Cummings riding light-duty diesel wave

Cummings riding light-duty diesel wave

There are 22 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Aug 29, 2007, titled Cummings riding light-duty diesel wave. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Columbus-based Cummins Inc.'s light-duty diesel engines are entering the light commercial vehicle market with an agreement to supply Chrysler with engines for its Dodge Ram 1500 pickup, Bloomberg reports today.

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showyourselves

Erlanger, KY

#1 Aug 29, 2007
Cummins had light diesel engines created years ago. Glad to see the need for them in the market rise.
KevinN

Cincinnati, OH

#2 Aug 29, 2007
I have been suggesting this for about six months now (not that I'm anyone to listen to in such a regard, but hey). This I would buy. I drove a 3/4 ton truck with a 6.6L diesel and got 23 mpg on the interstate. A smaller diesel in a lighter truck would get, what, 25-28 mpg?

Since: Dec 06

Indy by way of MI and MT

#3 Aug 29, 2007
Meh.. I wouldn't exactly say 1/2 ton truck is "light-duty". Call me when they come out with a 1.8 litre turbo diesel for the domestic market.
showyourselves

Erlanger, KY

#4 Aug 29, 2007
KevinN wrote:
I have been suggesting this for about six months now (not that I'm anyone to listen to in such a regard, but hey). This I would buy. I drove a 3/4 ton truck with a 6.6L diesel and got 23 mpg on the interstate. A smaller diesel in a lighter truck would get, what, 25-28 mpg?
No doubt. A lot of the current diesels are designed with towing in mind, if they designed with fuel efficiency in mind, theres nothing stopping them from getting 30+ MPG.

Since: Dec 06

Greenwood, IN

#5 Aug 29, 2007
x-editor wrote:
Meh.. I wouldn't exactly say 1/2 ton truck is "light-duty". Call me when they come out with a 1.8 litre turbo diesel for the domestic market.
In the automotive industry (passenger and trucks) a half ton pickup is a light truck, and these engines are properly considered to be "light duty" albeit on the larger end. An ISB or B series Cummins is a Medium Duty truck engine. The 3/4 ton Ram is the smallest vehicle you can get one in from the factory. Technically, any truck one ton and under is a light truck, even though they might call it a "Heavy Duty." All that means is it's capable of more loads than the 1/2 tons, and is designed to be a working rig.

Since: Dec 06

Greenwood, IN

#6 Aug 29, 2007
BTW, who's the dufus that put the "g" on the end of "Cummins?"
Sell to Chevy

AOL

#7 Aug 29, 2007
I want a Chevy with a light duty diesel I can afford! No Chryslers for me.
Sell to Chevy

AOL

#8 Aug 29, 2007
showyourselves wrote:
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No doubt. A lot of the current diesels are designed with towing in mind, if they designed with fuel efficiency in mind, theres nothing stopping them from getting 30+ MPG.
Yeah, I'd buy one too! Do you remember back in the late 70's when GM converted 350's to diesels? My buddy had one in a Cutlass and it got 30MPG. I sure wish I could find one now!
off a cough

Bellevue, KY

#9 Aug 29, 2007
My MIL has a Jeep Liberty with the 2.5 liter Mercedes CRD... 28 MPG on highway trips - real mileage.

The 1/2 ton pickup market needs this, but so does many other SUVs. Hybrids are not ideal for true 4x4 applications. I'd like to see them available in Yukons, Explorers, and my absolute-will-buy-one-tomorrow -favorite: The Jeep Wrangler. That kind of massive low-end torque would rock off-road.

The Wrangler already humiliates any non-military Hummer out there, the oil-burner would make it unstoppable, and at about 25 MPG.

I hope Chrysler under new mgmt does what they used to do - instead of following the market, CREATE it.
off a cough

Bellevue, KY

#10 Aug 29, 2007
Sell to Chevy wrote:
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Yeah, I'd buy one too! Do you remember back in the late 70's when GM converted 350's to diesels? My buddy had one in a Cutlass and it got 30MPG. I sure wish I could find one now!
Those were crap diesels, though... serious reliability problems. GM didn't have a 3/4 ton diesel for a long time because of this. When they brought back the Izuzu diesel in today's trucks, the original order to dealers was to not screw with repairs - swap the engine and ship the other back to Detroit for inspection. Fortunately, the Izusu diesel is a solid power plant.
Clothes Sizes Changing

AOL

#11 Aug 29, 2007
off a cough wrote:
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Those were crap diesels, though... serious reliability problems. GM didn't have a 3/4 ton diesel for a long time because of this. When they brought back the Izuzu diesel in today's trucks, the original order to dealers was to not screw with repairs - swap the engine and ship the other back to Detroit for inspection. Fortunately, the Izusu diesel is a solid power plant.
I'd take one of those Isuzu Pup diesels for an S-10. It would make a neat conversion and get great mileage too!
dodge man

AOL

#13 Aug 29, 2007
I own a '96 Ram 3/4 two wheel drive with the B series diesel I have 352,000 miles on it and I get 18 to 24 miles to the gallon, I would love to have a 1/2 ton with a diesel. Also I have a '05 Ram with the Hemi and I get 12 miles to the gallon on the interstate.
wtf

Deputy, IN

#14 Aug 29, 2007
Captain Tony wrote:
BTW, who's the dufus that put the "g" on the end of "Cummins?"
amazing.
Cummins Engines Pollute

Louisville, KY

#15 Aug 30, 2007
Although some Cummins Engines meet or exceed EPA regulations they don't tell you about the schemes they have developed with the EPA to allow some of their largest engines to pollute at levels higher than current standards required by many of the other manufacturers.....known at trading credits.

Since: Dec 06

Greenwood, IN

#16 Aug 31, 2007
Hmmm, and who manufactures engines in Peoria? CAT, right? And your motive is???
diesel dude

AOL

#17 Sep 19, 2007
I had a 79 cutlas with a 260 cid diesel v8 driven at 55 it got as much as 38 mpg it had 98 hp wasnt that bad of a car, smoked.
Diesel Dan

Columbus, IN

#18 Sep 26, 2007
Cummins Engines Pollute wrote:
Although some Cummins Engines meet or exceed EPA regulations they don't tell you about the schemes they have developed with the EPA to allow some of their largest engines to pollute at levels higher than current standards required by many of the other manufacturers.....known at trading credits.
This coming from that other place in Peoria that can't even get there new EPA engines certified. CAT. ACERT SYSTEM, The ACERT stands for "Ain't CERTIFIED" And for your information, every engine that comes out of the USA based Cummins plants already meets and exceeds the 2010 emissins laws, "CAT" is still strugggling hard to meet the 07 emissions laws. CAT POLLUTION STINKS

Since: Dec 06

Greenwood, IN

#19 Sep 26, 2007
Got 22 MPG on my trip to Michigan, average speed was 65 MPH. Found that if you close off 90% of the grille, it reduces the wind resistance from air passing thru the engine block, but doesn't overheat an unloaded pickup. Truck is a 2005 3/4 Ton Cummins Powered Ram.
bump

Wappingers Falls, NY

#20 Oct 1, 2007
i have a 1.8 turbo diesel 105hp 55mpg its not a truck its a Audi wagon with a luggage bin on top of it. In england most cars are turbo diesel such as ford. Over there the people have the power to choose what they want from a manufacture as to which over here we are forced to buy gas guzzlers. Although the gas mongers always win, over there they just jacked up the price to about $8 a gallon. To compensate the mpgs everyone was enjoying.
Inside News

Columbus, IN

#21 Feb 14, 2008
KevinN wrote:
I have been suggesting this for about six months now (not that I'm anyone to listen to in such a regard, but hey). This I would buy. I drove a 3/4 ton truck with a 6.6L diesel and got 23 mpg on the interstate. A smaller diesel in a lighter truck would get, what, 25-28 mpg?
27mpg is what it is getting at the present, but we hope to improve that by release time..

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