9 sue El Paso Electric, allege ageism

Full story: El Paso Times 23
Nine former El Paso Electric Employees are accusing the company of age discrimination after they were terminated late last year as part of the company's outsourcing of its information technology department. Full Story
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The Wall

United States

#1 Dec 12, 2008
All these IT jobs are being outsourced. Stop your bitchin' people.
Give me a break

United States

#2 Dec 12, 2008
"ageism" WT F! 57 or 53 is hardly ederly. Its been my experience that long-term employees in large companies tend to get lazy and complacent. They start to feel entitled because of their years of service and feel the company owes them more than they owe the company. I think the fact that these people are litigious also shows a character trait.
I hate how companies don't have the freedom to make decisions any more. The ambulance chaser lawyers are just stalking them and looking for any chance to make a kill. It looks to me like the execs at EPE decided to make some cutbacks but said make sure you fire at least one female and one hispanic but not too many of each...They avoided any gender or race issues but the lawyers figures out everyone was over 50 ... so something must be up.... OH PLEASE!
alm

Austin, TX

#3 Dec 12, 2008
Too bad the column does not describe their qualifications. In IT you must be up with the times and show that you are not dead weight. All the department was fired and the ones that were qualified were picked up by Dyonix the ones that were not qualified lost out. I have seen that people got into the IT field way back that were not qualified and did not get their degree or certifications and when the time came to prove their knowledge many of them did not have the documents to prove their skills. That little piece of paper does make a difference in those instances.
In My Opinion!!!
dallas

Garland, TX

#4 Dec 12, 2008
outsourcing american jobs to india is the norm. we can all just sit here and wait until it happens to all of us
Age just a number

Dallas, TX

#5 Dec 12, 2008
They seem to have moved on; one to a Fortune 500 company and another to a family business. So what's the prob?
fight back

El Paso, TX

#6 Dec 12, 2008
older workers are easy targets. the electric company ceo ershell redd worked 9 months, terminated these employees, then took a $1.4 million severance. I am glad these employees are fighting back. EPE and these other greedy corporations needs to be taught a lesson.
loyal worker

El Paso, TX

#7 Dec 12, 2008
it's despicable how corporations treat their employees who work 15 or 20 years for them. these El Paso electric workers deserved better. For the people posting who have an "oh well" attitude, try to go out and find a job at 55 years of age when you've been doing the same job for 25 or 30 years.
jason

El Paso, TX

#8 Dec 12, 2008
To the poster named "Give me a break", you are an idiot. When 33 of 34 employees who are terminated are over the age of forty, that raises an issue on whether EPE is getting rid of his older workers. Also, being "elderly" is not the qualification for age discrimination, it's being over the age of 40. Get an education moron.
Luis M

El Paso, TX

#9 Dec 12, 2008
I'm always amazed at the callous attitude some people have. Many younger workers don't understand loyalty to their employers, therefore they don't understand or care about older workers who lose their jobs after 20 or more years. Hey, just get another job, is their response. It's not that easy. My prayers go out to these workers and their families. I hope they get a fair settlement in their case, and EPE changes its way.
Ernie B Watts

El Paso, TX

#10 Dec 12, 2008
Hey "Alm", who says that these workers were not doing their jobs? They receive good evals and bonuses before the layoffs. In fact, many of these laid off workers were used by Dyonyx to train their workers to do the job. It's not a secret at EPE that Dyonyx is still having problems doing the work. I guess $8 million doesn't buy what it used to. Also, if your concerned about worker performance, what about failed CEO Ershell Redd who was kicked out after 9 months and received a million dollar plus severance? I guess it's a different standard for CEOs? I'm sure you were sad to see Congress challenge the Ford, GM and Chrysler CEOs when they flew to Washington in their private jets.
Give me a break

United States

#11 Dec 12, 2008
jason wrote:
To the poster named "Give me a break", you are an idiot. When 33 of 34 employees who are terminated are over the age of forty, that raises an issue on whether EPE is getting rid of his older workers. Also, being "elderly" is not the qualification for age discrimination, it's being over the age of 40. Get an education moron.
You are a little F'er. Why the F do you have to turn this forum into personal attacks because you don't like my opinion. A 'H0le. I think you need an education... the kind that comes from a backhand.
Fack the Bailout

Houston, TX

#12 Dec 12, 2008
Texas is an at will state.
Ace

El Paso, TX

#13 Dec 12, 2008
American workers keeping getting the shaft from their employers. it's good to see 9 workers willing to stand up to this greed. I fully support these nine former employees in their fight.
Arturo Fernandez wiener

El Paso, TX

#14 Dec 12, 2008
El paso electric will do you wrong! anyone; but no one realyy wants to talk about it; its an el paso thing. Good for these people to come out and i hope their case has merit in court or walk away with something.
Robert

El Paso, TX

#15 Dec 12, 2008
"At will" does not allow employers to terminate employees for discriminatory or otherwise unlawful reasons. El Paso Electric is going to have problems explaining this to a jury of working El Pasoans
Mando

El Paso, TX

#16 Dec 12, 2008
EP Electric not only hurt these workers and their families, they hurt the economy of El Paso. Instead of these 34 employees spending their salaries in El Paso, EPE sent our money (paid by our utility bills) to an out of town company. EP Electric betrayed El Paso, and the people who are responsible should face the consequences.
Lesson to All

El Paso, TX

#17 Dec 12, 2008
It's simple, if you plan on working with one company for a long period of time. Get out after 20 years. Then go work with another employer and put in another twenty years is you so desire.
By the age of retirement you'll have two pensions to drawn on. However i'm sure that these individuals will have a very good chance at winning their lawsuit, unless there was some stipulation that only upper management and executives were entitled to "bridge the gap" when nearing retirement.
Outsourcing should not be something new to us. It is a fact of business life.
jose

El Paso, TX

#18 Dec 12, 2008
so you say it's simple. work 20 years, leave and find a new job with another employer and then work another 20 years. ahhhh. guess you forgot that employer #2 is not interested in a 40 something year old whose 20 years of prior experience make him/her a heck of a lot more expensive (salary and benefits) than some recent college graduate who will work for almost nothing (including no health insurance). the best we can hope for is an employer with a tad of scruples who will atleast try to look out for the little guy (just a little)
Wild Turkey

El Paso, TX

#19 Dec 12, 2008
HMMM, 37 employees with, say,$50,000 avg pay per year equals $1,850,000 per year and they were terminated to cut costs while paying Dyonox $8,000,000 for services for two years. Where exactly were the savings?
Gupta

United States

#21 Dec 12, 2008
Wild Turkey wrote:
HMMM, 37 employees with, say,$50,000 avg pay per year equals $1,850,000 per year and they were terminated to cut costs while paying Dyonox $8,000,000 for services for two years. Where exactly were the savings?
they dont want to pay the full pensions

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