FAA issues new rules on pilot fatigue

FAA issues new rules on pilot fatigue

There are 8 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 21, 2011, titled FAA issues new rules on pilot fatigue. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

They come in the wake of the 2009 Colgan Air commuter airline crash in Buffalo, N.Y., that was blamed partly on pilot fatigue.

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#1 Dec 21, 2011
As usual, aviation safety rules are written in blood.
JetBlast

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#2 Dec 22, 2011
This has always been a personal responsibility issue for anyone that works in an industry where there are rotating shifts, different days off and extended travel.

Pilots or other crew that choose to commute long distances for work should plan for proper rest. You can't non-rev in from LA to Chicago and hop right on a trans-Atlantic all-night flight and expect to be your best.

Controllers used to be scheduled for 8 hours between shifts and after a rash of 'sleep' issues, the FAA bumped that rest period up to 9 hours. Big deal! If employees don't use that time to prepare themselves for work then all the required rest rules don't mean squat.

What happens when the first pilot shows up for work and doesn't sign the 'I'm rested for work' line on the flight plan? Why even bother going to the airport? This is nothing more than laywers trying to regulate common sense.
nats

Winston Salem, NC

#3 Dec 22, 2011
I doubt that this ruling will improve safety. In the past they have been able to schedule up to a 14 hours of duty with a 9 hour rest. Maximum of 12 hours duty would make sense. Considering Randy Babbit who had imput into this rule making it will benefit who ever paid him off.
Safety Complier

United States

#4 Dec 23, 2011
Alaska Air Group
AMR Corporation
Hawaiian Holdings
Global Aviation Holdings
Mesa Air Group
Republic Airways Holdings
Pinnacle Airlines Corp.
SkyWest, Inc.
Southwest Airlines Co.
Trans States Holdings
United Continental Holdings
US Airways Group

Lets see who tries to put margin over passenger safety by not implementing these new FAA anti-fatigue rooms as quickly as possible?

Schedules are all computer generated so this can be phased in within a months bid period of time if these companies were really interested in passengers safety. Anyone care to guess which airline biz will be in FAA compliance first among all their subsidiaries???

What about last???
Safety Complier

United States

#5 Dec 23, 2011
Last my guess would be Republic Airways Holdings as they have so many subsidiaries and more staffing to contend with.

First probably Alaska Air Group as Horizon Air is not that large in size.
Safety Complier

United States

#6 Dec 23, 2011
My guess for last would probably be Republic Airways Holdings for they have so many subsidiaries and rapid staff turn over.

First would be probably Alaska Air Group as they have the sole regional subsidiary of Horizon Air with a single fleet type and it is not too large and unwieldy.
Safety Complier

United States

#7 Dec 23, 2011
Safety Complier wrote:
Alaska Air Group
AMR Corporation
Hawaiian Holdings
Global Aviation Holdings
Mesa Air Group
Republic Airways Holdings
Pinnacle Airlines Corp.
SkyWest, Inc.
Southwest Airlines Co.
Trans States Holdings
United Continental Holdings
US Airways Group
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Lets see who tries to put margin over passenger safety by not implementing these new FAA anti-fatigue R U L E S as quickly as possible?
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Schedules are all computer generated so this can be phased in within a months bid period of time if these companies were really interested in passengers safety. Anyone care to guess which airline biz will be in FAA compliance first among all their subsidiaries???
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What about last???
Anti-Fatigue Rules - that is!
Soccer Mum

United States

#8 Dec 25, 2011
Safety Complier wrote:
Alaska Air Group
AMR Corporation
Hawaiian Holdings
Global Aviation Holdings
Mesa Air Group
Republic Airways Holdings
Pinnacle Airlines Corp.
SkyWest, Inc.
Southwest Airlines Co.
Trans States Holdings
United Continental Holdings
US Airways Group
Lets see who tries to put margin over passenger safety by not implementing these new FAA anti-fatigue rooms as quickly as possible?
Schedules are all computer generated so this can be phased in within a months bid period of time if these companies were really interested in passengers safety. Anyone care to guess which airline biz will be in FAA compliance first among all their subsidiaries???
What about last???
I need to book my two 7 year old twins during spring break Boise Idaho to Dayton Ohio to stay with their grand parents while my husband and I go search for work out of state after he gets laid off.

Which C O M P A N I E S - A I R L I N E S are safe. I am so confused and the damn FAA government is not making it any easier to decided which one is. I do not want my girls sleeping with the sleepy pilots all the way there.

I am so confused whic

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