CN settles rail traffic issues with L...

CN settles rail traffic issues with Long Grove

There are 13 comments on the Chicago Business story from Aug 27, 2010, titled CN settles rail traffic issues with Long Grove. In it, Chicago Business reports that:

Canadian National Railway Co. said Friday that it settled with Long Grove, Ill., on measures to offset traffic and noise from CN's takeover of a local track from another company.

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Chilliwack, Canada

#1 Aug 28, 2010
Long Grove, Il the 23rd out of 33 communities to sign mitigation agreements with CN. Additionally, the "Stop CN" group (TRAC) lists 13 "Municipal Partners" who joined together to have the Surface Transportation Board disallow CN Rail's purchase of the EJ&E.

Of the 13 "Municipal Partners" listed on TRAC's website...8 have signed mitigation agreements with CN. They are--with the dates of the mitigation agreements:

Schererville, In---Dec 11, 2008
Frankfort, Il------Dec 16, 2008
Griffith, In-------Dec 18, 2008
West Chicago, Il---March 4, 2009
Richton Park, Il---March 12, 2009
Hawthorne Woods, Il--Sept 14, 2009
Lake Zurich, Il------Nov 17, 2009
Plainfield, Il-------Dec 9, 2009

The mitigation agreements are voluntary, final, and legally binding. Yet TRAC has not removed these former (8) "Municipal Partners" from the TRAC website. This, is indicative of the lack of diligence and objectivity of the TRAC group.


Lockport, IL

#2 Aug 29, 2010
Now, Beagle, there you go again trying to confuse people with the facts :-)
The few remaining TRAC participants would rather continue to live in Fantasy-land and not be subjected to such inconvenient truths.

Vancouver, Canada

#3 Aug 29, 2010
There are (10) affected communities which have not yet reached mitigation agreements with CN. The five remaining TRAC "Municipal Partners":

Barrington, Il
Aurora, Il
Bartlett, Il
Wayne, Il
Naperville, Il

Aurora, as Co-Chair of TRAC, is in a compromised position because the STB requires that CN fund 67% of the Ogden Road grade separation in Aurora. Impossible for Aurora to argue that CN should be "forced" to comply with the mitigation stipulated by the STB and, conversely disallow the CN/EJ&E transaction.

Another affected community which is not a "Municpal Partner" is Lynwood, Il. The STB requires that CN fund 78.5% of the grade separation of the Lincoln Hwy.


Lockport, IL

#4 Aug 29, 2010
Will County and the Village of New Lenox are also participating in the TRAC lawsuit.
Get the jergens

Greenwood, IN

#5 Aug 29, 2010
Beagle and Gramps should get a room! What a circle jerk this board has become!

Chilliwack, Canada

#6 Aug 29, 2010

From the Southtown Star, Feb 2, 2010:

"CHICAGO New Lenox Mayor Tim Baldermann is "confident" that he soon will be talking to Canadian National Railway officials before the village's battle against the company reaches the courts."

The same article lists the following (9) as being members of TRAC as of February, 2010:

New Lenox, Il
Will County
Dupage County
Barrington Hills

On May 3, 2010 Barrington Hills signed a mitigation agreement with CN, Naperville (I understand) is currently working with CN regarding "quiet zones", and New Lenox is apparently negotiating mitigation.

I neglected to include the TRAC website in my previous posting. It is:

I am sure Ms. K. Darch, lawyer, titular head of the Village of Barrington, recipient of almost 700 votes in her last "landslide election", and Co-Chair of TRAC would gladly accept any cash, cheques, money orders, etc to augment the more than $2,500,000 which the taxpayers of Barrington have unwittingly spent on a doomed cause....of course, Ms. Darch did get re-elected. Perhaps, that is what it was all about in the first place.


Lake Zurich, IL

#7 Sep 1, 2010
Deer Park is another town that has not reached a mitigation agreement with CN and is a member of TRAC

Vancouver, Canada

#8 Sep 18, 2010
Get the jergens wrote:
Beagle and Gramps should get a room! What a circle jerk this board has become!
I am not sure what your point is--whereas, mine has been fairly consistent.

Your local politicians deliberately mislead their constituents into thinking that railroads were just another public utility operating on public lands.

Sometime earlier I had posted that the BNSF railroad was aggressively closing vehicular crossings across BNSF tracks.(All the major railroads have similar programs.) Here is the link to the most recent BNSF press release on the topic. After ten years of the current program the BNSF just closed the 5,000th vehicular road crossing. The agreement between the signatory government body and the railroad lapses and the railroad shuts down the road crossing (after suitable warning). If the local govenment wants to maintain a vehicular crossing--they build an overpass.

It is obvious that the residents of the area could be dramatically affected by the CN takeover of the EJ&E--no argument, just empathy from me. However, it was your local politicians that preyed on your ignorance and mislead you as to the underlying legal principles involved.

Do you think they merit your vote in an upcoming election?


Vancouver, Canada

#9 Sep 18, 2010
Below is a link to the Sept 14, 2010 filing to the STB by the Illinois Dept of Transportation. It is an update of the ongoing discussions/negotiations and Community meetings which have been held regarding the construction of the Ogden Rd and Lynnwood overpasses.

Strange that Ms. Darch has not mentioned any of this. Meanwhile her Co-Chair of TRAC (Mayor of Aurora) has been noticably silent on the whole EJ&E issue.


Vancouver, Canada

#10 Oct 17, 2010
I wonder if Ms. Darch intends to continue the court challenge?


Dallas, TX

#11 Oct 19, 2010
beagle wrote:
I wonder if Ms. Darch intends to continue the court challenge?
Always so nice when Beagle stops playing with his train set in Mom's basement and takes time out of his busy schedule to post. Thanks so much for keeping us up to date and adding your genius remarks. I think your new caboose just came in the better go fetch it...

Lake Zurich, IL

#12 Oct 19, 2010
money just a drop in the bucket:

Vancouver, Canada

#14 Oct 19, 2010
Lionel wrote:
<quoted text>
Always so nice when Beagle stops playing with his train set in Mom's basement and takes time out of his busy schedule to post. Thanks so much for keeping us up to date and adding your genius remarks. I think your new caboose just came in the better go fetch it...
Do yourself a favour. Write a letter to Ms. Darch, or any other politician involved in the CN/EJ&E acquisition. Ask a simple question:

"Who owns the land underneath the railroad tracks?"

Then, look up the the Fifth Amendement to the US constitution--better yet--here it is:

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

Perhaps you would like to present a rational discussion instead of resorting to name calling. After all, it is you, not I, that has "skin" in this transaction. If you can't rise to the challenge (and this is pretty simplistic stuff) you are destined to drown in the quagmire of your own feelings of self-entitlement.


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