Diana Natalicio on quest to make UTEP a top research school

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UTEP President Diana Natalicio is on a mission to turn her school into a research power that is rare in Texas. Full Story
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ONESHOTONEKILL

United States

#1 Mar 15, 2009
Unfortunately due to our location in far west Texas, and lack of pull in Austin, can we say bye bye to that tier one school. EP always is, and will be forgotten in terms of more funding to the city and university! Po-dunk,Texas receives more $$$ by just being closer to those kak-sukas in the according to those arrogant racist God's country,F.U....
ONESHOTONEKILL

United States

#2 Mar 15, 2009
I meant to say kak-sukas in Austin!!
Steve - ELP - Rockport

Ingleside, TX

#3 Mar 15, 2009
Well at least Diana is trying.

UTEP deserves an upgrade. Other state universities can specialize in one or two subjects. Sam Houston State has one of the top 3 Criminal Justice Programs in the nation, yet it doesn't need to upgrade everything.

The same can be said for the University of North Texas- excellent in Public Admin or Music -yet there are quite a few universities for other subjects right in the same area.

UTEP is all there is out here, so a general upgrade would be in order. Its not going to become the University of California or MIT but why not see it get better?
Unmotivated Natalicio

Houston, TX

#4 Mar 15, 2009
One important statistic -- conveniently forgotten:

UTEP 4-year GRADUATION RATES -- 3%-- 3 out of every 100 students graduate in 4 years. This is DEAD LAST in the state, and has been for the past 20 years under Natalicio's leadership.

Way to go Natalicio -- who cares if students are graduating or not. Send us more money -- that is what matters. Never mind that we have already received hundreds of millions of dollars from federal agencies. Quoting her statement in a previous times article: Natalicio says: "It puts the ball in our court to perform. It gives us the kind of incentives that should accelerate our progress. Then, it's going to be up to us to compete for those resources."

To quote another post in the Times:"With a salary close to $500,000.00 and hundreds and hundreds of millions of tax-payers money coming to UTEP to "MOTIVATE" administrators, and SHE STILL SAYS SHE NEEDS MORE TO BE MOTIVATED?
Time to find a President whose MOTIVATION is more affordable to change what the post says about the very low graduation rates. When is UTEP leadership going to recognize that the dismal graduation rates of 3%-- that is 3 out of every 100 students graduate in 4 years -- need to improve? If they don't have the ability or willingness to change this, what makes them think they can handle a Tier-1 institution?
west sider

El Paso, TX

#5 Mar 15, 2009
Unmotivated Natalicio wrote:
One important statistic -- conveniently forgotten:
UTEP 4-year GRADUATION RATES -- 3%-- 3 out of every 100 students graduate in 4 years. This is DEAD LAST in the state, and has been for the past 20 years under Natalicio's leadership.
What kind of special magic happens when you graduate in 4 years instead of 5 or even 6?

El Paso is poor and kids are less prepared for college here than in Texas.

So if they take fewer classes a semester so that they can actually pass and pay for them why is that so bad?

Some kind of 4 year graduate factory may sound appealing to some people but El Paso's students are from the real world and UTEP has nothing to be ashamed of.
Unmotivated Natalicio

Houston, TX

#6 Mar 15, 2009
west sider wrote:
<quoted text>
What kind of special magic happens when you graduate in 4 years instead of 5 or even 6?
El Paso is poor and kids are less prepared for college here than in Texas.
So if they take fewer classes a semester so that they can actually pass and pay for them why is that so bad?
Some kind of 4 year graduate factory may sound appealing to some people but El Paso's students are from the real world and UTEP has nothing to be ashamed of.
UT Pan-American has double the graduation rates of UTEP's and its population of students is very similar to those of El Paso. Other border institutions Laredo, Brownsville, etc are similar but with higher graduation rates. The hundreds of millions of dollars from NSF, NASA, NIH, etc that have come to UTEP have done so under the pretense of improving graduation rates but for the past 20 years under Natalicio's watch they have not changed.

It is time to stop justifying the inability or unwillingness of Natalicio's administration to change this by blaming everything in El Paso and its students being poor, being first generation college students and on and on . The real culprit is Natalicio and her group of extremely weak administrators who would do anything to keep the power.(Bristol, Riter, Arenaz, etc). It is time for a fresh generation of capable and interested people to come in and remedy this dismal performance by Natalicio.
Unmotivated Natalicio

Houston, TX

#8 Mar 15, 2009
Bushs_Folly wrote:
You can't do it with a Mexican majority student population.
Biologically impossible.
They're stupid overall.
That's why she acknowledged differences by bringing up the SAT.
Even George Bush admitted it.
That's why he concocted the Top Ten Percent law.
And that's why so many "Anglo" National Merit Scholars have had to flee Texas.
They cannot get into A&M or UT Austin.
I think your information is obviously wrong and your intelligence is clearly put in doubt by your comments. Many good students from El Paso, including Mexican students, have left for Stanford, UC Berkeley, MIT, Rice,
UCLA, UC San Diego, etc and have done very well.

Your comments clearly show the lack of interest in engaging in an intelligent debate. You give the same reasons that Natalicio gives: These poor students are ill prepared and we are here to show them the way. What UTEP needs is capable and willing leadership -- one that can perform. Blaming the students for the failures of the administration is only acceptable to those not interested in changing the status quo.
Hmmmm

United States

#9 Mar 15, 2009
UTEP does need to work on graduate rates and improving entrance standards. But for what it is worth, only about 35% of college students nationwide graduate in 4 years nowadays. Still, that's no excuss for UTEP's single-digit numbers regardless of student body make-up. I'd like to see numbers on how many UTEP students graduate in 5 years or even 6.
Harry

Montclair, NJ

#10 Mar 15, 2009
I taught at UTEP back in the 1970s, and recognized Diana Natalicio's commitment to the University and her sense of mission. In my view, she has done a great job as President, working under some very difficult constraints. I think El Paso should be proud of her efforts to fight for UTEP. She's up against some very powerful and politically connected competition. UTEP's designation as a Tier-One institution would have lasting positive impact on El Paso and its young people.
MADASHELL

El Paso, TX

#11 Mar 15, 2009
UTEP, CALCETINES, SUX!!!!
Natalicio is merely looking for tier one status so that UTEP can continue to justify increases to tuitions for those that cannot afford the rip offs!
How disigenuous of her!
She only wants to tout her so-called accomplishments on the backs of the poor!
This is the height of hypocrisy!
Shaun

El Paso, TX

#13 Mar 15, 2009
I am amazed that this Bushs_Folly person can even have a conversation about higher education. It is pretty obvious that this fool either, has not been, or did not learn anything in college. This person is simply a coward who likes to say racist things behind an anonymous screen because they are venting due to frustration over their inferiority complex. I am not sure where you got the idea that race shapes intelligence. Race is a social construction not a biological one. Please post some links or guide me to where you got your misinformed ideas from. I would suggest that in the mean time you stop wasting your time posting moronic falsehoods, and focus on improving yourself before you start worrying about other people. You seriously need help. Start feeling better about yourself and you will enjoy the world and the people who live in it.
Been There Done That

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Mar 15, 2009
Unmotivated Natalicio wrote:
One important statistic -- conveniently forgotten:
UTEP 4-year GRADUATION RATES -- 3%-- 3 out of every 100 students graduate in 4 years. This is DEAD LAST in the state, and has been for the past 20 years under Natalicio's leadership.
Way to go Natalicio -- who cares if students are graduating or not. Send us more money -- that is what matters. Never mind that we have already received hundreds of millions of dollars from federal agencies....
I agree with everything that you posted. One important point that you did not mention: The faculty has received little if any support from the administration. Instead, they are expected to teach 3 courses every semester, with some of the graduate classes having 40 or more students. Many tier-one institutions have a reduced teaching load, so that the faculty has the time to apply for more grants, conduct research studies and publish, publish, publish. The faculty at UTEP is also expected to serve on university committees and be prolific with service endeavors, both within the university and in the community. One other point - most of the administrators at UTEP are not researchers. The current provost has research and publishing credentials on par with a typical assistant professor.

Unmotivated Natalicio

Houston, TX

#16 Mar 15, 2009
Hmmmm wrote:
UTEP does need to work on graduate rates and improving entrance standards. But for what it is worth, only about 35% of college students nationwide graduate in 4 years nowadays. Still, that's no excuss for UTEP's single-digit numbers regardless of student body make-up. I'd like to see numbers on how many UTEP students graduate in 5 years or even 6.
According to the The University of Texas System Graduation Rates Initiative
Progress Report April 2007, these are UTEP's five-year and six-year graduation rates for the 2007 cohort: 18% and 28%. These are the lowest in the UT system. Compare to Pemian Basin's: 32% and 35%. Keep in mind that, unlike UTEP, Permian Basin has not benefitted from all the support in the hundred of millions from federal agencies.
Unmotivated Natalicio

Houston, TX

#17 Mar 15, 2009
Been There Done That wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with everything that you posted. One important point that you did not mention: The faculty has received little if any support from the administration. Instead, they are expected to teach 3 courses every semester, with some of the graduate classes having 40 or more students. Many tier-one institutions have a reduced teaching load, so that the faculty has the time to apply for more grants, conduct research studies and publish, publish, publish. The faculty at UTEP is also expected to serve on university committees and be prolific with service endeavors, both within the university and in the community. One other point - most of the administrators at UTEP are not researchers. The current provost has research and publishing credentials on par with a typical assistant professor.
Thanks for clarifying this point. I agree. There are good faculty at UTEP and good students. The current UTEP faculty deserve a much better working environment. I think UTEP could be great -- were it not for the very weak administrators and their total inability and unwillingness to change the dismal graduation rates.
Been There Done That

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Mar 15, 2009
Bushs_Folly wrote:
Shaun is an idiot.
Why do you think they do DNA tests on the "migrants" who drown in the canals or Rio Grande?
It's because they can identify victims by race.
Did you not know that?....
What? Where do you come up with this crap? According to Craig Venter, President and Chief Scientific Officer of Celera Genomics (2000), "Concept of race has no genetic or scientific basis." In other words, race cannot be determined by DNA. Questions?
Unmotivated Natalicio

Houston, TX

#19 Mar 15, 2009
Bushs_Folly wrote:
So, Unmotivated Natalacio is lying?
Why are the best and brightest white kids being shoved aside so that token, dimwitted Mexicans can take their places?
Answer the question.
As for the parasites who attend Ivy League diploma mills, who cares?
What do they major in?
Ethnic studies?
Mexican and Mexican-American students get PhD degrees in Biostatistics (Harvard, University of Washington, USC), Mathematics (Princeton, Berkeley, Stanford), Physics (Rice, Georgia Tech, Berkeley), Bio-Engineering, Genetics, etc. I do not expect you to acknowledge this fact, or comprehend it. You have already been shown to be ignorant about many things and unable to carry on an intelligent debate.
Been There Done That

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Mar 15, 2009
Bushs_Folly wrote:
So, Unmotivated Natalacio is lying?
Why are the best and brightest white kids being shoved aside so that token, dimwitted Mexicans can take their places?
Answer the question.
As for the parasites who attend Ivy League diploma mills, who cares?
What do they major in?
Ethnic studies?
What about Danny Olivas? In case you can't remember who he is - he is a NASA Shuttle Payload Specialist and UTEP graduate. You really are a simplistic and racist moron.
Steve - ELP - Rockport

Ingleside, TX

#21 Mar 15, 2009
People like Bush's Folly are cowards in real life but they enjoy hiding behind anonymous screen names and baiting everyone. Do you think he would ever say that racist dribble to someone's face? He get's a kick from the attention he's given. Anyone surprised he lied about the graduation rate?

Anyway it would be nice for UTEP and our state. Have some specialized places such as Sam Houston for Crim Justice etc and have some generalized research institutions.
Unmotivated Natalicio

Houston, TX

#22 Mar 15, 2009
Steve - ELP - Rockport wrote:
People like Bush's Folly are cowards in real life but they enjoy hiding behind anonymous screen names and baiting everyone. Do you think he would ever say that racist dribble to someone's face? He get's a kick from the attention he's given. Anyone surprised he lied about the graduation rate?
Anyway it would be nice for UTEP and our state. Have some specialized places such as Sam Houston for Crim Justice etc and have some generalized research institutions.
Your idea of having institutions funded for what they do best (e.g. Sam Houston for Crim Justice, etc) is appealing but it may require the funding of a wider set of programs than just the specific program of excellence because students feed from other programs. However, it is a good idea for discussion.

I agree with you that more funding for UTEP would be good. But concerns about the leadership of the current administration cannot, should not, be ignored. After 20 years of low graduation rates, El Paso deserves better. The potential is there, what is lacking is a responsible and capable administration.
rising star

El Paso, TX

#23 Mar 15, 2009
SO UTEP is actually 4th or 5th and not second in line as EP TIMES previously reported... that is more of a challenge, but it is a long term process. The best thing Natatlicio publically stated is she's for accessibility and Tier 1. It isn't a mutually exclusive senario. Who says EP can't pave their own way? They are currently seeking Teir 1 while still being accessible they can continue to refine the process and keep aiming high. A slash and burn EP political mentality that is so prevalant is counter productive to any quest.

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