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# Wind power is blowing our way

There are 10 comments on the Newsday story from Sep 28, 2008, titled Wind power is blowing our way. In it, Newsday reports that:

The winds of change may be returning to New York 's energy landscape. There were three signs this month that things are starting to blow in the right direction for clean and renewable energy.

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GogreenGetreal
#1 Sep 28, 2008
At www.scitizen.com , Kurt Cobb worked the numbers. Generously, he presumed the windmills would use 5-megawatt turbines â generating three times the output of a typical 1.5-megawatt turbine. He compared that with a 500-megawatt fossil-fuel (coal) power plant needed to power a city of 300,000 people. A typical power plant, he noted, would cover 300 acres, but use only 30 of those for the actual facility.
Cobb calculated it would take 233 5-megawatt wind turbines to equal the coal plant's output, since the wind doesn't blow constantly. Each would need to be spaced 2,065 feet away from the others (five times the diameter of their 413-foot rotors). Adding the rotor diameters to the spacing requirement equates to a 110-mile long line of windmills, half a mile in width.
It comes to 55 square miles. That's to provide electricity for a town of 300,000 people.
New York City has 8.1 million residents. Manhattan Island totals 23 square miles. So, based on Cobb's calculations, it would take six and a half Manhattan Islands, each covered totally with windmills, to power one-tenth of New York City. And if standard 1.5-megawatt wind turbines were used, they would take three times more space.
Mayor Bloomberg's vision is flawed. But it's typical of the pie-in-the-sky energy "solutions" suggested by those who would rather "go green" than "get real."
If we wanted to meet the electric needs of 300 million Americans rather than only 300,000, we'd need a half-mile swath of windmills, each of them hundreds of feet high, 110,000 miles long, crisscrossing the continent 40 times between New York City and Los Angeles.
That's a lot of land to condemn. The cost would be in the hundreds of billions of dollars, since each large windmill costs millions.
National Wind Watch calculates that wind power consumes an average of 50 acres per megawatt when you include the need to remove trees in the vicinity. On that basis, powering America with wind means we'd have to cover Nebraska with wall-to-wall windmills, leaving no room to grow corn.
ChristmasTree
#2 Sep 28, 2008
Said it before, will say it again, if it's not good enought for Senator 'Lefty'Kennedy, it's not good enough for us! Buy a toy spinner at the fair, blow on it until tired, then stop and turn on the light, period.
Tide Runner
#3 Sep 28, 2008
It's funny how they hated it yesterday, they love it today.... Jerks !!!
Sandy
#4 Sep 28, 2008
Tide Runner wrote:
It's funny how they hated it yesterday, they love it today.... Jerks !!!
follow the money and you will have your answer! It is always about the money and always will be! Gather up all the politicians and boy will you have some wind and hot air!
Tide Runner
#5 Sep 28, 2008
Sandy wrote:
<quoted text>follow the money and you will have your answer! It is always about the money and always will be! Gather up all the politicians and boy will you have some wind and hot air!
I call it a Run out of Option type Prayer... The forcasters were way off...We now have a real unsolveable in the near future problem... Plus the immigration problem and way too much Govt... Comes in 3s... This came in alls !!!
Realist
#6 Sep 28, 2008
If anyone thinks it's a good thing to have Richard "Hand out the Cash" Kessel involved they've been in a long coma.
We cannot solve energy issues by ignoring the real solutions such as modernizing plants and nuclear in favor of boutique feel-good boondoggles like wind.
Tide Runner
#7 Sep 28, 2008
Maybe if we can get mice to grow bigger, they can generate power ??? They seem to run around that wheel 24, 7 !!!

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Since: Sep 08

#8 Sep 28, 2008
This was shared with me by a fellow from up around the Utica area and I thought to share it with you
http://www.wktv.com/news/local/18005229.html

“6 of one, 0110 of the other.”

Since: Feb 08

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#9 Sep 28, 2008
We could have able-bodied welfare & unemployment recipients spin the blades on calm days.
Wrecked Um
#10 Sep 28, 2008
Slimey wrote:
We could have able-bodied welfare & unemployment recipients spin the blades on calm days.
Or get the pensioned-off LIRR engineers to get in on it.

On windy days, strap a few illegals on and fling them back to wherever they came from.

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