Southwest's AirTran still at DFW unti...

Southwest's AirTran still at DFW until November

There are 7 comments on the NBC 15 Online story from Jun 3, 2011, titled Southwest's AirTran still at DFW until November. In it, NBC 15 Online reports that:

The new owner of AirTran Airways Inc. says flights will continue at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport until Nov.

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JetBlast

UK

#1 Jun 3, 2011
Southwest has slots given to them at EWR and gates are made avaialble. Meanwhile in Dallas, Southwest isn't required to give up the gates at either DFW or LUV as per the agreement they signed.

Rules must be only for other carriers.
Pegasus

Brandon, FL

#2 Jun 4, 2011
So let me get this straight. You want to just pull the plug on all of those passengers that have purchased tickets to fly out of DFW? Just tell them, "too bad, sorry about your luck". You MUST work for American. It takes a bit of time to wind down an operation of this size. Relax.... American will be right back to gouging the passengers in no time, once SWA closes shop at DFW.
Not You

United States

#3 Jun 4, 2011
JetBlast wrote:
Southwest has slots given to them at EWR and gates are made avaialble. Meanwhile in Dallas, Southwest isn't required to give up the gates at either DFW or LUV as per the agreement they signed.
Rules must be only for other carriers.
Gates given?? Try again. Others wanted to pick and choose who they gave the gates to. That is not legal competition. They were forced to simply auction them off and SWA had the money to pay. They were not given. Now, as far as DFW and the Wright Ammendment goes, you say give up gates at LUV (it's actually DAL, but you're not too focoused on details here are you?) anybody can opperate out of DAL right now if they want to follow the rules, it's just most don't. SWA is giving up the AirTran opperation at DFW, it's just that AirTran had already sold tickets through November. Don't worry, you will have your conjested airport back then.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#4 Jun 4, 2011
Pegasus wrote:
So let me get this straight. You want to just pull the plug on all of those passengers that have purchased tickets to fly out of DFW? Just tell them, "too bad, sorry about your luck". You MUST work for American. It takes a bit of time to wind down an operation of this size. Relax.... American will be right back to gouging the passengers in no time, once SWA closes shop at DFW.
There was time. This purchase didn't happen overnight. If you are a connecting passenger who cares if you pass thru DFW or DAL. DAL might be easier. If you are headed home you get to learn DAL airport. Personally I don't care. I don't think Air Tran did much to AA in DFW and people can always go to DAL to fly SW they haven't HAD to go to DFW for years now. Yet they do. The two airlines can exsist just fine in the same city. AA doesn't need SW to ruin it, it has the current management team doing that just fine
southern_pride

Dallas, TX

#5 Jun 8, 2011
Prost wrote:
<quoted text> AA doesn't need SW to ruin it, it has the current management team doing that just fine
and alot of very senior employees who are lazy and complain about how much work they do for such little pay.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#6 Jun 8, 2011
southern_pride wrote:
<quoted text>and alot of very senior employees who are lazy and complain about how much work they do for such little pay.
Loads are heavier, people are older and beat down. They also haven't had a raise in 5 years and took a pay cut setting them back to levels from 15 years ago. The only difference is you use the term lazy. I invite you to strap on some knee pads. You will need to move between 30,000 and 80,000 lbs a day depending upon if you are an inbound bag driver and handle each bad twice. You will need to do this everyday, perhaps 6 days a week just to make ends meet depending upon where you live. For instance for what I pay for a house in SAN, I can buy 2 in DFW. Gas is $4 plus a gallon, and we have state income tax. What I complain about is that our staffing levels have been cut down so far we are unable to provide the service our customers have some to expect.
texas_ranger

Midlothian, TX

#7 Jun 11, 2011
Prost wrote:
<quoted text> our staffing levels have been cut down so far we are unable to provide the service our customers have some to expect.
Customers ultimately suffer. Agreed. But the dilemma is how do you continue to operate a money losing business with pre-9/11 staffing? The hubs have the most senior "lazy" people. They bid easy jobs and then don't want to do anything more than what they have to. Unfortunately mainline carriers will need to rid themselves of more and more old timers. The airlines that make a profit have alot of outsourced employees. Why? Bottom line. Cost. Just like you can buy two houses in DFW for your one in SAN. The airlines can buy three employees (@$9.00 per hour) and no benefits for one old AA guy.

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