Man arrested for trespassing on his o...

Man arrested for trespassing on his own land

There are 69 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 4, 2009, titled Man arrested for trespassing on his own land. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A northwestern Wisconsin man who confronted a work crew building a pipeline across his land was Wednesday arrested for trespassing on his own property.

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Go figure

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Dec 4, 2009
why would he be arrested?
Smartass

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Dec 4, 2009
Dude why fight progress ? Big business gets to rob the small guy all the time. " For the better of the good for all " line.
ohyahhhh

Hudson, WI

#3 Dec 4, 2009
gestopo cop, thats why
jerry person

Danbury, WI

#4 Dec 4, 2009
Wisconsin a corporate ruled dictatorship. As a corporation they have the right to steal your property or anything they want. Wisconsin is corporation ruled. The judges are all bought by corporations. A court room in Wisconsin is called a brothel. The hooker wears a black robe. The hooker is like and evil spider . Anyone in the web is destroyed. The definition of judge in Wisconsin is child molester.
ABS

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Dec 4, 2009
I've got to think there is more to this story. Perhaps prior run-ins between the property owner and the workers? Maybe the court has already ruled that he can't interfere with the project? It'd be nice if there were more information given in this story.

On the other hand, it's entirely possible that ohyahhhh is right.
Shannon

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Dec 4, 2009
REALLY ??? On his own land !!
Dirty government

Stillwater, MN

#8 Dec 4, 2009
Javier wrote:
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Get some help moron. You are one sick individual, and you may be a threat to yourself and others.
I bet this story is not complete. Any reasonable officer would have checked the workers permit. If it is valid, the owner was obviously informed that such work would be taking place. If there has been an ongoing dispute, then something tells me that this guy is just PO'd that he didn't get rich for his "trouble". If thats not the case and the company just went ahead with the work without a valid permit, I hope he sues and wins. But in either case, you can't just confront workers and throw a hissy fit. You call the police and then sue the company.
Why dont you get the help, it is his property and the government has no right to take it thats not what the government was made for. The government works for us at least they are supposed to, instead they takke whats ours and dictate how we live and if you cant see how corrupt they are you are an even bigger moron..
Jeff O P

Hollywood, FL

#9 Dec 4, 2009
Just be glad it wasn't in Mexico or Central America!!! The corporation heads would have just hired the cops to have him shot.... end of problem. Anything can be done for a price. This country is getting just as bad. If you think you actually OWN your piece of land think again.
MN Observer

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Dec 4, 2009
There is much more to this story. Either the AP didn't do a good enough job or the Pioneer Press edited it down too much. Enbridge is currently building two pipelines across northern Minnesota and every land-owner has been compensated. It's possible this guy wasn't satisfied with the amount offered. To those of you that think they should not be allowed to build the pipeline, you better be driving a horse and buggy, because if you're driving an auto, you're part of this.
Wheres the facts

Chippewa Falls, WI

#11 Dec 4, 2009
Sounds like there is more to this story, as it was reported as a 'long running dispute'. My guess is that the proprty easement was taken for the good of the citizenry through eminent domain, and that this fellow still thought he should get more than what he got.
Can't blame him, but if it was approved throuh eminent domain he doesn't have many rights.
I wish more facts would have been reported to get a clearer picture of the whole story.
Not Surprised

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Dec 4, 2009
"The confrontation is the latest episode in a long-running dispute between Enbridge, Engelking and his father, who owns property next door."

Last sentence from the articles, for those of you that are convinced that more has happened between the parties involved.
Theresa

Chaska, MN

#13 Dec 4, 2009
Really people think! Do we really have any rights in this country? As a property owner, eminant domain rules and yu have no choice. Why does this surprise anyone? If he hadn't been compensated, they shouldn't have been there. I've dealt with the state before. It took about two years for me to get money for land they took from me. Progress isn't always a good thing.Look where progress has gotten us today
MN Observer

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Dec 4, 2009
This guy's property is not being taken. The pipeline is four feet underground. You can farm over it. The easement for this pipeline makes a whole lot more sense than siezing someone's house to build a retial/commercial complex, which was being done until the recession hit.
MN Observer

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Dec 4, 2009
If anyone would like more information on this story:
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/articl...
Not Surprised

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Dec 4, 2009
MN Observer wrote:
This guy's property is not being taken. The pipeline is four feet underground. You can farm over it. The easement for this pipeline makes a whole lot more sense than siezing someone's house to build a retial/commercial complex, which was being done until the recession hit.
I absolutely agree with your comment, but I also have to say that I feel in any case, a landowner should be notified of what, when and how something will be done on their property. I'm not saying that this wasn't done in this particular case, just that it should be done.
Sarah D

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Dec 4, 2009
Here is a much more complete account:

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/articl...

It's a much more complicated issue, one that will probably make a great deal of money for lawyers.
Go figure

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Dec 4, 2009
i guess we should be happy, in the 70's they would condemn land and call it a watershed and gave the land owners nothing but the rules of what they could no longer do on their land (minnehaha watershed)at least now they have to be given some type of compensation
BearManNorth

AOL

#19 Dec 4, 2009
MN Observer wrote:
There is much more to this story. Either the AP didn't do a good enough job or the Pioneer Press edited it down too much. Enbridge is currently building two pipelines across northern Minnesota and every land-owner has been compensated. It's possible this guy wasn't satisfied with the amount offered. To those of you that think they should not be allowed to build the pipeline, you better be driving a horse and buggy, because if you're driving an auto, you're part of this.
Along with a compensation payment to both him and his father [they own a substantial piece of land next to each other], came some new rules and provisions by which the corp. big shots, can gain more controll than before over the "right-of-way', as per the original agreement years ago. Both the son and his father have been fighting that for years, and would not accept the payments, because it ment forgoing the orginal deal, and put even MORE limitations on what the land owner could do with his own property. It also would have ment allowing the corp. to EXPAND the "right-of-way" in the future...with no boundaries. I can`t blame them one bit.

As for the arrest... As I see it, the excavators and builders should have been shut down first, and if anything impounded, it should have been that equiptment they were using on his property without permission. The workers should have been told to leave the job sight untill a court order worked it out, or THEY should have been arrested..not the land owner. The law, and it`s enforcers are beginning to act in a military mannor these days, forgetting the rights of private citizens, in favor of the corp. structure and it`s controll over the common man.

This type of action, is only part of what is leading up to the next armed revolution in this country. Look back through even recent history, and it is repeated over and over again, that the common man will have at some point had enough, and act on it. Mainly because there is no other way to do things, when the law and how to change a law, is stacked against the common man. Our own revolution and formation our own country is a good example of that.

I hope this mans actions is a wake up call to those that sit back and have NO IDEA what is going on...a lot of these postings prove how clueless the public is, as they let others take it up the butt. Of course, they SHOULD stop and think [I realize it`s hard for many to do] that THEY could be next in line.
BearManNorth

AOL

#20 Dec 4, 2009
MN Observer wrote:
This guy's property is not being taken. The pipeline is four feet underground. You can farm over it. The easement for this pipeline makes a whole lot more sense than siezing someone's house to build a retial/commercial complex, which was being done until the recession hit.
Sorry to say, you are not right about what is happening. Read my other posting.
jmanuel

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Dec 4, 2009
This is another example of how big business runs over small land owners. Unfortunately, no matter how right Mr. Engleking is and can have the courts rule for him, Enbridge can continue to appeal and hold this up in court until he runs out of money. Hopefully the court will stop Enbridge from building until he has received some compensation.

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