Pinnacle Airlines wooed to move its HQ to Minnesota

Jun 4, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Star Tribune

Hoping to land a new airline tenant, the Metropolitan Airports Commission has approached Memphis-based Pinnacle Airlines about the possibility of moving its corporate headquarters to Minnesota.

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not a fine wine

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Maybe if MAC had supported the 2005 picket lines they wouldn't be singing this song. Mac says they have experience with bankrupt airlines. LoL... no doubt. How many times did the new northwest swindle the MAC ? For Pinnacle, this deal might be to good too pass up. And dicky might require Pinnacle to move. Seeing his contract with Pinnacle wheels the power to change Pinnacle labor contacts. How could breaking a lease be so tough. Who knows... with this AeroMexico deal, maybe Pinnacle can find some space down in Atlanta.
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MAC supporting your strike wouldn't have changed it's outcome. I'll bet Pinnacle does it. Memphis's days as any kind of hub are over. Too small. Too close to Atlanta.
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MAC supporting your strike wouldn't have changed it's outcome. I'll bet Pinnacle does it. Memphis's days as any kind of hub are over. Too small. Too close to Atlanta.
If the public did support unions the outcomes would indeed be different. When any community loses a large labor group, the whole community suffers. MSP & the MAC are now stuck with a whole bunch of airport and no one interested in using it. So much so that they are offering even more of the taxpayers money to attract someone...anyone, to lessen the hurt.

If Pinnacle does do it... good for MSP. But it's still a far cry from what MSP had before the checchi,wilson LBO. The state/taxpayers made the investments, and then left the employees too fight the company all by themselves. So... Was MSP better off before the strike or after the strike? And if the public, plus the other unions, had sided with the mechanics, would The New Nwa not of had to back down?
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not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text>If the public did support unions the outcomes would indeed be different. When any community loses a large labor group, the whole community suffers. MSP & the MAC are now stuck with a whole bunch of airport and no one interested in using it. So much so that they are offering even more of the taxpayers money to attract someone...anyone, to lessen the hurt.
If Pinnacle does do it... good for MSP. But it's still a far cry from what MSP had before the checchi,wilson LBO. The state/taxpayers made the investments, and then left the employees too fight the company all by themselves. So... Was MSP better off before the strike or after the strike? And if the public, plus the other unions, had sided with the mechanics, would The New Nwa not of had to back down?
It isn't a public support issue. NWA was out of money, just like DAL. They went bankrupt within hours of each other. I'm pretty sure the DAL/NWA merger was in the works for much longer than reported. No matter how things had gone. The bankruptcy was inevitable, as was the merger.
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If the public did support unions the outcomes would indeed be different. When any community loses a large labor group, the whole community suffers.
This doesn't have to only apply to nwa/dal.
The public needs to start thinking for themselves. If the well to do are so against unions, and working incomes haven't even come close to keeping up, you have to ask... whats so bad about unions. Union labor didn't break the bank at any airline. Over capacity, and over spending on things like non union feeder airlines, airport improvements, parking garages, and etc... broke the banks. Corporation are people too ! So if don't got the money, you don't get the stuff. Enough of the stealing from within.
Have you ever read the book 'Free Lunch'? Don't remember the author, but give it a read. I think you'll like it.
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not a fine wine wrote:
If the public did support unions the outcomes would indeed be different. When any community loses a large labor group, the whole community suffers.
This doesn't have to only apply to nwa/dal.
The public needs to start thinking for themselves. If the well to do are so against unions, and working incomes haven't even come close to keeping up, you have to ask... whats so bad about unions. Union labor didn't break the bank at any airline. Over capacity, and over spending on things like non union feeder airlines, airport improvements, parking garages, and etc... broke the banks. Corporation are people too ! So if don't got the money, you don't get the stuff. Enough of the stealing from within.
Have you ever read the book 'Free Lunch'? Don't remember the author, but give it a read. I think you'll like it.
Does "the public needs to start thinking for themselves" mean thinking like the malcontents think? I certainly hope not.The public certainly did not support the AMFA in their ill fated strike
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Does "the public needs to start thinking for themselves" mean thinking like the malcontents think? I certainly hope not.The public certainly did not support the AMFA in their ill fated strike
That is true. They didn't and now they're wondering why MSP is a fly over airport. And what happen to all the good will money they gave to nwa. And what about that big empty hangar up there in nort country.
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If the public did support unions the outcomes would indeed be different. When any community loses a large labor group, the whole community suffers.
This doesn't have to only apply to nwa/dal.
The public needs to start thinking for themselves. If the well to do are so against unions, and working incomes haven't even come close to keeping up, you have to ask... whats so bad about unions. Union labor didn't break the bank at any airline. Over capacity, and over spending on things like non union feeder airlines, airport improvements, parking garages, and etc... broke the banks. Corporation are people too ! So if don't got the money, you don't get the stuff. Enough of the stealing from within.
Have you ever read the book 'Free Lunch'? Don't remember the author, but give it a read. I think you'll like it.
The public is reeling from the brain washing of corporate america. The family of today is both parents working and quality time is picking the kids up at the daycare and taking them to Mcdonalds for dinner. Both parents are too tired for much else. The corps like it that way. American family broke and willing to do anything for less than previous generation did. How many times have you heard someone say I'm just thankful to have a job..Do you think the executives want it any different? I don't.
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The public is reeling from the brain washing of corporate america. The family of today is both parents working and quality time is picking the kids up at the daycare and taking them to Mcdonalds for dinner. Both parents are too tired for much else. The corps like it that way. American family broke and willing to do anything for less than previous generation did. How many times have you heard someone say I'm just thankful to have a job..Do you think the executives want it any different? I don't.
I agree. Hilliary said it takes a village to raise a child. I disagree... It takes a good enough income so one parent can stay home and raise the child. The way it is today both parents have to leave the village to hunt. Corporations own everything including the village.

Once, while I was living out in Seattle, I met an old man who was as living in the same apartment complex as I. I ask him one day, why he was retired and living in this apartment? He told me that the property taxes went up so fast, that he and his wife could not keep up. So they were taxed off the land that his family had owned for the past 100 years. Isn't that something. The American working man has become the new American Indian. If the land has value they'll find a way to take it. His place was just one more American farm gone, causing even more Americans to have to leave the village. Why is it that bad things that happen to other people, keep happening to more and more people?
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<quoted text>If the public did support unions the outcomes would indeed be different. When any community loses a large labor group, the whole community suffers. MSP & the MAC are now stuck with a whole bunch of airport and no one interested in using it. So much so that they are offering even more of the taxpayers money to attract someone...anyone, to lessen the hurt.
If Pinnacle does do it... good for MSP. But it's still a far cry from what MSP had before the checchi,wilson LBO. The state/taxpayers made the investments, and then left the employees too fight the company all by themselves. So... Was MSP better off before the strike or after the strike? And if the public, plus the other unions, had sided with the mechanics, would The New Nwa not of had to back down?
These taxpayers you talk about were a majority of NWA workers...cut off their nose to spite their face is what they did. No work, no taxes paid, sell the house and move on to the next city and the next airport. I hope they're bleeding!
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These taxpayers you talk about were a majority of NWA workers...cut off their nose to spite their face is what they did. No work, no taxes paid, sell the house and move on to the next city and the next airport. I hope they're bleeding!
They are. MSP is regional airline airport. Albeit they have some of the biggest and easiest parking garages going.

You have to wonder about Minnesota, they ignored the Hormel unions, they ignored the NWA unions, they are ignoring American Crystal, and now they have a nursing strike to ignore. If you do a google search on strikes in MN, it looks to be normal business. So they really have no one to blame but themselves. They could probabley vote themselves a tax break if they one day woke up. The better off your neighbors are... the better off you are.
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<quoted text>They are. MSP is regional airline airport. Albeit they have some of the biggest and easiest parking garages going.
You have to wonder about Minnesota, they ignored the Hormel unions, they ignored the NWA unions, they are ignoring American Crystal, and now they have a nursing strike to ignore. If you do a google search on strikes in MN, it looks to be normal business. So they really have no one to blame but themselves. They could probabley vote themselves a tax break if they one day woke up. The better off your neighbors are... the better off you are.
Wino, Iknow you hate to admit it, but NWA/DL are doing better in all measureable yardsticks since the AMFA departed. Wonder why that is?
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Wino, Iknow you hate to admit it, but NWA/DL are doing better in all measureable yardsticks since the AMFA departed. Wonder why that is?
I'll bet you do. I don't think you can say nwa is doing better or MSP. As for Delta, AMFA was never there, so your yardsticks mean nothing. I've got no axe to grind with Delta. My malcontent lies with the exnwa executives who destroyed NWA.
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<quoted text>I'll bet you do. I don't think you can say nwa is doing better or MSP. As for Delta, AMFA was never there, so your yardsticks mean nothing. I've got no axe to grind with Delta. My malcontent lies with the exnwa executives who destroyed NWA.
The axe grinding is ong, the toad, and sfb. I believe it has been said many times on here that no one wants to see Delta fail. I enjoy seeing them all work for my pension. I agree about the execs and I add the SCABS to the list.
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The axe grinding is ong, the toad, and sfb. I believe it has been said many times on here that no one wants to see Delta fail. I enjoy seeing them all work for my pension. I agree about the execs and I add the SCABS to the list.
If no one wants to see Delta fail, why do you and Wino keep pointing out tha either DL stock is dropping or a simular insignifant news that are negative to DL. Come on your bitternes towards NW/DL continues to eat away at your insides. The fact remains that NW operated a better ailine after the AMFA left the building. Your group lost the war as well as the bottle!!
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The axe grinding is ong, the toad, and sfb. I believe it has been said many times on here that no one wants to see Delta fail. I enjoy seeing them all work for my pension. I agree about the execs and I add the SCABS to the list.
Yes the SCABS too.
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If no one wants to see Delta fail, why do you and Wino keep pointing out tha either DL stock is dropping or a simular insignifant news that are negative to DL. Come on your bitternes towards NW/DL continues to eat away at your insides. The fact remains that NW operated a better ailine after the AMFA left the building. Your group lost the war as well as the bottle!!
The fact remains that NW operated a better ailine after the AMFA left the building.

The fact remains that NWA is no more. The stock and negatives are testament to the exnwa A$$s running DAL. People like that should never be allowed to move on, and not be constantly reminded about what they did to others to get there. No different than the SCABS... These people stole from others to take care of themselves. They're not to be trusted, not to be respected, and Never to be forgotten! They're are scum !!
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<quoted text>The fact remains that NW operated a better ailine after the AMFA left the building.
The fact remains that NWA is no more. The stock and negatives are testament to the exnwa A$$s running DAL. People like that should never be allowed to move on, and not be constantly reminded about what they did to others to get there. No different than the SCABS... These people stole from others to take care of themselves. They're not to be trusted, not to be respected, and Never to be forgotten! They're are scum !!
Another bitter statement filled with hate. Has all this hate improved the lot of the malcontent since they walked off the job
You have heard of the voice crying in the wilderness?
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Another bitter statement filled with hate. Has all this hate improved the lot of the malcontent since they walked off the job
You have heard of the voice crying in the wilderness?
kicked off the job. You Know nothing of how it went down!

the voice crying in the wilderness

That voice is the MAC & MSP wondering where all the big aeroplanes went.
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<quoted text> kicked off the job. You Know nothing of how it went down!
the voice crying in the wilderness
That voice is the MAC & MSP wondering where all the big aeroplanes went.
They now are seeing the medium sized ones. As Delta withdraws the competition moves in. SWA and Spirit are the latest. Of course SWA is in Alanta we'll have to see how that pans out. MSP is truly becoming nothing more than flyover land. Will the last Mac employee who leaves please shut off the lights to save the tax payers a few pennies after picking up the carnage that Dick leaves.

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