about all the taxes that will be lost....blah blah blah. You know as well as I do that these GE reactors are antique. I wouldn't expect a 40 year old car running 24 hours a day to hold up. I might keep in my garage and take it out in the summer but not run it till the oil leaked and the floor
rotted out. And I am not just talking about tritium leaks. I am talking about collapsing towers and other incidents. I am also talking about broken trust and promises. I just don't believe any thing the owners of VY say, no matter who they are. And I am still waiting for my so called cheap electricity.
Joe I think that is a bad analogy. After all what if every part on your 40 year old car had been replaced? Sounds to me like you have already made up your mind.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#9 Feb 18, 2010
Brian wrote:
" We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is PULL it. And they made the decision to PULL it and we watched the building collaspe." ( Building 7 NOT HIT BY ANY AIRPLANE )
Larry Silverstein of Silverstein Propertys renter of The World Trade Center complex. Who recieved a multi billion dollar insurance payday for WTC.
lol
Joe

Devault, PA

#10 Feb 18, 2010
jaygem wrote:
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Joe I think that is a bad analogy. After all what if every part on your 40 year old car had been replaced? Sounds to me like you have already made up your mind.
Are you saying that every part of VY has been replaced over the past 40 years? Oh yeah, they forgot to replace those pipes they forgot to admit to the legislature. Yes. I have made up my mind that we need to shut that piece of crap down and rebuild. It will be safer and cheaper in the long run. I can only imagine what the total cost of keeping a 40 year old antique car going would be. Needless to say, I could have replaced it many times over with something else. I think you give a bad analogy. Actually, I am not so sure if we build a new one that it will make my electricity any cheaper. Ratepayers will still be taking it up the bazoo to pay high salaries and replace crap parts with new parts.
estanson

Windsor, VT

#11 Feb 18, 2010
I think the federal goverment claiming exclusive jursidiction via the NRC would be fun...

it would put the hippies in bed with the right winger fringe in supporting states rights...

with a secessionist platform of candidates comming for a vote...

imagine if the far left of VT (prolly like 40%) aligned with the far right (also prolly 40%) against federal pre-emption...

if VT seceded, so would NH...
Maine would then have to...
so Mass may join
maybe New England SHOULD secede...

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#12 Feb 18, 2010
estanson wrote:
I think the federal goverment claiming exclusive jursidiction via the NRC would be fun...
it would put the hippies in bed with the right winger fringe in supporting states rights...
with a secessionist platform of candidates comming for a vote...
imagine if the far left of VT (prolly like 40%) aligned with the far right (also prolly 40%) against federal pre-emption...
if VT seceded, so would NH...
Maine would then have to...
so Mass may join
maybe New England SHOULD secede...
You anarchist libertarian nutjobs would love that, right?
estanson

Windsor, VT

#13 Feb 18, 2010
Ben Long wrote:
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You anarchist libertarian nutjobs would love that, right?
I would.

I thought it was going to be about legalizing pot...
add that to the mix and the hippies and gun nuts would be side by side...
what a beautiful thought...

Its like half dali lama, half dick chenney

"Give us our green fields, peace and love or i'll shoot you in the f*in face."

is there anything more vermont?
Elmer J Fudd

Cambridge, MA

#14 Feb 18, 2010
estanson wrote:
<quoted text>
I would.
I thought it was going to be about legalizing pot...
add that to the mix and the hippies and gun nuts would be side by side...
what a beautiful thought...
Its like half dali lama, half dick chenney
"Give us our green fields, peace and love or i'll shoot you in the f*in face."
is there anything more vermont?
Eric, the history of the state is righties and lefties working for the same thing. It is only recently that it has gone so far wacko. The state was founded as the free republic of vermont in response to NY and NH both taxing the residents who just wanted to be left alone (hippies). Some gun toting radicals called the Green Mountain Boys provided the firepower to actually get it done. Property rights have always been big. That why you can have the oldest operating commune in the country next to gun nuts and they (for the most part) get along. Go ahead and grow your pot and run naked in the woods, just do it on your own EF ing property and with your own EF ing money. Unfortunately, VT has turned into only keeping the first part of that bargain.

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