Freight train traffic: Suburban leaders seek help from Obama in...

Several suburban state legislators and mayors called on President Barack Obama Wednesday to fill a vacancy on a federal regulatory board with someone sympathetic to their opposition to more freight trains in their communities. Full Story
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KAG

Grayslake, IL

#43 May 14, 2009
Sorry, suburbanites, the trains were there FIRST. Most of you never wanted to pay for railroad grade separation (underpasses, embankments, etc.) that would have greatly eased this problem.

Maybe you suburbanites could move back to Englewood, Austin, and other bad-news areas in the city. We'd love to have you both as taxpayers and as solid citizens reinvigorating bad areas.
Bill-Elgin

Elgin, IL

#44 May 15, 2009
Talk is cheap. Let's see these legislators bring back federal money for MAJOR Overpass/bypass/highway re-routing for this area. Other state's reps are busy getting funding for projects in their districts. They will be happy to take our share of the money as well as their own.
Quickster

United States

#45 May 15, 2009
Paul wrote:
Third Party Hope - the funny thing is that the majority of those rail lines were there long before the houses. Perhaps the real problem is those privaleged ones who think they can just have the world stop so they can live some distance away from everything else, yet make sure they have all the downtown conveniences. Give it time, there will be nothing but expanded cities and wasteland between. You think George Orwell and Jules Verne were mad?
I was pointing out a fact about the conditions of the rail lines and where they are located. It is a sitution that needs to be looked at and corrected. I was under the impression that we elect government officials to solve those type of problems. Who is responsible to maintain the infrastructure the government or the railroad? I do not know but hopefully someone in government does.
Quickster

United States

#46 May 15, 2009
Mike in the Middle wrote:
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You have a few points mixed up. RR rights of way are owned by the RR companies as a matter of property law, not a considered opinion. The RR right of way is just that: A Right of Way. If fact, road crossings, public and private actually cross the RR corridor; non rail traffic is legally obligated to yield to the rail traffic. You can get a ticket if you do not follow this traffic law.
I agree that the matter of locating residential development near tracks needs better attention, and I also agree with those who have posted here that local governments should do a better job when they approve housing development, schools, shopping areas, etc.
As for derailments and cost. Derailments are caused by a lot of factors: Human error, track conditions, RR car condition (most cars are not owned by the RR companies), accidents caused by those who fail to yield the right of way, etc. Not all derailments are the fault of the RR companies. RR companies pay millions of dollars to clean up after derailments. They have to get the track back into service quickly. They use the legal system to recover cost, when they can. RR companies also compensate public services (fire, police, etc) for extra cost caused by derailments.
Operation Lifesaver, for more information
http://www.oli.org/education_resources/rail_s...
http://www.oli.org/education_resources/pedest...
So government can never seize public lands for public goods? Tell that to the people who lost their case in the US Supreme Court. I asked questions in my post because I never take the words of government officials or business leaders at face value when they are lobbing for something. I will always reserve the right to question my government officials about decisions they make and the impact those decisions have. I will also reserve the right to demand that the responsible government entity find solutuions to problems. Your post had some good information but do not be so condensending to people who may not know as much about a particulr subject as you. Because they just turns people off and they will be less likely to listen to you.
Quickster

United States

#47 May 15, 2009
Chet wrote:
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Oh hogwash. If any kid is killed or maimed by a train, it is the sole fault of dumb, inadequate parenting. Most children are taught not to play in the street when there is traffic. Likewise, they should be taught never to play around railroad tracks either. I see no call to halt roadway development when there are children in an area. The railway companies shouldn't have to be so restricted either.
No actually if a student at a school is killed or maimed because the school is located near the tracks the school will be responsible. If a child is kniiled or maimed while playing near his house there will be lawyers lined up waiting to take the case to blame the railroad, the city and who know who else. My point was that poor planning decisions were made all down the road and know someone needs to fix the problems that may come with increased train traffic. Am I wrong in saying that if there is a problem it should be fixed?
midwest rail

Saint Charles, IL

#48 May 15, 2009
The most telling sentence in this story is the local pols' wish that Obama's appt. be someone
"that will protect communities from the unnecessary safety and economic concerns that can be caused by railroad expansion."
Ya gotta love the unmitigated hypocrisy. They had no qualms about allowing developers to build subdivision after subdivision around an EXISTING rail line - but god forbid that rail line return to the traffic levels of yesterday - oh no, cant have that !!
All this story does is underscore the truth - these sad, unproductive, ineffective "leaders" are using this merger as a smokescreen. They hope if they wave their arms and scream loud enuff, no one will notice that the traffic problem in these areas is THEIR fault, and that they've done NOTHING in the past two decades to address it.
Red

Prospect Heights, IL

#49 May 15, 2009
Karl Marx-I oughtta know wrote:
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Obamas visions are a total wet dream. He's a socialist, all they do is talk and squander.
What you and those finger jabbing blowhards like Hannity or Limbaugh don't get is that if it wasn't for that doofus Bush and his cronies we wouldn't have Obama.
Larry

Shorewood, IL

#50 May 16, 2009
midwest rail wrote:
The most telling sentence in this story is the local pols' wish that Obama's appt. be someone
"that will protect communities from the unnecessary safety and economic concerns that can be caused by railroad expansion."
Ya gotta love the unmitigated hypocrisy. They had no qualms about allowing developers to build subdivision after subdivision around an EXISTING rail line - but god forbid that rail line return to the traffic levels of yesterday - oh no, cant have that !!
All this story does is underscore the truth - these sad, unproductive, ineffective "leaders" are using this merger as a smokescreen. They hope if they wave their arms and scream loud enuff, no one will notice that the traffic problem in these areas is THEIR fault, and that they've done NOTHING in the past two decades to address it.
Barrington rejected road improvements for years. Their traffic problems are their own fault.
Larry

Shorewood, IL

#51 May 16, 2009
Quickster wrote:
<quoted text>I was pointing out a fact about the conditions of the rail lines and where they are located. It is a sitution that needs to be looked at and corrected.
Are you saying they should re-locate the rail lines? I am sure the railroad would be happy to do so, if Barrington paid for it. It would cost a lot, akin to draining a lake to prevent a boat from sinking.
M Coleman

Glenwood, IL

#52 May 16, 2009
I don't encounter traffic congestion. But I am sympathetic to the people who do. I'm just tired of paying higher property taxes for a house that's depreciating in value each day and having to hear train whistles and horns when I'm trying to sleep between midnight and 5:00am!
Dave

Wheaton, IL

#53 May 17, 2009
The railroads are not preventing anyone from building roads or bridges. They are establishing quiet zones and landscaping to reduce noise. The new locomotives are quieter then the old ones. Anything further is a want and not a need. Barrington can do all they WANT at the Barrington NIMBYs own expense.
Quickster

Carol Stream, IL

#54 May 18, 2009
Larry wrote:
<quoted text>Are you saying they should re-locate the rail lines? I am sure the railroad would be happy to do so, if Barrington paid for it. It would cost a lot, akin to draining a lake to prevent a boat from sinking.
I was hoping for an actual solution that is why we elect government officials. I never said anything about te-locating the rail lines. But are you saying we should do nothing to correct a problem? If so please call for the elimination of all government bodies since to you they serve no purpose.

Since: Sep 08

Elkhart, IN

#55 May 18, 2009
I hate to point out the obvious, but the railroads are REQUIRED to blow whistles and horns when encountering grade crossings. You need to get your local government unit to either 1 - Apply for an exemption, or 2 - replace grade crossings.
M Coleman wrote:
I don't encounter traffic congestion. But I am sympathetic to the people who do. I'm just tired of paying higher property taxes for a house that's depreciating in value each day and having to hear train whistles and horns when I'm trying to sleep between midnight and 5:00am!
Bill-Elgin

Elgin, IL

#56 May 18, 2009
Quickster wrote:
<quoted text>I was hoping for an actual solution that is why we elect government officials........
The actual solution would be a Barrington bypass. The government officials involved should be working toward getting funding for this project. Other states will be happy to get our money for their projects if our officials waste time, money, and political capitol in anti-CN vendettas. Senator Durbin, talk is cheap, how about bringing back some project funding for this?

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