Cost of natural gas going up

Cost of natural gas going up

There are 131 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Jul 18, 2008, titled Cost of natural gas going up. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

Consider what you paid last winter, and then increase that by 30 to 40 percent. Gas company officials admit it is going to be a "challenging winter" at the end of the year.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan.

Batch37 Pain Is Good

United States

#103 Aug 5, 2008
Drill for it here in this State. We are loaded with it.

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#104 Aug 5, 2008
I happened to go by the wells near Reed City last week and they were still just burning off that "Waste Gas" from the wells. Maybe it's not "economically feasible" to collect and use that gas yet.

Since: Jul 08

San Jose, CA

#105 Aug 5, 2008
Hurley35 wrote:
I happened to go by the wells near Reed City last week and they were still just burning off that "Waste Gas" from the wells. Maybe it's not "economically feasible" to collect and use that gas yet.
The problem is that there has to be X amount of pressure to move the gas down the pipe.

On my father-in-law land there is a capped gas pipe. There was not enough pressure to move it down a pipe but there was enough for him to purchase an order inserter and use the gas to run every thing in his ouse.

“oh yes she did!!”

Since: Aug 08

Manistique

#106 Aug 5, 2008
Cost of natural gas going up? Really???<ahem, sarcasm>
Guess we all better get a large amount of K-Y jelly stocked up. Just one more thing we are getting reamed for. Holy shi........

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#107 Aug 5, 2008
Zchief wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is that there has to be X amount of pressure to move the gas down the pipe.
On my father-in-law land there is a capped gas pipe. There was not enough pressure to move it down a pipe but there was enough for him to purchase an order inserter and use the gas to run every thing in his ouse.
Well, I'm not a oil or natural gas expert but I can't see any reason why they can't capture that gas and increase the pressure so it can't move down the pipe. Would that be any different than using booster stations for water pressure?
jaf1997

United States

#108 Aug 5, 2008
If you have had your head in the sand and been taking your "sunshine & lollipop pill" you are in for a rude awakening!! While "we the people" go into ever increasing debt, when you vote this year just remember our "elected officals" in Washington who turned out the lights & left till September. Remember Nancy Pelosi who "REFUSED" to debate over opening new areas to drilling & exploration before taking a break! Give US a break! Why are we not protesting? Why are we not marching on Washington DEMANDING action? Because we have lost & given up the fight & right to hold our elected officals accountable for their actions(or as it is today inaction). They are all in the big D. DENIAL! Time to rise up, take action given in our constitution to peacefully assemble & demonstrate.It is way past time we use our rights before we lose them forever! Hey Washington, have you forgot what "by the people, for the people means"? If you do not understand our constitution, you are fired! I thank God I can say "Jesus come quickly"!

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: May 08

Grandville

#109 Aug 8, 2008
You want lower energy costs? THen vote against the green weenies, the global warming con men, and the liberal left.

Explore, drill, refine, utilize nuke power, develop new tech. develop alternative fuels, and use energy wisely. Most important of these is... vote the left out of power.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: May 08

Grandville

#110 Aug 8, 2008
jaf1997 wrote:
If you have had your head in the sand and been taking your "sunshine & lollipop pill" you are in for a rude awakening!! While "we the people" go into ever increasing debt, when you vote this year just remember our "elected officals" in Washington who turned out the lights & left till September. Remember Nancy Pelosi who "REFUSED" to debate over opening new areas to drilling & exploration before taking a break! Give US a break! Why are we not protesting? Why are we not marching on Washington DEMANDING action? Because we have lost & given up the fight & right to hold our elected officals accountable for their actions(or as it is today inaction). They are all in the big D. DENIAL! Time to rise up, take action given in our constitution to peacefully assemble & demonstrate.It is way past time we use our rights before we lose them forever! Hey Washington, have you forgot what "by the people, for the people means"? If you do not understand our constitution, you are fired! I thank God I can say "Jesus come quickly"!
Newsflash... the Democrats haven't given a flying rats (butt) about "we the people" since 1963.
jaf1997

United States

#111 Aug 12, 2008
RMRK wrote:
<quoted text>
Newsflash... the Democrats haven't given a flying rats (butt) about "we the people" since 1963.
LOL!! Yup, time to march on Washinton and say "YOUR FIRED"!
Julie

Loveland, CO

#112 Aug 14, 2008
I am with you.. we plan to eat the family dawg around mid January when the full effects of these increases make it so we can no longer afford the food. In fact my neighbor has a nice fat one, we will save him till march..
We have bought the kids all new blankets, they can just stay in bed when they are not in school... AHHH life is grand here in the old USA'
hollander wrote:
Thanks, Gail. Very good point. We really have gotten way too dawg eat dawg. Either hang together or hang individually. Ben Franklin quote? We do need to work together. We all have to conserve more & elect reps who are not in the pockets of energy or any other types of special interests. Cheap energy has made us addicts. Many others around the world now want our standard of living & the supplies of resources will be strained. Prices, therefore, will go up. Use it more wisely. Do not use natural gas for electricity. Use coal or nuclear, & use less of it. A start.
Jim B

Loveland, CO

#113 Aug 14, 2008
Do you actually think that would make the prices go down?? I am still waiting for all of these great prices we were promised to support outsourcing, and hey what about all these produce prices that were going to be lower because we allowed the illegals to come here to work.
I"M STILL WAITING..........
RMRK wrote:
You want lower energy costs? THen vote against the green weenies, the global warming con men, and the liberal left.
Explore, drill, refine, utilize nuke power, develop new tech. develop alternative fuels, and use energy wisely. Most important of these is... vote the left out of power.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: May 08

Grandville

#114 Aug 16, 2008
jaf1997 wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!! Yup, time to march on Washinton and say "YOUR FIRED"!
Wouldn't that be nice? I say we start with Sen. Debbie Stab-Us-Now and Sen. Leave (it) In.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: May 08

Grandville

#115 Aug 16, 2008
Jim B wrote:
Do you actually think that would make the prices go down?? I am still waiting for all of these great prices we were promised to support outsourcing, and hey what about all these produce prices that were going to be lower because we allowed the illegals to come here to work.
I"M STILL WAITING..........
<quoted text>
Misdirection... hmmmm. Tying in issues that are entirely unrelated... hmmmm.

My Liberal detector is going NUTS. BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP... lol.

As such, there is no way for me to sway you opinion.
Seenitbefore

Three Rivers, MI

#116 Aug 16, 2008
Lamont Cranston wrote:
Osama Bin Laden has to be very pleased. His plan has worked far beyond his wildest expectation. The infidels have been subdued.
LC
You are among the (comparative) few that has figured that out. The primary tactic in terrorism is to create financial and social havoc upon the enemy. And Bush jumped right into it.
Chip

Colorado Springs, CO

#117 Aug 16, 2008
Seenitbefore wrote:
<quoted text>
You are among the (comparative) few that has figured that out. The primary tactic in terrorism is to create financial and social havoc upon the enemy. And Bush jumped right into it.
get a clue you moron.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: May 08

Grandville

#118 Aug 16, 2008
Lamont Cranston wrote:
Osama Bin Laden has to be very pleased. His plan has worked far beyond his wildest expectation. The infidels have been subdued.

Hmmmm... Last I knew, President Bush wasn't hiding in a cave somewhere, or under a woman's Burka. Neither is a single American. NOT ONE... LOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

Hey Bin Laden... Come and get me. Take off that Burka, sneak out of that spider hole in the back of that cave... fly over here and whack my A$$. You won!!!
You beat us already!!!
LC told us so!!!
Clearly, YOU can fly on a jet liner with an AK-47 and hand grenades, walk down MY street in broad daylight, dressed in traditional garb, towel on your freaking head, and whack my A$$!!!

What? What do you mean your head would be blown off just as soon as you walked out in the open? What? Even if was night time? The cover of darkness won't help? I thought you won, NO???Dang!!! Enjoy your spider hole pal. I bet you look as white as Michael Jackson nowadays...lol.

I like my version better. We were not defeated by Bin Laden.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: May 08

Grandville

#120 Aug 17, 2008
All the BS is taken care of... and none of it had to do with the facts as they are. There is no reason why natural gas has to be as expensive as it is, for us. We are sitting on top the the richest deposits of it in the world. They pay under 25 cents a gallon for gasoline in Saudia Arabia because they are setting right on top of oil.(we are too. Blame the green weenies and the Marxists Dems) We should have cheap freaking Natural Gas at least in Michigan.

I like to fish old Gravel Pits. Some have Natural Gas Wells... my favorite one has two... and nearly all of the Gravel Pits reek of Natural Gas. Think about this... Why do we pay as much for natural gas as the Desert SW? They have ZERO natural gas and we are awash in it. Why are we paying as much as some foriegn country that we export it to? The answer is the global economy... but it shouldn't be.

It's a racket.

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#121 Aug 18, 2008
RMRK wrote:
All the BS is taken care of... and none of it had to do with the facts as they are. There is no reason why natural gas has to be as expensive as it is, for us. We are sitting on top the the richest deposits of it in the world. They pay under 25 cents a gallon for gasoline in Saudia Arabia because they are setting right on top of oil.(we are too. Blame the green weenies and the Marxists Dems) We should have cheap freaking Natural Gas at least in Michigan.
I like to fish old Gravel Pits. Some have Natural Gas Wells... my favorite one has two... and nearly all of the Gravel Pits reek of Natural Gas. Think about this... Why do we pay as much for natural gas as the Desert SW? They have ZERO natural gas and we are awash in it. Why are we paying as much as some foriegn country that we export it to? The answer is the global economy... but it shouldn't be.
It's a racket.
I happened to go past the oil fields up by Reed City this weekend and they are still burning off the natural gas as "waste". Apparently there isn't enough of it coming out of those wells to make economic viable to save and use.
Batch37 Pain Is Good

United States

#122 Aug 18, 2008
Hurley35 wrote:
<quoted text>I happened to go past the oil fields up by Reed City this weekend and they are still burning off the natural gas as "waste". Apparently there isn't enough of it coming out of those wells to make economic viable to save and use.
Isn't amazing that they just burn it off. Same for the methane at landfills. You could heat near by schools via boiler systems.

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#123 Aug 18, 2008
Batch37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>Isn't amazing that they just burn it off. Same for the methane at landfills. You could heat near by schools via boiler systems.
Batch, there are a lot of methane digesters being developed and used in the state. I believe Zeeland Farm Services uses methane from a local landfill (don't quote me on where they get their source-I just know they use it) to power the majority of their offices and plant functions.

There is technology available, it's just getting the public and our politicians to embrace and support these new ideas.

Read about Sietsema's wanting to use turkey waste (ie: poo) to produce electricity for their Howard City feed mill. The Pierson Township board actually tabled the decision because neighbors are concerned about noise and smell. All studies compiled have shown both concerns are unfounded, yet our local government is still dragging their feet. Why?

We have the technology available now, and the businesses willing to use them, why is it our government-local, state and national-are still keeping us in the dark ages?

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