Flagging Oval Office hope among African-Americans

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'I think you can stick a fork in Barack Obama ," said the patriarch of a respected middle class, Connecticut family Friday.
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cyberbian

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May 5, 2008
 
I have flagging hope that you media types will allow an honest election.

If you google articles you will see a media assault insinuating that Obama who is clearly winning should be loosing. Please drop the mind control inuendo articles.

Do one about the summer Hillary spent hanging out with the Black Panthers at their headquarters, wouldn't people really prefer an interesting story like that?

Especially after the things she has suggested about Obama!

Hypocrit does not begin to describe her.

“This is my country”

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May 5, 2008
 
Obama is not evil, but he is somewhat misguided.
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Obama is a fraud, and has been from the start. He only joined that church in the first place to get street cred as he was laughed out of communities he was trying to "organize" as an out-of-touch outsider. Then what? He was picked up by Rezko and in turn got him public money to let the elderly and poor freeze in Rezko's slums. The Iraqi billionaire, Auchi, whom Obama "doesn't remember" toasting and partying with, gave the Rezkos the money to help buy the Obamas their mansion.

But worst of all is Obama's "list of accomplishments." They were taken from their original authors and given to Obama by king-makers so he could run for higher office. Obama knows this and yet claims credit for others' work. In fact, as noted in the Washington Post, he contiues to do this to this day. I'd call knowingly perpetuating a fraud "evil" --- and none of this, his arrogance, his inexperience, his connections, is Hillary's fault. And I didn't even touch on Ayers or Odinga. Look it up yourselves and stop blaming Wright, Hillary and the media...Obama has been winning caucuses, not elections, and hopefully Indiana and North Carolina voters will send this fraud back to Chicago.
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May 5, 2008
 
the sponsor of a message is it's real author. les payne's 20 years of white hating columns was newsday editorial page editor (and newsday boss) jim klurfeld's way of telling his white, christian readers that he didn't like or trust them. les payne is just his pawn delivering his message.
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Personally, I've always felt that Obama was being set up for a fall. Just as Hilary is the token "woman", Obama is the token "black". And I've felt that he was allowed to go just so far, and then would be yanked out.
And I speak as a white Obama supporter.
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May 5, 2008
 
I've found that upper middle class black families are the most scared. They worry that their so called tolerant white neighbors who only accepted them because of academic/financial achievement and their ability to purchase homes in white enclaves might dissipate. They worry that the white women the befriended will now start to look askance at them if Hillary loses, so while pretending to be appalled at rev. Wright they are doing the same dance.
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As an Indian, I find some white people's hypocrisy both jarring and intellectually infantile. I mean isn't it laughably ironic that any time a black writer pens a criticism of the media for a double standard, he is denounced for being "white hating". Whereas a white writer who dares to criticize blacks or any other minority is praised for his courage and saluted for his patriotism (think Bill O'Reilly, Lou Dobbs, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity. After all, isn't it blacks who've been oppressed for the past 400 years? Not in popular culture I guess - they all just magically appeared some time after 1984 with their crazy hightops and rapp huh?

But as for Obama's electability, he's proven himself capable of weathering any storm with an inspiring dose of dignity and poise. Of course, the babbling wing nuts who support McCain are gullible enough to believe anything in order to hate him, i.e. Muslim spy because he's been overseas, corrupt because he worked for a white-shoe law firm whose clientele included a rich and corrupt, terroristic because someone who lives in the district to which Obama was elected to the Illinois legislature was a terrorist when Obama was in 3rd grade, and of course inexperienced, because, apparently, both McCain and Hillary were presidents and governors of the phantom nation/state of Myspouse'swealth before running in 2008.

It seems to me, the predominant reason black employees, in the corporate setting, are denied positions, is often times due to lack of experience. Now this is often true, for the simple reason that most white partners at major firms are loathe to ingratiate black associates into the firm's culture due to, to use a euphemism, "wanting to associate with like minded people." Yet, on a few occasions, one does bear witness to the grim specter of the very experienced black associate simply being passed up "due to lack of experience," notwithstanding the facts on the resume.

Thus, for the Hillary/McCain "experience voters", Barack could be 90 years old and have been governor of every state since conception and he would "lack experience" on some fundamental level. It all goes to show that just as with those who are so eager to pull trigger on "white hater", or "inexperienced" black associate, those who would do the same on national politics reveal more about the dilapidated state of their own morality than anything salient about the world around them.

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Attorney Raj wrote:
As an Indian, I find some white people's hypocrisy both jarring and intellectually infantile. I mean isn't it laughably ironic that any time a black writer pens a criticism of the media for a double standard, he is denounced for being "white hating". Whereas a white writer who dares to criticize blacks or any other minority is praised for his courage and saluted for his patriotism (think Bill O'Reilly, Lou Dobbs, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity. After all, isn't it blacks who've been oppressed for the past 400 years? Not in popular culture I guess - they all just magically appeared some time after 1984 with their crazy hightops and rapp huh?
But as for Obama's electability, he's proven himself capable of weathering any storm with an inspiring dose of dignity and poise. Of course, the babbling wing nuts who support McCain are gullible enough to believe anything in order to hate him, i.e. Muslim spy because he's been overseas, corrupt because he worked for a white-shoe law firm whose clientele included a rich and corrupt, terroristic because someone who lives in the district to which Obama was elected to the Illinois legislature was a terrorist when Obama was in 3rd grade, and of course inexperienced, because, apparently, both McCain and Hillary were presidents and governors of the phantom nation/state of Myspouse'swealth before running in 2008.
It seems to me, the predominant reason black employees, in the corporate setting, are denied positions, is often times due to lack of experience. Now this is often true, for the simple reason that most white partners at major firms are loathe to ingratiate black associates into the firm's culture due to, to use a euphemism, "wanting to associate with like minded people." Yet, on a few occasions, one does bear witness to the grim specter of the very experienced black associate simply being passed up "due to lack of experience," notwithstanding the facts on the resume.
Thus, for the Hillary/McCain "experience voters", Barack could be 90 years old and have been governor of every state since conception and he would "lack experience" on some fundamental level. It all goes to show that just as with those who are so eager to pull trigger on "white hater", or "inexperienced" black associate, those who would do the same on national politics reveal more about the dilapidated state of their own morality than anything salient about the world around them.
Another Public Defender named Raj
my dear sir, please return to india! they need you there, or are all the problems in india solved? you should be president of india! that way you won't be here! yes sir, my dear sir. return quickly!
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Better watch this..

www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
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Attorney Raj wrote:
As an Indian, I find some white people's hypocrisy both jarring and intellectually infantile. I mean isn't it laughably ironic that any time a black writer pens a criticism of the media for a double standard, he is denounced for being "white hating". Whereas a white writer who dares to criticize blacks or any other minority is praised for his courage and saluted for his patriotism (think Bill O'Reilly, Lou Dobbs, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity. After all, isn't it blacks who've been oppressed for the past 400 years? Not in popular culture I guess - they all just magically appeared some time after 1984 with their crazy hightops and rapp huh?
But as for Obama's electability, he's proven himself capable of weathering any storm with an inspiring dose of dignity and poise. Of course, the babbling wing nuts who support McCain are gullible enough to believe anything in order to hate him, i.e. Muslim spy because he's been overseas, corrupt because he worked for a white-shoe law firm whose clientele included a rich and corrupt, terroristic because someone who lives in the district to which Obama was elected to the Illinois legislature was a terrorist when Obama was in 3rd grade, and of course inexperienced, because, apparently, both McCain and Hillary were presidents and governors of the phantom nation/state of Myspouse'swealth before running in 2008.
It seems to me, the predominant reason black employees, in the corporate setting, are denied positions, is often times due to lack of experience. Now this is often true, for the simple reason that most white partners at major firms are loathe to ingratiate black associates into the firm's culture due to, to use a euphemism, "wanting to associate with like minded people." Yet, on a few occasions, one does bear witness to the grim specter of the very experienced black associate simply being passed up "due to lack of experience," notwithstanding the facts on the resume.
Thus, for the Hillary/McCain "experience voters", Barack could be 90 years old and have been governor of every state since conception and he would "lack experience" on some fundamental level. It all goes to show that just as with those who are so eager to pull trigger on "white hater", or "inexperienced" black associate, those who would do the same on national politics reveal more about the dilapidated state of their own morality than anything salient about the world around them.
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my dear sir, is there any chance you could take your new found criminal friends back to india with you? please. you deserve each other!
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Although no one can overlook the Obama Wright 20 year connection one has to make a choice from three of the worst candidates in history. McCain the warmonger and Hillary the panderer for every special interest group and a warmonger on Iran. I will vote for Obama unless the idiot democrats fix the special delegate count in Hillary's favor. Obama, however, has been doomed by people like the despicable white hating, America hating egomaniac Re. Wright and the resident racist Les Payne with his fairytale stories. The real Les Payne is the one that made Hillary literally the antiChrist since birth and his hate of the white Clintons just because they are white. White voters see the hate from blacks like these two and Obama probably cannot overcome it.
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Who Pays,

McCain is not a warmonger!!!

McCain understands foreign policy and what we need to do to protect our interests.

Some wars are necessary also.
Islam is a gutter religion and we need to protect ourselves from its threat, because it is a big threat.

You can not hide under your blanket and think it will go away because it won't.

McCain understands this and understands this WELL

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Little Joe wrote:
Who Pays,
McCain is not a warmonger!!!

McCain understands foreign policy and what we need to do to protect our interests.
Some wars are necessary also.
Islam is a gutter religion and we need to protect ourselves from its threat, because it is a big threat.
You can not hide under your blanket and think it will go away because it won't.
McCain understands this and understands this WELL
McCain comes from a mindset where the military is a "family business," and he most definitely IS a warmonger. He had the opportunity to vote against President Bush's IDIOCY and he blew it.

I met "hereditary military caste" dudes like McCain when I was in the service:

You'd learn that So-and-so's Daddy was in the Airforce for 30 yrs and retired as Senior Master Sergeant... so sonny steps forward at age 18 or 19 right after high school and joins up, planning to spend HIS 20 years or more there....

OR if he's bright and academic, he gets a Congressional appointment to the Air Force Academy (Naval Academy in McCain's case) where the government bestows a free university education on him in exchange for X number of years of military service.

McCain himself is 3rd-generation Navy with one son in the Marine Corps - a sacrifice which I have to admit I find admirable....

Nonetheless, this man has drunk the Republican/Bush Kool-Aid. He, as a pro-business millionaire (by marriage), accepts the "necessity" of the war as an important means to transfer government funds into the hands of defense contractors like Blackwater Intl., Halliburton, et al. He's no good.

“Protestant, Gay, Libertarian”

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The war is necessary. If it lasts 100 years, then so be it. We MUST defeat these Islamic-fascist terrorists. No other outcome is acceptable. And when Hillary (whom I would NEVER consider voting for for any position) said she would obliterate Iran if they attacked Israel, she was right and I am glad she said it.

As for Obama, he would have had a LOT more credibility if he had denounced Rev. Wrong IMMEDIATELY.

Obama did this damage to himself.

And people will question his judgment because of it.

As a Libertarian, I will not vote for McCain nor the democratic nominee, whomever that may be.

PEACE !:)

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Daniel P from Long Island wrote:
The war is necessary. If it lasts 100 years, then so be it. We MUST defeat these Islamic-fascist terrorists. No other outcome is acceptable. And when Hillary (whom I would NEVER consider voting for for any position) said she would obliterate Iran if they attacked Israel, she was right and I am glad she said it.

As for Obama, he would have had a LOT more credibility if he had denounced Rev. Wrong IMMEDIATELY....
Actually, an intelligent observer should realize how absurd this whole Rev. Wright fiasco is. The cold hard facts are that Obama's "religious rights" are being violated just the same as Romney's were when he was pounded on by Huckabee and others for his being a Mormon.

Religion should NEVER be a consideration when voting for a President - either on the right or left. Religion is NOT a factor in the competent governance of the USA. The fact that so many American voters insist that religion be injected into the process is to their (our) collective detriment.

They will be played for fools every time by the politicians. And deservedly so.
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bxnyc wrote:
I've found that upper middle class black families are the most scared. They worry that their so called tolerant white neighbors who only accepted them because of academic/financial achievement and their ability to purchase homes in white enclaves might dissipate. They worry that the white women the befriended will now start to look askance at them if Hillary loses, so while pretending to be appalled at rev. Wright they are doing the same dance.
American europeans want american africans to turn a blinds eye to our country's history and their experience in order to avoid taking the responsibility to work together to make things right.

We are talking about a group of people who have financially, physically, and mentally benefited from slavery, jim crow and other separatist acts based upon being racist to black people.

If american africans cannot provide a compelling reason i.e benefit to end racism from an american european perspective why should we be free of it?

The question that needs to be answered before we can put an end to the single greatest disease in this country's history is very simple...

What is in it for them?

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Harrisson wrote:
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Actually, an intelligent observer should realize how absurd this whole Rev. Wright fiasco is. The cold hard facts are that Obama's "religious rights" are being violated just the same as Romney's were when he was pounded on by Huckabee and others for his being a Mormon.
Religion should NEVER be a consideration when voting for a President - either on the right or left. Religion is NOT a factor in the competent governance of the USA. The fact that so many American voters insist that religion be injected into the process is to their (our) collective detriment.
They will be played for fools every time by the politicians. And deservedly so.
The whole Rev. Wrong fiasco is about the JUDGMENT of Senator Obama. He certainly has a right to worship at the church of his choosing, but when a pastor says such hateful things, AND Senator Obama does not IMMEDIATELY denounce them, and seperate himself from this church and this man, then I think, and a LOT of people apparently think, it raises serious doubts about his judgment.

PEACE !:)

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Daniel P from Long Island wrote:
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The whole Rev. Wrong fiasco is about the JUDGMENT of Senator Obama. He certainly has a right to worship at the church of his choosing, but when a pastor says such hateful things, AND Senator Obama does not IMMEDIATELY denounce them, and seperate himself from this church and this man, then I think, and a LOT of people apparently think, it raises serious doubts about his judgment.
PEACE !:)
I would agree with you IF and only IF that "judgment rule" you cited were applied equally to all Presidential candidates of either party.

When Republican, Bush-allied ministers call for the assasination of a foreign head-of-state (terrorism) or say that Hurricane Katrina is an expression of God's divine wrath for the sinfulness or immorality of local residents... do we see a rush to denounce Falwell or Robertson or whoever the right-wing jerk is?? And to disavow his comments?

Well.... what do you think? You can call it an unfortunate double-standard or you can call it racism or... whatever!

But you can't call it honest or respectable.
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I think its really sad that a man such as Pastor Wright would mix such racial remarks and still identify hisself with God. I am very disturb at the fact that a good descent politician man like Obama would be smeared and sink in his campaign due to remarks made by a hypocarate as Wright is. No! the black churchs are not operated by men of this nature, No! he isn't a man anointed by God who lives and breathes the words that stands against everything that this country (America) has fought so hard against in the pass. For all men to be considered as equal.
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I think that Pastor Wright wants publicity and wants to be recognize in society. It is very disturbing that he will even be identified as a man of God who speaks on terms of such prejudice. One thing that God will never do. Obama is a true honest man who will do this world great good. I regret the fact that a man as Pastor Wright has caused his campaign harm by his hypocatical statements in the past. Pastor Wright has no idea of what being a true man of God is.

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