In El Paso, rear-end crashes decrease 22%

Full story: El Paso Times

Red-light cameras in Texas have decreased crashes by 30 percent. But rear-end bumps rose by 5 percent, according to a just-released study by Texas A&M University's Texas Transportation Institute.

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Evan Wojtanek

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Running a red light should have a fine in the $500 range.

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Dec 12, 2008
 
Figures don't lie.....

But lier's figure.
OGI Conservative Elitist

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Dec 12, 2008
 
viktims wrote:
Figures don't lie.....
But lier's figure.
What does that statement mean? Based on our past disagreements I am guessing you think it is all lies and "big brother" propaganda. I hope it means you understand the insane driving habits of El Paso and the need to hold them accountable by hitting them in the wallet. Increase fines! Put cameras at all intersections. Laws need to be respected and enforced.
Carl Starr

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Dec 12, 2008
 
I think DPS claim that they dont need to be licensed conflicts with the mayoral candidate here in El Paso that may have been arrested for same type thing. Also any time a private acts in concert with police a 14th Amendment die process claim can be raised.

http://cbs11tv.com/local/red.light.ticket.2.8...

Wednesday, December 03, 2008
Federal judge: Give back red-light camera ticket money

Are thousands of tickets given to Texas because of red light cameras invalid because vendors weren't properly licensed? A federal judge recently said "Yes," and that should be cause for alarm for cities who're already gleefully spending red light camera income and now may have to give it back.

According to KFDA-TV in Dallas, "A District Court Judge agrees with [the plaintiffs in a federal lawsuit], saying the [red light camera] company is operating illegally and should have to refund all fines they collected." That's a major victory for camera opponents if the ruling stands up on appeal. Both of the other companies operating red light cameras in Texas are similarly circumstanced.

The Dallas CBS affiliate quoted plaintiff's attorney Lloyd Ward declaring, "The money they have been kind enough to remove from the pockets of the citizens of this state, I think they should bring it back into this state and put it back into our coffers." See also coverage in the Amarillo Globe News.

Perhaps it was this legal development that spurred the release this week the Texas Department of Transportation's red light camera analysis, which claimed unusually high success rate at preventing auto accidents based on limited (and sometimes nonexistent) data.

If cities must give back all red light camera revenues generated to date, it'll put quite a hitch in their budgetary git-along, if you know what I'm sayin'. That's a lot of scratch!
Carl Starr

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Dec 12, 2008
 
due process
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Dec 12, 2008
 
Redd/Resler and Sunland/Mesa are cash cows and there is a conflict of interest. the timings are all off also, meaning you can be in a line of cars, enter the intersection on a green, and watch as the yellow and then red appear and you can not speed up to get out of the way.
Many times I am trapped entering the intersection on a yellow because to stop I would have to lock up wheels and probably cause an accident or end up stopped within the intersection. So I just continue on a yellow, with all the other cars ahead of me just packed up. I see the red light.
Someone must review the videos, because I haven't got a ticket yet, but the flashes happen.
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Dec 12, 2008
 
El Pasoans love to be rear ended
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Dec 12, 2008
 
It's Resler, not Ressler.
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Dec 12, 2008
 
The cameras are needed. El Pasoans are the worst drivers in the country. If you get a ticket, its because you ran a red light. Deal with it!
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Dec 12, 2008
 
got to be a better way wrote:
Redd/Resler and Sunland/Mesa are cash cows and there is a conflict of interest. the timings are all off also, meaning you can be in a line of cars, enter the intersection on a green, and watch as the yellow and then red appear and you can not speed up to get out of the way.
Many times I am trapped entering the intersection on a yellow because to stop I would have to lock up wheels and probably cause an accident or end up stopped within the intersection. So I just continue on a yellow, with all the other cars ahead of me just packed up. I see the red light.
Someone must review the videos, because I haven't got a ticket yet, but the flashes happen.
This is how these cameras are suppose to work: if any part of your car is in the intersection area when the light turns red, you are suppose to receive a ticket. Then I've heard so many other stories in how they work, so who knows.

People need to be safer drivers. If anything just watch your driving.
GentleCynic

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Dec 12, 2008
 
Lights are fine. They work. Only problem is, a lot of very important people behind law-abiding drivers will tailgate them making them afraid to apply their brakes for fear of being rear-ended. I'm sure these folks have very important places to be, and things to do, so they endanger a consciencious and safe driver.
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Dec 12, 2008
 
got to be a better way wrote:
Redd/Resler and Sunland/Mesa are cash cows and there is a conflict of interest. the timings are all off also, meaning you can be in a line of cars, enter the intersection on a green, and watch as the yellow and then red appear and you can not speed up to get out of the way.
Many times I am trapped entering the intersection on a yellow because to stop I would have to lock up wheels and probably cause an accident or end up stopped within the intersection. So I just continue on a yellow, with all the other cars ahead of me just packed up. I see the red light.
Someone must review the videos, because I haven't got a ticket yet, but the flashes happen.
Well if you see that you cannot go any further with the all the other cars packed up, DO NOT PROCEED INTO THE INTERSECTION, just wait until the you can proceed. If I see that my vehicle will not fit in that section I wait at the intersection before I proceed. That is only disrupting traffic all the way around.
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Dec 12, 2008
 
got to be a better way wrote:
Redd/Resler and Sunland/Mesa are cash cows and there is a conflict of interest. the timings are all off also, meaning you can be in a line of cars, enter the intersection on a green, and watch as the yellow and then red appear and you can not speed up to get out of the way.
Many times I am trapped entering the intersection on a yellow because to stop I would have to lock up wheels and probably cause an accident or end up stopped within the intersection. So I just continue on a yellow, with all the other cars ahead of me just packed up. I see the red light.
Someone must review the videos, because I haven't got a ticket yet, but the flashes happen.
if you see that you do not fit you are supposed to wait on the other side of the lights, even if the light is green, so that you do not end up getting stuck at the intersection on a red light and hold up all the traffic. this is why there are backups because of people like you who do not know how to drive you dummy
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Dec 12, 2008
 
Safety is the issue here. Although I have been ripped off by the Municipal Courts in the past, my driving has been nothing but defensive. There are drivers who take unnecessary risks on our roads. If the cameras posted at intersections are helping save lives and avoiding collisions then I am for it. I do have a bone to pick with the city about this. These feeble attempts at enforcing your laws show your corrupted nature. I took a defensive driving course to avoid a ticket on my driver record and the mail wasn't delivered til after the court date. This miserable ticket cost me 1 a spot on my driving record. 2 and more than $350 dollars. ALl for a missed turn signal. I must say thank you Judge Rick A Olivo for understanding that I don't control the mail and neither do you. The irony is some people lose their lives in automible accidents and karma is waiting for those with Olivo's attitude. The poor get poorer and the rich don't give a damn!
nono

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Dec 12, 2008
 
The cameras owners get a piece of the fines which sucks..pay a flat fee to them.
Also the bigest hazard on the corners are the dirtbags begging that is illegal and obstrcts traffic and the cops have no balls to stop
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Dec 12, 2008
 
Road Master wrote:
El Pasoans love to be rear ended
Ahahaha

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Dec 12, 2008
 
OGI Conservative Elitist wrote:
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What does that statement mean? Based on our past disagreements I am guessing you think it is all lies and "big brother" propaganda. I hope it means you understand the insane driving habits of El Paso and the need to hold them accountable by hitting them in the wallet. Increase fines! Put cameras at all intersections. Laws need to be respected and enforced.
It means, they can throw out any figure they want. They own the data.

In the end, this is just another tax.

Thinking of new ways to suck money out of the common people is what our government does now days.
Chupagallos

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Dec 12, 2008
 
It is all just a big money making scam. What else would we expect the statistics to state other than this plan is working? Of course it's working...it is doing what it was designed to do, generate money for the city at the expense of additional burdens on taxpayers. Give this stinking program another couple of years and someone will run for mayor on the platform of removing these thieving cameras. Whoever it may be they will surely have my vote.
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Dec 13, 2008
 
viktims wrote:
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It means, they can throw out any figure they want. They own the data.
In the end, this is just another tax.
Thinking of new ways to suck money out of the common people is what our government does now days.
Not really another tax. Only a punishment fine for not obey the law. I have never paid it, I don't run red lights. Every intersection I am stopped at has blatant red light running. It's dangerous and extremely disrespectful for people to put other drivers lives in danger because they don't respect a red light means stop. They get what they deserve and the fines should be bigger.
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Dec 13, 2008
 
opps "obeying"

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