Train traffic begins to increase on f...

Train traffic begins to increase on former EJ&E line

There are 21 comments on the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen story from Mar 8, 2009, titled Train traffic begins to increase on former EJ&E line. In it, Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen reports that:

JOLIET, Ill. - More trains are using the old Elgin, Joliet & Eastern rail line. And at some point, there will be even more.

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Choo Choo

Winnemucca, NV

#1 Mar 8, 2009
Enjoy!

Just think of the jobs this is creating instead of complaining.
Voice of Common Sense

Frankfort, IL

#2 Mar 9, 2009
They have done nothing but eliminate jobs so far.

Since: Nov 07

Detroit, MI

#3 Mar 9, 2009
As I've mentioned before, in a year the Nimby antics we have all been confronted with over the past year and a half will all be history and the trains added to the Jay will hardly be noticed by the locals. In the meantime (if they are paying attention) taxpayers will begin to question the wisedom of why their elected officials decided to waste millions of taxpayer dollars fighting this whole thing. All the while their neighboring towns (who had adults in charge) were able to attain from CN excellent settlement terms that are somewhat unprecedented in these types of transactions, which are quite common in the industry.
Not a Railroader

Omaha, NE

#4 Mar 9, 2009
I wonder, the dateline on this story was Friday March 6th. On Wednesday March 4th the Chicago Tribune ran a story that said CN was not ready to announce reroutes. It quoted CN spokesman who said they have "no plans yet to reroute freight traffic." Now we see this story in the Wheaten Sun that says more trains are using the EJ&E, yet all that they cite is the fact that the 30 day waiting period expired on Wednesday the 4th. They don't quote any of CN's spokesman, just one Will County board member who said, "On Wednesday, a 30-day waiting period expired, allowing the Canadian National Railway to begin increasing the traffic on their newly acquired tracks." ALLOWING does not mean that they HAVE increased traffic.
From what I see, given the statements by CN and others in the Tribune article, this article is using inference to say that something has happened that might not yet have happened. What sloppy reporting.
beagle

Coquitlam, Canada

#5 Mar 9, 2009
Voice of Common Sense wrote:
They have done nothing but eliminate jobs so far.
Dear Voice (totally lacking in) Common Sense,

Weekly railcar loadings for the W/E Feb 28, 2009 vs W/E Feb 28, 2008 have dropped 100,000. That is, from 675,000 to 575,000 loadings. The weekly loading of new vehicles (cars,pick up trucks) are down 48.6% year over year.

Four million Americans have lost their jobs in the last 6 months.

What is your point?

Why don't you go and buy a few thousand Yukon SUV's so that the Janesville GM plant & the US Steel & Arecelor Mittal can recall some laid off workers?

Or should the North American economy and the effeciency of its railroad infrastructure be held hostage by the intrasigence of the elected officials of a few small minded villages in Illinois who refused to negotiate?

beagle
hmmm

Joliet, IL

#6 Mar 9, 2009
Railroads sure have a lot of overly sensitive lobbyists monitoring the topix boards. Geez you guys on the payroll or what?
Lokp

Pleasant Grove, UT

#7 Mar 9, 2009
I think you are all jealous 'cause you don't get to blow the horn.
White Whale

United States

#8 Mar 9, 2009
Glad to see they stopped playing with their train sets in the basment and took time to post a comment...
Verplunkt

Torrance, CA

#9 Mar 9, 2009
Glad to see the strokes in Barrington lose for once.
Voice of Common Sense

Frankfort, IL

#10 Mar 10, 2009
I know all that. I was mearly responding to the statement that it will create jobs.

Get a life.
beagle wrote:
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Dear Voice (totally lacking in) Common Sense,
Weekly railcar loadings for the W/E Feb 28, 2009 vs W/E Feb 28, 2008 have dropped 100,000. That is, from 675,000 to 575,000 loadings. The weekly loading of new vehicles (cars,pick up trucks) are down 48.6% year over year.
Four million Americans have lost their jobs in the last 6 months.
What is your point?
Why don't you go and buy a few thousand Yukon SUV's so that the Janesville GM plant & the US Steel & Arecelor Mittal can recall some laid off workers?
Or should the North American economy and the effeciency of its railroad infrastructure be held hostage by the intrasigence of the elected officials of a few small minded villages in Illinois who refused to negotiate?
beagle
Voice of Common Sense

Frankfort, IL

#11 Mar 10, 2009
By the way, today is the first day they are diverting their trains around Chicago via the J
pete

Evergreen Park, IL

#12 Mar 10, 2009
Voice of Common Sense wrote:
I know all that. I was mearly responding to the statement that it will create jobs.
Get a life.
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trust me they are not creating any jobs for anyone,I work for them now unfortunately and they havent created anything,they did cut out overtime for any of us
yup

Mission Hills, CA

#13 Mar 10, 2009
I caught my first train today in Plainfield. It did not seem so bad. Thou, I am sure that when the economy picks it will be a nightmare.
Voice of Common Sense

Frankfort, IL

#14 Mar 12, 2009
pete wrote:
<quoted text>trust me they are not creating any jobs for anyone,I work for them now unfortunately and they havent created anything,they did cut out overtime for any of us
I can't say that I feel sorry for you. The economy is terrible, people all over are losing their jobs including your co-workers and you're going to cry about losing overtime? Maybe you should have had more brains than to get yourself in a position where you depend on the overtime. Maybe you should be thankful to be working for the highest paying railroad in the country. People like you really make me sick.
pete

Tinley Park, IL

#15 Mar 14, 2009
Voice of Common Sense wrote:
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I can't say that I feel sorry for you. The economy is terrible, people all over are losing their jobs including your co-workers and you're going to cry about losing overtime? Maybe you should have had more brains than to get yourself in a position where you depend on the overtime. Maybe you should be thankful to be working for the highest paying railroad in the country. People like you really make me sick.
when we were not owned by the CN we made money, how is that my fault? overtime was always there,I didnt have a choice in them taking us over
Voice of Common Sense

Frankfort, IL

#16 Mar 15, 2009
If you can't figure it out I will go back to your lack of having brains. Yeah you might not have had a choice in them taking you over but so what. You had a choice in how you budgeted your earnings. If I had to bet one way or the other I'd bet you have either a new vehicle, a boat, motorcycle or some other type of recreational vehicle, a flat screen TV or some other things that were't exactly things you could afford considering your now whining about how you aren't making enough. Do you have at least 8 months of emergency money in case they lay you off all together?
pete wrote:
<quoted text>when we were not owned by the CN we made money, how is that my fault? overtime was always there,I didnt have a choice in them taking us over
Bill-Elgin

Geneva, IL

#17 Mar 16, 2009
Voice of Common Sense wrote:
If you can't figure it out I will go back to your lack of having brains. Yeah you might not have had a choice in them taking you over but so what. You had a choice in how you budgeted your earnings. If I had to bet one way or the other I'd bet you have either a new vehicle, a boat, motorcycle or some other type of recreational vehicle, a flat screen TV or some other things that were't exactly things you could afford considering your now whining about how you aren't making enough. Do you have at least 8 months of emergency money in case they lay you off all together?
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Railroads typically pay substantially less per hour then other employers for the same work. They usually make it up to the employees by running a lot of overtime. The problem comes in when the overtime is cut. The employees have no choice but to work the hours if they want to pay their bills, they are not independently wealthy. They are trying to make a living like everyone else. That being said, the entire economy is going down and everyone is going to have to adjust to lower standards of living.
HAHAHA

Coaldale, Canada

#18 Mar 16, 2009
Voice of Common Sense wrote:
If you can't figure it out I will go back to your lack of having brains. Yeah you might not have had a choice in them taking you over but so what. You had a choice in how you budgeted your earnings. If I had to bet one way or the other I'd bet you have either a new vehicle, a boat, motorcycle or some other type of recreational vehicle, a flat screen TV or some other things that were't exactly things you could afford considering your now whining about how you aren't making enough. Do you have at least 8 months of emergency money in case they lay you off all together?
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Wow...aren't you a self righteous person. You sure sound like you got it all figured out. I believe Pete was just trying to live the American dream like everyone else. After working for CN for the past 11 years, I've come to the conclusion that the dream will never come alive for most people. It's a dream based on lies and unless you have deep pockets it will never come to light. CN is just another great example of why corprate america is absolutely hated on the world scene. Greed and bullshit is what drives the machine. How's the dream working for you lately. Your corporations have done a wonderfull job of screwing over the world economy or maybe you have your head too far up your ass to see what's going on. What a retard!!:-)
Voice of Common Sense

Frankfort, IL

#19 Mar 16, 2009
Correct me if I'm wrong but CN typically pays between $30 and $38 per hour and pays it's train crews for a minimum of 10 hours each day so between $300 and $380 a day plus any overtime you might make which I understand has been drastically cut back. This is for employees that don't need any college, just a high school diploma. They also have matching 401k, a matching stock purchase plan, railroad retirement instead of social security, and good health and dental insurance to name just a few of their benefits. Oh, and I'm told that many of their employees have a guarantee that they will have a job for life as long as they comply with the rules and when economic times are bad like they are now the railroad pays them "guarantee pay" where they get paid for sitting at home because there isn't enough work for them to be needed to come in.

Let me pull my head out of my ass so I can see clearly how that is such a terrible job.

Explain to me how you have had it so rough for the last 11 years and why you've been there that whole time if it's so bad. I'm guessing that it's a good job and it was your best thinking that got you there because if you could have done better you would have.
HAHAHA wrote:
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Wow...aren't you a self righteous person. You sure sound like you got it all figured out. I believe Pete was just trying to live the American dream like everyone else. After working for CN for the past 11 years, I've come to the conclusion that the dream will never come alive for most people. It's a dream based on lies and unless you have deep pockets it will never come to light. CN is just another great example of why corprate america is absolutely hated on the world scene. Greed and bullshit is what drives the machine. How's the dream working for you lately. Your corporations have done a wonderfull job of screwing over the world economy or maybe you have your head too far up your ass to see what's going on. What a retard!!:-)
HAHAHA

Coaldale, Canada

#20 Mar 17, 2009
Voice of Common Sense wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but CN typically pays between $30 and $38 per hour and pays it's train crews for a minimum of 10 hours each day so between $300 and $380 a day plus any overtime you might make which I understand has been drastically cut back. This is for employees that don't need any college, just a high school diploma. They also have matching 401k, a matching stock purchase plan, railroad retirement instead of social security, and good health and dental insurance to name just a few of their benefits. Oh, and I'm told that many of their employees have a guarantee that they will have a job for life as long as they comply with the rules and when economic times are bad like they are now the railroad pays them "guarantee pay" where they get paid for sitting at home because there isn't enough work for them to be needed to come in.
Let me pull my head out of my ass so I can see clearly how that is such a terrible job.
Explain to me how you have had it so rough for the last 11 years and why you've been there that whole time if it's so bad. I'm guessing that it's a good job and it was your best thinking that got you there because if you could have done better you would have.
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Wow you need help!! First of all I've been here for 22 years. It's just the last 11 years that have been ridiculous. You really shouldn't put so much stock into the rumors that you hear. We had the luxury of watching Hunter Harrison screw his own fellow americans with the hourly rate of pay. So if you're working the road up here we get payed by the mile and aren't crazy enough to negotiate an hourly rate of pay. Having said that... the unfortunate souls who have to work the yards up here do get an hourly rate of pay but it's no where near the $380 a day that again you heard of. Yes the company does match us as far as our pension plan goes. No to CN matching us on our stock purchase plan. That would be in place for respectable corporations. Yes some spareboards do have guarantees attatched to them that were initiated by the company. But if you have to work for the quarantee, it effectively negates any social and family life you may have. At that point they own your ass 24/7. What you have to realize is that in Canada we couldn't give 2 shits about the american dream of a psychotic CEO. Yes we make a good living but we're not as money hungry as you for instance. By the way... I do have 4 years of university under my belt. Sorry your post secondary education has failed you personally. If the RUMORS sound so appealling, why not come up here and try your hand at railroading. Guaranteed your ass would be fired inside of a year but at least you could experience how great you think we have it up here Bottom line: Yes the job is still good, it's working for an american psycho that we have issues with. Hopefully you'll get rid of the chip on your shoulder and maybe applaud guys like Pete for trying to live the american dream. Sorry you dream isn't working for you personally.

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