New Leaf to drop disputed body care p...

New Leaf to drop disputed body care products

There are 12 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Apr 29, 2008, titled New Leaf to drop disputed body care products. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Popular body care products marketed as organic will be disappearing from the shelves at New Leaf Community Market for failing to meet the company's standards.

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Santa Cruz, CA

#1 Apr 29, 2008
Aveda is mentioned at the end of the article. Were that company's products also challenged in the lawsuit? Not clear.

Santa Cruz, CA

#2 Apr 29, 2008
Good to hear that at least one company has standards, other then maximizing profits.

Oakland, CA

#3 Apr 29, 2008
Soaps need to be biodegradable more than organic. We don't eat it. We contaminate our earth with it

Moorestown, NJ

#4 Apr 29, 2008
Wow! Organic food might be healthy. But organic products dont do anything just dig a hole in your pocket!
take another puff

United States

#5 Apr 29, 2008
if new leaf is truly "organic", then it needs to remove a whole bunch of other products from its shelves as well. like strawberries that are grown in soil prepared with methyl bromide the ozone depleting gas used to kill bacteria.

“Clock Strikes Twelve”

Since: Mar 08


#6 Apr 29, 2008
huh wrote:
Soaps need to be biodegradable more than organic. We don't eat it. We contaminate our earth with it
I like using petrol-free laundry detergent, and most of it works pretty well and doesn't cost any more than Tide HE. And all that junk in shampoo can aid in male pattern baldness. But some hygiene products don't work so well all-natural, such as Toothpaste. My teeth like fluoride.

It is true about the details of "natural" labels. Its a money maker. Look at Fox and all their green commercials. You think Rupert Murdoch gives a hoot about going green? Its somehow making him green.

I'm still not a huge fan of New Leaf, due to gouging because people in this town will pay them no matter what. But at least they are taking a nice step. Likewise, I'd gladly buy Bio-Diesel if it were priced more competitively, and not gouged even more than fossil fuels.

Oakland, CA

#7 Apr 29, 2008
I think New Leaf should take the products down. Part of the reason folks shop there is because of perceived integrity, so it would be foolhardy (and bad business) for them to not take action.

The article would have been better with a list of the companies/products. As is, the article is fairly disjointed and raises a lot of questions. All Alba products? What about Aveda? etc
A Health Enthusiast

Aromas, CA

#8 Apr 29, 2008
"Soaps need to be biodegradable more than organic. We don't eat it. We contaminate our earth with it"

Biodegradable and organic go hand in hand really...and that's pretty much the point. Human bodies don't like petroleum and neither do plants or fish.
"I think New Leaf should take the products down. Part of the reason folks shop there is because of perceived integrity, so it would be foolhardy (and bad business) for them to not take action."

Thank you! As the person (mis)quoted in this article, that's exactly why we are doing this. OUR standards, not Dr. Bronners', not the FDA's, ours.

Just to clarify, only a handful of the products called out by the OCA are on our shelves currently, and the Alba products were: Alba Passion Fruit Body Wash and Alba Replenishing Shampoo. All products that we will be discontinuing due to their testing positive for 1,4 dioxane will have signs that will say why we are doing this and what to look for in clean products. Thank you Santa Cruz for being such a progressive community!
My body eats soap

Santa Cruz, CA

#9 Apr 29, 2008
We may not eat soap but we certainly absorb it and everything in it. In fact, with all the semi-toxic cosmetic and tanning products that folks use, w/out ever checking labels, people probably absorb more toxins through their skin than through what they stick in their mouths. I hope the Dr. Bronner's folks win their lawsuit and educate lots of consumers to read the fine print on their cosmetic products. And thank you New Leaf and the gal that runs the body care product section for making this decision.
Organic Mind

New York, NY

#10 Apr 30, 2008
I am really disgusted with this harassment lawsuit against good companies. All personal care products need some kind of chemical ingredients to make it work properly. Even the Organic Magic Soap of Dr. Bronner uses such "bad" ingredients like Potassium hydroxide and Sodium hydroxide (skin irritant, cancer-causing, high occupational hazards, and the list goes on and on...). So why is he going in this harassing lawsuit direction without even trying to discuss this subject in the proper forum.

Even USDA pronounced that their standards are not applicable for personal care products. Check it out:

Maybe David Bronner decided to drink some of his "magic soap" and wake up feeling he is the new Secretary of Agriculture. Dr. Bronner is not in a position to dictate what organic personal care is. He prepared this very self-serving survey to try to defend his point of view. His products are not better than the ones that he is attacking. He uses chemical ingredients and what is worse he hides this information from the public. He follows food grade standards and he believes that?s the way to go? But I can assure that USDA allowed the use of some chemical ingredients with no intention to certify soaps, but foods. We need specific standards for personal care cosmetics and we support Ecocert and OASIS in their intention to bring to consumers a specific set of rules for these products.

Santa Cruz, CA

#11 Apr 30, 2008
USDA rules for labeling are problematic. I once discovered a product I used was labeled "95% organic" -- what the heck does THAT mean? That only 5% is methylisothiazolinone?

Here are the USDA rules:
* 100 percent organic -- products that are completely organic or made of all organic ingredients.
* Organic -- products that are at least 95 percent organic.
* Made with organic ingredients -- these are products that contain at least 70 percent organic ingredients. The organic seal can't be used on these packages.
Mr Rubble

Menifee, CA

#12 Apr 30, 2008
Shoppers at New Leaf use soap?

Thats probably news to them.

Looks like most customers of New Leaf are heroin addicts or have fleas.

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