Man arrested for trespassing on his o...

Man arrested for trespassing on his own land

There are 69 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 4, 2009, titled Man arrested for trespassing on his own land. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A northwestern Wisconsin man who confronted a work crew building a pipeline across his land was Wednesday arrested for trespassing on his own property.

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BearManNorth

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#68 Dec 6, 2009
Afton wrote:
Interesting debate. None of you are aware of all the details of this case and none of you were present when the person was arrested. The story is far more complicated then the overly simplified story you read. There is a pre existing easement for the pipeline that exists already, they are adding a second for capacity reasons. That easement agreement allows for the maintaince and upgrade of the pipeline as needed. When the pipeline company is present for said purposes the site becomes "a work zone" and for safety reasons the property reverts to pipe line company control to accomplish the work in a safe manner. Thus the property owner does not "own" the land while they are working on the pipe line. Compensation has been given in this case and the landowner objected to the amount. The amount was computed using the contract for the first easement.
I know because I'm a landowner who has the same company and agreement in place on my property. The crews were exceptionally nice to me and did some "extra" work to help me out. The money really did not matter to me, but then I'm not greedy either, because I know what money they gave me came from my neighbors and friends in the form of utility bills.
All the rest of this debate is pointless......
Ahhhh...No you are totally wrong here. It is not at all like your easement situation. Read and comprehend first. By the way...I lived most of my life around the Afton area, and this IS WAY different. You have not yet experianced what "could" happen to you in this type of matter...as the same goes or MnObserver.
MN Observer

Saint Paul, MN

#69 Dec 6, 2009
BearManNorth wrote:
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Ahhhh...so then you know better and are spewing you views only. That`s OK..Money talks, and your doing a good job of proving how it works.
That statement makes no sense what so ever. Would you please explain? Of course what I am writing are my views. What's with the money comment?
BearManNorth

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#70 Dec 6, 2009
MN Observer wrote:
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That statement makes no sense what so ever. Would you please explain? Of course what I am writing are my views. What's with the money comment?
Lord, you can`t figure THAT out. Read and comprehend WHY the landowner didn`t take the money, and the repercussions of what would happen if he [and his father] did accept. That will explain why I feel the way I do. It is not a simple matter of payment for the same in-use agreement with the pipeline. You see it one way, I see it another. I`ve had this type of thing happen to me, and I fought it...lost yes, but at least I fought. I hope they both keep fighting. It is what this country was built on. Personal property rights is an issue here. Not just the use of the land they need, but of more controll over that which they TAKE. Payment doesn`t compensate for THAT! If it did, then I still think it should be up to them to decide to accept or not.

Since: May 08

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#71 Dec 6, 2009
wingmaster wrote:
<quoted text>Just like my ultra covert 45 cal kimber. Small but with 8 rounds of full metal jacket flying at your azs. In other words stay off my land!
Never threaten, you know better, a gun owner must be above reproach or find his rights removed.

Sometimes its best to carry a lawyer, in any caliber.
wingmaster

Shiprock, NM

#72 Dec 6, 2009
pauline 2 wrote:
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Never threaten, you know better, a gun owner must be above reproach or find his rights removed.
Sometimes its best to carry a lawyer, in any caliber.
Gun or no gun try a move like this and someday people will be looking for you. The problem with today's to many lawyers. Every time someone farts it's a law suit. Not for me!
unwise latina

Minneapolis, MN

#73 Dec 6, 2009
Sotomayor Favors Legalized Theft Through Eminent Domain

It is already known that Barack Obama's Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor has used racist language to describe herself as more qualified than "white males." According to "Vote No on Sotomayor" (Wall Street Journal, July 24 2009, page A13), Sonia Sotomayor also, as a jurist on the Second Circuit, voted to sanction the moral and ethical equivalent of retail theft by price tag switching. This is strong language, but we invite our readers to tell us why it does not accurately describe the quoted material:

Judge Sotomayor also revealed a troubling approach to property rights in Didden v. Village of Port Chester (2006). Sitting on another Second Circuit panel, Judge Sotomayor voted to uphold the condemnation of the plaintiffs’ private property despite the obvious corruption surrounding the case. The plaintiffs’ only faced condemnation because they refused to pay off a politically connected developer. When they refused to pay, the city then condemned the land, declaring it for “public use.”
(More about Didden v. Village of Port Chester here)

http://www.israpundit.com/2008/...

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Tell Suzanne Kelo that; it IS theft. Then condemn Souter, Breyer, Stevens, Ginsburg and O'Connor. One of the worst decisions in the history of the USSC.
MN Observer

Saint Paul, MN

#74 Dec 6, 2009
BearManNorth wrote:
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Lord, you can`t figure THAT out. Read and comprehend WHY the landowner didn`t take the money, and the repercussions of what would happen if he [and his father] did accept. That will explain why I feel the way I do. It is not a simple matter of payment for the same in-use agreement with the pipeline. You see it one way, I see it another. I`ve had this type of thing happen to me, and I fought it...lost yes, but at least I fought. I hope they both keep fighting. It is what this country was built on. Personal property rights is an issue here. Not just the use of the land they need, but of more controll over that which they TAKE. Payment doesn`t compensate for THAT! If it did, then I still think it should be up to them to decide to accept or not.
Yes, they can figtht it, but I don't see why. The pipeline was there already, and Enbridge offered fair compensation (to us anyway) so yes, I still don't see what the problem is. I think it comes down to them wanting more money from Enbridge. Either that, or they are the type that like a fight. It would be interesting to get more specific information about this particular case.
The Golf Guy

Apopka, FL

#75 Dec 6, 2009
wingmaster wrote:
<quoted text>Just like my ultra covert 45 cal kimber. Small but with 8 rounds of full metal jacket flying at your azs. In other words stay off my land!
So you mean there is no 45 kimber? It's that little thing you carry in your pocket?

Since: May 08

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#76 Dec 7, 2009
wingmaster wrote:
<quoted text>Gun or no gun try a move like this and someday people will be looking for you. The problem with today's to many lawyers. Every time someone farts it's a law suit. Not for me!
Why would they be looking for me?

I don't like Kimbers. H&K shoot far better, of course the only reason to have a .45 is if you have the Thompson to go with it.

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