Sound Off (Sept. 18)

Sound Off (Sept. 18)

There are 73 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Sep 18, 2010, titled Sound Off (Sept. 18). In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

I am over 70 years old and I read in the paper our taxes are going up. Why do the seniors have to keep paying for schools? We haven't had kids in school for 40 years, but yet we keep paying for all these others kids.

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waitaminute

United States

#1 Sep 18, 2010
The property taxes keep going up because Democrats keep getting elected.
Reminder

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Sep 18, 2010
Sound Off: "I am over 70 years old and I read in the paper our taxes are going up. Why do the seniors have to keep paying for schools? We haven't had kids in school for 40 years, but yet we keep paying for all these others kids."

If you are a senior on a reduced income, then you probably don't pay much in taxes. If you are still working or have a retirement equal to your working income, of course you still pay taxes. You never paid taxes for YOUR kids to go school. You pay taxes for ALL kids to go to school. It's part of your civic duty, and at age 70 you should know that.
Realist

Las Cruces, NM

#3 Sep 18, 2010
Sound-Off: "I am over 70 years old and I read in the paper our taxes are going up. Why do the seniors have to keep paying for schools? We haven't had kids in school for 40 years, but yet we keep paying for all these others kids."

Ah yes, but it was okay - you probably expected it too - for Seniors to pay for school taxes when YOUR KIDS were in school.

Amazing how your viewpoint changes with time, eh?

Get real, taxes won't go down - just up unless WE THE PEOPLE do more than write to sound-off.
Think about it

AOL

#4 Sep 18, 2010
Sound-Off: "I am over 70 years old and I read in the paper our taxes are going up. Why do the seniors have to keep paying for schools? We haven't had kids in school for 40 years, but yet we keep paying for all these others kids."

You are paying to educate the citizens of your community. Those students will one day be your elected officials, doctors, cashiers, police/firemen etc.
Think about it

AOL

#5 Sep 18, 2010
Sound off "People must have amnesia to forget the Republicans caused this economic mess. They want the same policies that got us into it. Obama is not a magician. This can't be fixed in two years.

The Republicans are holding the middle class tax cut hostage for the rich tax cuts. The rich get them elected."

Obama was a senator who within the democrat congress, in control since 2006, voted for the economic policies that caused this mess.

Only 3% of tax payers are the 'rich'. 3% of voters would not be able to elect anyone. Must be someone besides the 'rich' voting for republicans.
Proud Native New Mexican

United States

#6 Sep 18, 2010
I think I read that only 14% voted in the Primaries. My number might be a little off but the point I want to make is VERY FEW VOTE. It isn't a Democrat or Republican issue.... it is a citizen issue. Only the "special interest" voters work to get their "special interest" candidate voted in. 70 years old or 18 years old, most are not voting at all. How can you complain, if you do not vote? Of course, I do not know if you voted, and I am not accusing anyone. I am only asking, no begging, please vote. Take someone with you to the polls. Voting is the only way we can make a difference. There should not be "career politicians". If you keep voting the same candidates back.....how can you expect anything different?
Get a clue

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Sep 18, 2010
Think about it wrote:
Sound-Off: "I am over 70 years old and I read in the paper our taxes are going up. Why do the seniors have to keep paying for schools? We haven't had kids in school for 40 years, but yet we keep paying for all these others kids."
You are paying to educate the citizens of your community. Those students will one day be your elected officials, doctors, cashiers, police/firemen etc.
With the school system in Las Cruces there won't be many doctors. Until we take control of the schools away from the gangs and those that have different agendas, we will continue to produce the 48th fewest graduates in the nation. We also need to educate the children that having children at 13 - 18 years old isn't conducive to getting a good job or career. These non-graduates (drop-outs) don't want to be cashiers because the pay is too low and most don't qualify anyway. They can't figure the change.
huhuh

Las Cruces, NM

#8 Sep 18, 2010
SOUND OFF; "People must have amnesia" to forget the Republicans caused this economic mess. They want the same policies that got us into it. Obama is not a magician. This can't be fixed in two years

you right people do have amnesia, they for got that then senator obama voted for all the spending bills(when he did vote)that were brought to the nancy and harry congress. obama never opposed any spending bill as a senator. BTW the econ crisis started after nancy and harry took charge in 2007.
the repubs wanted more regulation on fannie and freddie in 2004 but barny and mr dodd and other democrats fought it. and after the fannie and freddie crash barny and mr dodd ran away from it and said they did nothing wrong.
Gnu

Las Cruces, NM

#9 Sep 18, 2010
SoundOff: "I am over 70 years old and I read in the paper our taxes are going up. Why do the seniors have to keep paying for schools? We haven't had kids in school for 40 years, but yet we keep paying for all these others kids."

I have no kids in school either, but I think all of us should pay for their education. However, I believe it should be our right to direct a good portion of this tax to the school of our choice -- public or private.
Dave

Rio Rancho, NM

#10 Sep 18, 2010
Proud Native New Mexican wrote:
I think I read that only 14% voted in the Primaries. My number might be a little off but the point I want to make is VERY FEW VOTE. It isn't a Democrat or Republican issue.... it is a citizen issue. Only the "special interest" voters work to get their "special interest" candidate voted in. 70 years old or 18 years old, most are not voting at all. How can you complain, if you do not vote? Of course, I do not know if you voted, and I am not accusing anyone. I am only asking, no begging, please vote. Take someone with you to the polls. Voting is the only way we can make a difference. There should not be "career politicians". If you keep voting the same candidates back.....how can you expect anything different?
I don't vote in the primaries because I am not a member of any political party. The primaries are just for their parties to pick their candidates for the election. I do vote in every election. Your contention that I am not acting as a good citizen by not voting in the primaries is offensive to me. I'm not a part of any political party because I do not agree with their philosophies. And like George Washington, I don't agree with the concept of political parties. I think you might need to revise your definition of being a good citizen.

Since: Sep 10

Santa Fe, NM

#11 Sep 18, 2010
Sound off "People must have amnesia to forget the Republicans caused this economic mess. They want the same policies that got us into it. Obama is not a magician. This can't be fixed in two years."

No, we don't have amnesia, we know the facts and the facts show the reason we are in this dilemma is because your anointed one and your party think that Chicago politics and putting more debt on our credit card helps reduce our debt. Your logic is like filling a glass with water, hoping its going to turn to a well aged wine. Not going to happen.
abc123

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Sep 18, 2010
From Sound Off -"Why don't the commissioners let the employees give the county manager an evaluation? Believe me, the man would not be there. He is unapproachable. We have nobody to go to."

I kinda like Brian but there was a time years ago when I had prepared a very thorough and extensive presentation for Mr. Haines in my capacity as a mid-level manger and county employee.(I no longer work there). It might not have been the most important thing on his agenda, I understood that, but the cavalier way he dismissed the mere possibility that I have an audience with him was very discouraging.

To my detriment I let it affect my attitude, with respect to Mr. Haines, more than I probably should have. I figured if my bosses didn't think what I did was important enough to give me fifteen minutes of time, then maybe it wasn't.

Had he entertained my enthusiasm, instead of snuffing it out, everybody concerned would have been better off. That was a black mark on Mr. Haines in my opinion and while I think he is a nice fellow, it stays in the back of my mind, to this day, as a indication of a shortcoming with respect to his ability to manage, or more importantly cultivate, his employees.
LAS CUCES NEW MEXICO

Los Lunas, NM

#13 Sep 18, 2010
Well of course Bush did all this and you expect Obama to clean it up in a flash Bush had eight years to create this mess so why is everybody allways crying about Obama
Truth

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Sep 18, 2010
LAS CUCES NEW MEXICO wrote:
Well of course Bush did all this and you expect Obama to clean it up in a flash Bush had eight years to create this mess so why is everybody allways crying about Obama
It took a lot longer than the Bush presidency for things to get so bad. If you want to play the blame game, the more correct answer is that the problems were perpetrated by all the lifers in congress who lost all touch with reality after their first term and decided the only thing that matters is getting reelected and to heck with the people, the country, morality, truth, fiscal responsibility, etc.
Truth

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Sep 18, 2010
LAS CUCES NEW MEXICO wrote:
Well of course Bush did all this and you expect Obama to clean it up in a flash Bush had eight years to create this mess so why is everybody allways crying about Obama
Oh, and Obama is not cleaning anything up. Every single thing he has done has been wrong, dangerous and destructive (with the single exception being Afghanistan). He has put the path to destruction into hyperdrive warpspeed.

Since: Jun 08

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Sep 18, 2010
Gnu wrote:
SoundOff: "I am over 70 years old and I read in the paper our taxes are going up. Why do the seniors have to keep paying for schools? We haven't had kids in school for 40 years, but yet we keep paying for all these others kids."
I have no kids in school either, but I think all of us should pay for their education. However, I believe it should be our right to direct a good portion of this tax to the school of our choice -- public or private.
You are absolutely correct.

We educate non-citizens and illegals with our taxes but we do not use any of these taxes for citizens and legals that want a good education in a private or religious school. Look at our political leaders, few if any send their children to public schools. Every political leader would be required to send their children to public schools, I bet things would change quickly if this law was passed.

Since: Sep 10

Santa Fe, NM

#17 Sep 18, 2010
LAS CUCES NEW MEXICO wrote:
Well of course Bush did all this and you expect Obama to clean it up in a flash Bush had eight years to create this mess so why is everybody allways crying about Obama
Another liberal crying in their beer saying "Its not my fault." Give Me A Break. Spend, spend, spend. Tax, tax, tax. The liberally challenged motto.

Since: Jun 08

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Sep 18, 2010
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't vote in the primaries because I am not a member of any political party. The primaries are just for their parties to pick their candidates for the election. I do vote in every election. Your contention that I am not acting as a good citizen by not voting in the primaries is offensive to me. I'm not a part of any political party because I do not agree with their philosophies. And like George Washington, I don't agree with the concept of political parties. I think you might need to revise your definition of being a good citizen.
It is your right and you chose not to vote. I am wondering though if you ever vote because if no one in the primaries represents you, when they also represent the same parties in the general election, why vote at all?
Cato

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Sep 18, 2010
Sound Off: "I am over 70 years old and I read in the paper our taxes are going up. Why do the seniors have to keep paying for schools? We haven't had kids in school for 40 years, but yet we keep paying for all these others kids."

It is this sort of mindless selfishness that is responsible for most of the mess this country is in. People who have benefited from the aid of others, gone to schools funded by others, driven on roads paid for others, enjoyed medicare and probably social security far in excess of whatever they put in think they have no obligation to others and that what they own is "Mine, Mine, all Mine!" All this with no concern for the society to which they belong and owe so much and with no thought for the future, when any scientist can tell you that the most important task for any organism is to ensure the survival of a next generation.
I thought this sort of attitude towards school was selfish and short-sighted when I was in high school over 40 years ago, when I had a child at home, and now when I don't. When the downfall of the republic is written, this sort of selfishness will be a large part of the story.

Since: Sep 10

Santa Fe, NM

#20 Sep 18, 2010
Think about it wrote:
Sound-Off: "I am over 70 years old and I read in the paper our taxes are going up. Why do the seniors have to keep paying for schools? We haven't had kids in school for 40 years, but yet we keep paying for all these others kids."
You are paying to educate the citizens of your community. Those students will one day be your elected officials, doctors, cashiers, police/firemen etc.
NO, NO, NO, we don't need any more Richardson's, Denish's, Steinborn's or Mary Jane's ruining The Land of Enchantment, Thank You.

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