Dozens arrested during protest of Duke coal plant

Dozens of protesters, including a Sylva man, were arrested Monday near Duke Energy's headquarters as they called on the company to halt construction of a coal-fired power plant in Rutherford County. Full Story
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York, SC

#1 Apr 21, 2009
Bush's mess!
Keith former Gun-bunny

United States

#2 Apr 21, 2009
I would at least want to be respected enough to wear the infamous braclett instead of a piece of plastic if arrested.
mtnbear

United States

#3 Apr 21, 2009
I hope these protesters live what they preach and don't go home and throw the light switch on that's connected to a utility.

OTHERWISE THEY'RE JUST HYPOCRITES.

“Conservative for America”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#4 Apr 21, 2009
Just thrilled the PC police didn't feel intimidated and were able to arrest them. We know publicity was their goal and there was no best solution. Too bad their punishment can't be to do community service working to help build the new plant. Irony would just be dripping from that ruling.
CJOHNNY

Carolina Beach, NC

#5 Apr 21, 2009
mtnbear wrote:
I hope these protesters live what they preach and don't go home and throw the light switch on that's connected to a utility.
OTHERWISE THEY'RE JUST HYPOCRITES.
Oh that don't count. LOL
nctxnc

Greer, SC

#6 Apr 21, 2009
Tear down the coal fired plant and replace with nuclear. Clean, non-polluting fuel.

Since: Nov 08

The Mountains of WNC

#7 Apr 21, 2009
yona wrote:
Just thrilled the PC police didn't feel intimidated and were able to arrest them. We know publicity was their goal and there was no best solution. Too bad their punishment can't be to do community service working to help build the new plant. Irony would just be dripping from that ruling.
Yona, those protesters do have a valid point. Coal-fired plants are polluters. The fact the the Division of Air Quality has said the pollution produced by the plant will be reduced, it would still appear that Duke is not paying attention to the fact that not everyone in the area of the plant is healthy. Some have breathing problems, which is what the concern is about. It would seem that Duke might have considered a nuclear plant, which of course, in its own way, is dangerous, too. I don't think there is a perfect solution to the problem. If we're going to have electricity, then I guess everyone is going to have to put up with whatever it takes to generate it. I like the idea of wind farms, personally.
alekas

Elmhurst, IL

#8 Apr 21, 2009
Wiley Coyote wrote:
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Yona, those protesters do have a valid point. Coal-fired plants are polluters. The fact the the Division of Air Quality has said the pollution produced by the plant will be reduced, it would still appear that Duke is not paying attention to the fact that not everyone in the area of the plant is healthy. Some have breathing problems, which is what the concern is about. It would seem that Duke might have considered a nuclear plant, which of course, in its own way, is dangerous, too. I don't think there is a perfect solution to the problem. If we're going to have electricity, then I guess everyone is going to have to put up with whatever it takes to generate it. I like the idea of wind farms, personally.
Wiley,
Point or not, why are the protestors out against a company that, no doubt, went through a permitting process that gave it the go ahead to start construction. Duke did not arbitrarily select a spot and start building, did they? Of course, not; some agency or agencies, probably multiple layers, went over the plan and approved it.

Seems the protestors' ire is misdirected; why don't they march on the approving agencies and demand that the state take purposeful steps toward replacing coal-fired plants? I hate to say it, but the likely answer is that the protestors are just as adamantly opposed to any of the alternatives as they are to this plant. They are surely against drilling off the coast; they break into hives at the mere mention of nuclear; and, they don't appear to champion anything else in a concrete manner.

Not to be contrary, but if breathing problems in the populace are a stumbling block, is any place okay for building? Seriously, how difficult would it be for the anti forces to bring forward at least a few human mascots who may or may not have bona fide troubles? Back to the main point, this is misdirected protest; the protestors know it but most of them don't think we know it.
StillJealous

Raleigh, NC

#9 Apr 21, 2009
Build more nuclear plants! Get a grip people!

“Conservative for America”

Since: Apr 07

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#10 Apr 21, 2009
Wiley Coyote wrote:
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Yona, those protesters do have a valid point. Coal-fired plants are polluters. The fact the the Division of Air Quality has said the pollution produced by the plant will be reduced, it would still appear that Duke is not paying attention to the fact that not everyone in the area of the plant is healthy. Some have breathing problems, which is what the concern is about. It would seem that Duke might have considered a nuclear plant, which of course, in its own way, is dangerous, too. I don't think there is a perfect solution to the problem. If we're going to have electricity, then I guess everyone is going to have to put up with whatever it takes to generate it. I like the idea of wind farms, personally.
I'm in total agreement. Personally I can't see an upside to the effort, waste, and pollution from a coal plant. I do think nuclear is the interim way to go. Eventually, when the technology catches up we could find higher efficiency means for drawing power from water. We could incorporate wind where reasonable. Geothermal is an option.

My beef with the protesters is that they want to stop something but fail to have a realistic proposal to offer as an alternative. Just saying no didn't work for drugs and it wont work for power. Your thoughts?
Badger

United States

#11 Apr 21, 2009
Nothing will change in terms of energy problems until we all take the pledge to cut back our usage.

Public buildings that are so over air conditioned that you have to wear long sleeves when it's 90 degrees outside. Running dishwashers that are only half full. Using heat producing appliances unthinkingly.

I know a family who lives "off the grid". They have a computer and other electrical things. They also have solar panels and watch their consumption of electrical energy quite closely. Let's all take action now before we HAVE to take action later.

Since: Nov 08

The Mountains of WNC

#12 Apr 21, 2009
yona wrote:
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I'm in total agreement. Personally I can't see an upside to the effort, waste, and pollution from a coal plant. I do think nuclear is the interim way to go. Eventually, when the technology catches up we could find higher efficiency means for drawing power from water. We could incorporate wind where reasonable. Geothermal is an option.
My beef with the protesters is that they want to stop something but fail to have a realistic proposal to offer as an alternative. Just saying no didn't work for drugs and it wont work for power. Your thoughts?
Yona, your point is well taken. Most protestors cannot or will not offer an alternate solution, they just protest the one currently in place. Another poster suggested that the protest was wrongly-placed, that it should have been before the agencies granting licenses for the plant, and I agree.

I think that it is incumbent on energy providers to seek alternative ways to provide power, including water, wind farms, geothermal, and solar. I have not seen or heard recently of any company or the government being particularly interested in doing that. T.Boone Pickens was the last, and he was promoting his wind farm idea during the election year. I don't know what happened, that idea seems to have dropped off the map. I do think Duke might have reconsidered the coal idea and given more consideration to nuclear. I suspect they knew the coal-fired plant would draw protests. Research into alternate sources of power is vital if our kids and grandkids are going to enjoy the benefits of moderately priced electricity that you and I have had.
Jim Greenwood

AOL

#13 Apr 21, 2009
Coal fired power plants CAN be more environmentally friendly. The installation of scrubbers significantly reduces pollution.
Why won't they install these devices? Because it cuts into their bottom line. It's paramount that the EPA force these companies to install said devices.
kingnc

United States

#14 Apr 21, 2009
The cops should have beat the protestors to within an inch of their lives. What scummy looking trash. They should not be allowed to exist.
Jim Greenwood

AOL

#15 Apr 21, 2009
kingnc wrote:
The cops should have beat the protestors to within an inch of their lives. What scummy looking trash. They should not be allowed to exist.
I know of at least one protester that should be "allowed to exist". He's a veteran of Nam, he's paid his dues. What say you?

Since: Nov 08

The Mountains of WNC

#16 Apr 21, 2009
Jim Greenwood wrote:
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I know of at least one protester that should be "allowed to exist". He's a veteran of Nam, he's paid his dues. What say you?
Jim,unless you and I are thinking of the same man, I know one who's a Nam vet, too. The poster who is urging "beating the protestors within an inch of their life" is either one of the most ignorant people on the planet or one of the most dangerous, or both. One should NEVER promote police brutality.
joe

Asheville, NC

#17 Apr 21, 2009
I think a better choice is to build more and better plants. As the new ones come online turn the old ones off. This way polution is really reduced.

The issue that hurts most protesters is they are all or nothing type people.
Jim Greenwood

AOL

#18 Apr 21, 2009
Wiley Coyote wrote:
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Jim,unless you and I are thinking of the same man, I know one who's a Nam vet, too. The poster who is urging "beating the protestors within an inch of their life" is either one of the most ignorant people on the planet or one of the most dangerous, or both. One should NEVER promote police brutality.
BW?

“Think before you write!”

Since: Nov 08

United States

#19 Apr 21, 2009
yona wrote:
My beef with the protesters is that they want to stop something but fail to have a realistic proposal to offer as an alternative. Just saying no didn't work for drugs and it wont work for power. Your thoughts?
I've always learned that "you can't knock somebody's idea unless you propose at least two alternatives". Your gripe towards the protesters is valid, as many protesters of "this thing" or "that thing" have little to say in "the land of alternatives", and only lots to say in "the land of anti-your-idea".

But then, sigh..., I suppose this could be generalized in many ways to encompass the methods employed in these online discussions by many folks, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised too much by this case.

“Think before you write!”

Since: Nov 08

United States

#20 Apr 21, 2009
kingnc wrote:
The cops should have beat the protestors to within an inch of their lives. What scummy looking trash. They should not be allowed to exist.
I suppose you need to send out the cops to my place, since I disagree with you (ie: I'm protesting against what you propose).

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