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Heat blankets U.S. as workers return after holiday

There are 32 comments on the Brattleboro Reformer story from Jul 6, 2010, titled Heat blankets U.S. as workers return after holiday. In it, Brattleboro Reformer reports that:

With a scorching holiday weekend in the rearview mirror, a real summer sizzle is about to wash over parts of the United States.

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brk

Springfield, MA

#1 Jul 6, 2010
it is summer.
it gets hot in the summer.
duh.

or, should we have a czar for that? heat czar. any evil capitalist who dare sell water if it is over 95 degrees shall be taxed 95% on any evil profits gained, from the heat. so says the heat czar. and as for you greedy people with air conditioners....

thank you entergy, for keeping our lights on, and our ac...ssshhhh....
I Vote Vermont

West Wardsboro, VT

#2 Jul 6, 2010
This isn't boding well for efforts in conservation. Global Warming? Probably not, but experts say it's on the way.
flat lander

United States

#3 Jul 6, 2010
Al Gore was right
Molly

Ellsworth, ME

#4 Jul 6, 2010
This past winter, everybody said Al Gore was wrong because it was one hard winter. Now everybody says Al Gore is right because of an exceedingly hot summer. Poor Al Gore. Can anybody ever make up their mind?
Hypocrisy Nation

Westland, MI

#5 Jul 6, 2010
brk wrote:
it is summer.
it gets hot in the summer.
duh.
Well, it has actually broken all time heat records for days this Summer thus far. Including today.

Duh.

Does this mean its part of climate change? Who knows for certain, but it does suck!
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#6 Jul 7, 2010
Today or tomorrow, surely by the end of the week, that is when the under ground electrical cables will start to burn up?
The More You Know PhD

Gardiner, ME

#7 Jul 7, 2010
Mike Mulligan wrote:
Today or tomorrow, surely by the end of the week, that is when the under ground electrical cables will start to burn up?
I look forward to your retraction and apology when these "underground cables" don't "burn up."
Ghostcrawler

Bratislava, Slovakia

#8 Jul 7, 2010
Al Gore is right in the summer and wrong in the winter.
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#9 Jul 7, 2010
The More You Know PhD wrote:
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I look forward to your retraction and apology when these "underground cables" don't "burn up."
They are trying to save the feeder cables?

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/coned.power.heat...

Jul 7, 2010 12:52 pm US/Eastern
ConEd Reduces Power To Brooklyn, Queens
The More You Know PhD

Gardiner, ME

#10 Jul 7, 2010
Mike Mulligan wrote:
They are trying to save the feeder cables?
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/coned.power.heat...
Jul 7, 2010 12:52 pm US/Eastern
ConEd Reduces Power To Brooklyn, Queens
If you are trying to imply that you can put too much load through a cable or transformer and damage it, you are correct. High temps or low temps or unit outages or congestion can all lead to this.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power_t...

"The amount of power that can be sent over a transmission line is limited. The origins of the limits vary depending on the length of the line. For a short line, the heating of conductors due to line losses sets a thermal limit. If too much current is drawn, conductors may sag too close to the ground, or conductors and equipment may be damaged by overheating."

Again, you aren't discovering anything new or some sort of cover-up or impending crisis. You need to get over yourself and maybe you can do something useful with all that pent up energy.
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#11 Jul 7, 2010
Having sex would do the trick too.
The More You Know PhD

Gardiner, ME

#12 Jul 7, 2010
Mike Mulligan wrote:
Having sex would do the trick too.
Sorry, I can't help you with that :)
estanson

Windsor, VT

#13 Jul 7, 2010
Molly wrote:
This past winter, everybody said Al Gore was wrong because it was one hard winter. Now everybody says Al Gore is right because of an exceedingly hot summer. Poor Al Gore. Can anybody ever make up their mind?
its a crack up that folks try to interpret million year trends by a season...
and one thing gore isnt is poor...
Ghostcrawler

Bratislava, Slovakia

#14 Jul 7, 2010
estanson wrote:
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its a crack up that folks try to interpret million year trends by a season...
and one thing gore isnt is poor...
Million-year trends? Not quite Bill Nye the science guy, I see.
estanson

Windsor, VT

#15 Jul 7, 2010
Ghostcrawler wrote:
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Million-year trends? Not quite Bill Nye the science guy, I see.
The age of the Earth is around 4.54 billion years.
in order to show trends of significance, what time frame do you suggest?
Ghostcrawler

Bratislava, Slovakia

#16 Jul 7, 2010
estanson wrote:
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The age of the Earth is around 4.54 billion years.
in order to show trends of significance, what time frame do you suggest?
Given that the last glacial period ended less than 20 thousand years ago, I think suggesting a "million-year trend" is a bit over the top.
estanson

Windsor, VT

#17 Jul 7, 2010
Ghostcrawler wrote:
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Given that the last glacial period ended less than 20 thousand years ago, I think suggesting a "million-year trend" is a bit over the top.
even when its a cycle?

wouldnt we want to interpret a few cycles to see the trend?
sounds like I'm kinda close...

back to you "science guy"...
Ghostcrawler

Bratislava, Slovakia

#18 Jul 7, 2010
estanson wrote:
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even when its a cycle?
wouldnt we want to interpret a few cycles to see the trend?
sounds like I'm kinda close...
back to you "science guy"...
Maybe it was a long time since you were in college, but in Statistics 101 you learn that a trend is a long term movement in a given time series. That is to say, a trend is an underlying tendency, up or down, in a set of data over a period of time.

You're referring to the cyclical nature of the global climate, known in statistics as a cyclical component, which is used to describe established fluctuations in a given series.

Now, if you wanted to make a linear series by assigning incrementing values to successive sets of non-seasonal cyclical fluctuations, you would be able to demonstrate a trend in an upward direction, and probably confuse a lot of people. I'm going to go ahead and guess that the argument you were actually looking for is the following:

"The current warming trend in Earth's global climate appears to be part of a cycle, and cannot necessarily be attributed entirely to human activity."

To which I would have responded, "I agree with your assessment of the data."
estanson

Windsor, VT

#19 Jul 7, 2010
Ghostcrawler wrote:
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Maybe it was a long time since you were in college, but in Statistics 101 you learn that a trend is a long term movement in a given time series. That is to say, a trend is an underlying tendency, up or down, in a set of data over a period of time.
You're referring to the cyclical nature of the global climate, known in statistics as a cyclical component, which is used to describe established fluctuations in a given series.
Now, if you wanted to make a linear series by assigning incrementing values to successive sets of non-seasonal cyclical fluctuations, you would be able to demonstrate a trend in an upward direction, and probably confuse a lot of people. I'm going to go ahead and guess that the argument you were actually looking for is the following:
"The current warming trend in Earth's global climate appears to be part of a cycle, and cannot necessarily be attributed entirely to human activity."
To which I would have responded, "I agree with your assessment of the data."
never took statistics so its new to me...and i might well be butchering the techical jargon...
point well taken...

can a trend not be up or down but cyclical?
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#20 Jul 7, 2010
I am not worrying about Global Warming, I worry about how we all lie...keep secrets... about the production and use of energy.

We got to have enforced standardized language talking anything anything energy...a truth and transparency commission!

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