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Canadian National Fined $250K for Misreporting Crossing Delays

There are 24 comments on the Patch story from Dec 28, 2010, titled Canadian National Fined $250K for Misreporting Crossing Delays. In it, Patch reports that:

A federal regulatory group imposed a $250,000 fine last week on Canadian National Railway, which runs trains through the Chicago suburbs, for not reporting about 1,400 delays it had at crossings.

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Red

Evanston, IL

#21 Jan 18, 2011
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Hey Red,
You were participating in these blogs ("Monster Trains...")back on March 23, 2009 when a link was posted to the unanimous decision made in 2001 by Barrington's Transportation Advisory Committee. They voted to reject both the State proposed and funded Hwy 59 Barrington bypass and the widening of Hough St through the Village of Barrington.
They restated and further reinforced that position in a statement made and again unanimously endorese by all (6) Village trustees in October, 2003.
On page 16 of Barrington's 2007 annual financial report:
"Per this committees recommendations, the Village President
and Board of Trustees drafted in 2002 a position statement calling for improvements to grading, signalization, and train gate coordination along Route 59 in order to improve traf&#64257;c flow. The statement-strongly opposed any widening of Route 59 or the pursuit of a bypass route. The sustainability of this position is yet to be determined."
Red,
Everyone except the (6) Barrington Trustees wanted the Hwy 59 bypass and railroad/vehicular grade separation that would have resulted.
Who did you vote for? Your Village Trustees rejected a State funded bypass and a street widening.
But, you knew this. It was discussed and the documentation was presented 21 months ago.
Red--are you a stooge for Karen Darch?
beagle
I'm no stooge - I live in the area so deal with it every day unlike you. Why is someone in Vancouver so interested ? You go on and on about a 2003 decision on Rte 59 without even mentioning Rte 14 which is perfectly wide thank you and one of the few major north/south roads without grade separation. If US Federal Rte 12 has a grade separation why not US Federal Rte 14 ? I now await your predictable stooge-like reply blaming Darch and local government

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beagle

Vancouver, Canada

#22 Jan 18, 2011
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I'm no stooge - I live in the area so deal with it every day unlike you. Why is someone in Vancouver so interested ? You go on and on about a 2003 decision on Rte 59 without even mentioning Rte 14 which is perfectly wide thank you and one of the few major north/south roads without grade separation. If US Federal Rte 12 has a grade separation why not US Federal Rte 14 ? I now await your predictable stooge-like reply blaming Darch and local government
Good to hear from you Red. Why am I interested? I have answered that before--I used to own a shortline railroad and was appalled by the deliberate misinformation which was being presented by TRAC.

I don't know why Rte 12 does not have a grade separation. But, none of the vehicular crossings in Barrington do. I can't find another community in Chicagoland that has 12 level crossings and not a single grade separated crossing. Kind of suspicious don't you think?

Typically, the agreement between a railroad and a community, state or federal government that allows vehicular traffic to cross the railroad tracks is for a specified period of time. Basically, a government "leases" the right to build a road across the railroad property. If the government wants to improve it by making it a grade separated crossing they (the government) is responsible for the cost.

Both your local government and the railroad have copies of the relevant crossing agreements. Your politicians have all that information available to them--along with the property taxes they receive from the railroads.

Why not ask for the information?(And, like you--I am no ones stooge.) But, I think it likely that Barrington's elected officials "gambled" that the EJ&E would be abandonned--and they "lost". Now, "they" (Barrington) are trying to deflect responsibility amd camouflague their lack of foresight.

Do your own due diligence. Access the original documentation.

beagle

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Red

Evanston, IL

#23 Jan 19, 2011
"Basically, a government "leases" the right to build a road across the railroad property. If the government wants to improve it by making it a grade separated crossing they (the government) is responsible for the cost".

That would depend on who was there first - the road or the railroad.
Also precedent shows that the government has not paid 100% of the cost of constructing grade separated crossings - railroads have historically made a small contribution.
The fat cats at CN can certainly afford it with recent profits well over $1 billion but their silver tongued lobbyists will run circles around the STB so I won't be holding my breath on that one....

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#24 Jan 26, 2011
1/26/2011 CN/EJ&E Update
Illinois commission to monitor CN's EJ&E-related mitigation pacts

The Illinois Commerce Commission (ICC) recently obtained copies of CNís voluntary mitigation agreements with various communities affected by the Elgin, Joliet and Eastern Railway (EJE) integration.

Twenty-one of the agreements, which stipulate certain measures CN will undertake to address train- and safety-related issues, now are available on the commissionís website, www.icc.illinois.gov . The ICC plans to monitor CN's compliance with portions of the agreements that fall under the commissionís jurisdiction, such as measures that affect grade crossing safety.

Twenty-nine Illinois communities are located along the EJE corridor, and CN so far has executed voluntary agreements with 21 of the municipalities. The Class I has agreed to provide about $23 million for quiet zones, safety improvements, noise mitigation and other measures. In addition, the railroad will provide free training for local emergency responders.

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