Daylight saving may be a waste of ene...

Daylight saving may be a waste of energy, study says

There are 20 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Feb 28, 2008, titled Daylight saving may be a waste of energy, study says. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

For decades, conventional wisdom has held that daylight-saving time, which begins March 9, reduces energy use.

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maria

Erie, PA

#1 Mar 3, 2008
Why have daylight savings time when we have
computers when people can work from home
have flexitime ??

We're going backwords.
Eddies Drinking Again

Baltimore, MD

#2 Mar 3, 2008
"In 2005, Reps. Edward J. Markey of Massachusetts and Fred Upton of Michigan drafted legislation that would extend daylight-saving time nationwide. Congress approved the amendment, which called for clocks to be sprung forward a week earlier in the spring and to be set back three weeks later in the fall. The change went into effect last year."

This is wrong. We are springing forward 3 weeks earlier in the spring and falling back one week later in the fall.
Daylighter - NOT

Washington, DC

#3 Mar 3, 2008
Just as we are beginning to see sunlight when we get off the train, we are going once again be plunged into darkness. It doesn't matter when we change...I hate daylight savings time.
Big Daddy

United States

#4 Mar 3, 2008
Having the extra hour in the evening is well worth it.
jpp

Parkville, MD

#5 Mar 3, 2008
Daylighter - NOT wrote:
Just as we are beginning to see sunlight when we get off the train, we are going once again be plunged into darkness. It doesn't matter when we change...I hate daylight savings time.
We spring forward and fall back, so it's actually lighter for an extra hour after work. I'm all for it, I hate it when it gets dark at 6.
Ed in Frederick

San Francisco, CA

#6 Mar 3, 2008
Daylight saving time is good for children. It increases practice time for sports and other activities. Having it get light early in the morning does nothing for kids or adults. As for the study it will be hot and cool regardless so what's the difference.
Critter

Hampstead, MD

#8 Mar 3, 2008
If Indiana were in the correct time zone, this wouldn't be near as much of a problem for the residents of the state, if any at all. When most counties in Indiana didn't switch, the counties staying on standard time were actually on Central Daylight Time during summer.

The Central Time Zone should extend from 82.5 W longitude to 97.5 W longitude. 82.5 W longitude is east of Columbus, Ohio (Whitehall, Ohio [10 miles east of Columbus] is at 82°, 53" W longitude). 97.5 W longitude is in central Kansas. ALL of Indiana is WEST of the proper placement of the dividing line between Eastern and Central Time Zones, more than 110 miles west.

There's a reason that Baltimore is in the Eastern Time Zone and not in the Atlantic Time Zone (the time zone just east of the Eastern Time Zone)- Baltimore is WEST of that time zone.

Switch Indiana to Central Time, then compare the energy usage, but not just summer electricity use, but year-round TOTAL energy use (gasoline, natural gas, etc.).
Joshua Hlopko

United States

#9 Mar 3, 2008
I am so excited. I with it was daylight saving time all year long. Energy wasted or not. I will be able to get so much more done in my day again.
Steev

Baltimore, MD

#10 Mar 3, 2008
"Daylight saving time is good for children. It increases practice time for sports and other activities."

What? Just children? Why single them out? If we all played sports and exercised after work, maybe we wouldn't be spending so much of our GDP on health care treating hypertension, diabetes, joint pain, yada yada...

“Obama 2008”

Since: Feb 08

Mohnton, PA

#11 Mar 3, 2008
My kids have more time for play...
I can get so much more done with an extra hour of daylight...
Wah, I hate it when it gets dark early...

Supposedly, these are arguments in favor of daylight savings time--ridiculous. The sun shines the same amount whether DST is in effect or not. Have any of these folks considered waking up an hour earlier and taking advantage of the "extra" hour of daylight that way? Or would that push "Dancing with the Stars" past their bedtime?
tina

Columbus, MS

#12 Mar 3, 2008
very informative, was more than I was looking for but wonderful!
curtis

Reno, NV

#13 Mar 4, 2008
In Hawaii, where you dont change from standard time.
The only difference is that when calling long distance to the mainland you have to be cognizant of DST as the time is usually 2,3,4 or 5 hrs in DST it is 3,4,5 or 6 hrs.ahead of you!
Sandy

Argyle, TX

#14 Mar 4, 2008
Gee I remember going to the drive in at 9:00 pm in the summer because it was too light before then and we didn't have DST. That was in the 60's. Now I hear kids playing in the streets after 10 when they should be home.
Anne

Grass Valley, CA

#15 Mar 4, 2008
Great article. I think it is time to get rid of Daylight Savings Time. It was a way to industrialize all of us and it isn't needed any more.

I personally love the morning daylight hours and resent having to give them up. Exercising in the morning is optimum for metabolism. Most people in the evening don't use the time for exercise.
divadsfc

Glendale, CA

#16 Mar 4, 2008
why not just use the chinese calendar and modify it when it is neccessary. It seems to better because it get modify each year according to the "........"
Geekner

United States

#17 Mar 4, 2008
I couldn't agree more. Standard Time should be in place from early October until early May. Seven months of Standard, five months of Daylight time.
Of course that would cut out the March, April and October months of DST, but what we get back is earlier daylight in the morning. Daylight time is really only beneficial in the true months of "solar summer," which starts in early May and ends in August. Since summer activities tend to persist into late September-early October, that would be the time to end it. Of course, many might disagree with my viewpoint...but the alternative...staying on Standard Time year round will never fly. Those states that have already figured out the benefits of NOT observing DST are already ahead of the curve. Bravo to Arizona, Hawaii and the Canadian province of Saskatchewan for keeping their clocks on STANDARD time!
Geekner

United States

#18 Mar 4, 2008
Just a quick followup. The current law that was imposed on us starting last year needs to be adjusted again.
DST start date should start being observed the first Sunday in May and to end the first Sunday in October. Standard time then returns for a 7 month period, first Sunday in October until the first Sunday in May.
Areas that are in the western part of their respective time zones have and will continue to have very late sunrises especially in March and October. For early risers, including students going to school, it means deep twilight or total darkness.
I understand the so called "economic benefits" and "reduced crime" and "lower accident rate" when the extra hour is pushed into the evening. Every lobbying group ranging from golf courses, retail malls and convenience stores, even the candy companies...for Halloween helped to push through the new law. But, it is apparent now that "energy savings" wasn't one of them.
And some states are in the wrong time zone, such as Michigan, Indiana and even the state of Maine. Perhaps re-aligning the time zone boundaries..to a point further east, may help communities. Who needs a post 7.45 to 8.15am sunrise? That's what will happen starting this Sunday.
I realize morning daylight will eventually return by late March, but then we get into the same problem starting in mid to late September, and it gets much worse during October and the first few days of November. Not as much of an issue in Maryland/Virginia where we are actually midpoint in the assigned time zone...75th Meridian Time, or EST.
Kevin

Simpsonville, MD

#19 Mar 4, 2008
We're lemmings; that's all it is. To say nothing of the less-than-negligible "energy savings" from DST, has anyone considered the effects of Seasonal Affective Disorder (appropriately, SAD)? I don't remember anyone getting SAD when I was a kid; now we hear about it all the time -- especially when the time changes throw us into sudden darkness at one end of the season or the other. What was a sunny drive to work last week will be back in the pitch blackness next week. I notice that when the last major hairball was hacked up, the only people really enthused about it were sellers of outdoor recreational equipment. Well, not entirely true: Candy makers were all for it. I have no idea why: Unless we push DST into November, Halloween will always fall into standard time, since October 31 can never come sooner than the last Sunday in October, when we return the clocks to normal.
Lou

Chula Vista, CA

#20 Mar 5, 2008
It's interesting to see how opinions on this matter seem to be divided between those who are morning people and others who are more productive in the evening. However, there is a definate air of superiority in the tone of the comments of those who getting things done at the crack of dawn. Both arguments are equally justified, we just dont need the condesention.
Peter

Burbank, CA

#21 Mar 10, 2008
Further to Critter's comments above, Indiana has a problem (I live here). It's a genetic problem - resistance to change. Until two years ago, this farming state did not participate in DST. The new Governor pushed it through the legislature with the assumption that the time zone would change as well. Opps! Turns out the the Commerce Department has a say in this one - and nobody moved off dead center. So our EST clock time, about 53 minutes out of sync with the sun, is now close to 2 hours off with DST. I'm a DST fan only if i'm standing on my shadow for about six months.

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