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Plainfield, IN

#1 Feb 25, 2011
What is going on? This forum has been too quiet for too long. Have the ones fighting Pilgrim in the lawsuits given up or what? What is going on with the lawsuit? Is there any news? I just want you to know that because of reading this forum, I refuse to buy Pilgrim products when I go to the grocery store. I know I do not count for much, but maybe if everybody reads about your situation, maybe everybody would quit buying Pilgrim's. Keep fighting!!!
truck driver

Wilmar, AR

#2 Feb 26, 2011
It is my understanding the growers are preparing to take their lawsuit to court in June. I also understand their lawyers urged them to keep a tight lid on the evidence they have compiled against Pilgrim's Pride.

Since: Aug 10

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#3 Feb 27, 2011
Truck driver is right on target. We start depositions next week. Pilgrims is sparing no expense in trying to squash our efforts to bring them to justice. No company should ever again be allowed to do to the farmers, and to the communities, the intentional, and uncaring harm that Pilgrims Pride served up on so many people. They were and are being driven by greed, and if allowed to get away with it, will continue to serve such up, again, and again. I wish all the people in this nation would wake up, and realize that as long as these greedy managers in these companies, that are referred to as big business, are allowed to opperate in like manor, without people standing up and saying no more, we will not take this any more, then they will continue to do as they please, hurt whomever they choose, and opperate with impunity, never fearing anyone, or anything. It is not set in stone that big business must be allowed to operate in such manor. I do not conduct business in such a manor, and I believe that business can and must be conducted in a moral and ethical way. Until more people stand up for themselves, their neighbors, their communities, then these companies will continue to do as they will, buy who they want, and destroy all who stand in their way, by what ever means they choose. In our case, we will be subjected to very high priced, word bending lawyers, whose only goal is to squash us in any way that they can. If the poultry farmers in El Dorado Arkansas loose, then all the poultry farmers in the United States will loose. This battle is that epic, and the poultry industry know this. They are fighting for the right to keep their boot on the farmers throats, and to keep the control, the tyranny, that they have worked so hard for. We have a great country, founded by great men and women of integrity, it is a shame that people are so willing to give control of it over to bullies, and thieves.
no more free money

Sanford, NC

#4 Feb 28, 2011
I think the reason you don't hear the chicken grower saying a lot these days is because they got
money from Rep. Bob Etheridge Disaster Assistance Funds. I hear they got somewhere around 100,000.00 for each grower to do what they wanted with it. This was part of a $60 Million dollar aid to Lost Poultry Contract Assistance from our goverment. I don't know about you but when we lost our jobs and bussiness nobody gave us anything. I know the farmer are important but they all get a lot of goverment help and the people pay on both ends.
truck driver

Wilmar, AR

#5 Mar 1, 2011
We need to protect our farmers. If the government can bail out the big banks, who produce absolutely nothing, shouldn't we make sure that our farmers are protected? Farmers are responsible for the food you eat. You can't eat money. Go to some of the impoverished countries in the world and take a good look at what the lack of food looks like. We are extremely fortunate and take the abudance of food for granted in this country. We are headed down a slippery slope with the continuing takeover of all our food sources by large global agricultural conglomerates.
gator44

Gainesville, GA

#6 Mar 1, 2011
I work for GoLD kIST FOR 30 YEARS AND WHEN PILGRIMS TOOK OVER ,I WAS OUT THE DOOR IN A LITTLE OVER A YEAR.THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE ..PERIOD... AT THE PLANT I WORKED AT IN FLORIDA THEY WERE DUMPING THOUSANDS OF POUNDS OF MEAT OUT THE BACK DOOR IN RENDERING FOR OVER A YEAR BECAUSE OF MECHANICAL ISSUES..IM SURE THE TOP BOSSES NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT
Ex Grower

United States

#7 Mar 1, 2011
I am one of the many Pilgrim growers who were cut off. Not because of the plant closures, I was cut off because I did not see that it was feasible to invest another $300,000 to upgrade to suit the company. But I did not get a penny from any government agency to help me. I am sitting here with some good hay barns, but struggling to pay bills. The best help the government could do is to force Pilgrims to settle this situation. But there is no help there either.

Since: Aug 10

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#8 Mar 4, 2011
It is not an uncommon occurance that poultry farmers are presented with choices that most people outside the industry are not aware of. Things such as requiring growers to buy and install equipment that the farmer knows that he/she will never recoupe the investment. Almost without exception, all upgrades that farmers are asked to incorporate into their farming enterprise by these integrators, only benifit the integrator, while leaving the grower deeper and deeper in debt. No farmer ever wants government money, but it is government officials who allow these corporations to abuse the farmers, all the while taking huge "donations" and such from these integrators. It is a well known truth, but a truth that is taboo to speak of. As long as corruption is allowed to flourish with these integrators, and these politicians who also benifit from such corrpution, then this nation will continue down the path to destruction. When good People stand by and make excuses for evil, and make comments such as, "thats just big buisness", then our nation will continue to crumble. I myself will continue to fight against these evil minded people. Ethics and morality must prevail, it must be reintroduced into business, and made to be a foundation stone where integrity is not just something you read about in history books.
truck driver

Warren, AR

#9 Mar 5, 2011
The unbelievable aspect of this entire situation is the continuing building of new poultry houses. With hundreds of fairly new poultry houses sitting empty there are new houses being built. I thought the reason for cancelling grower contracts was due to the glut in the poultry market. Why on earth are new houses being built while hundreds of houses sit empty? I recently drove by a farm near Hope, Ark. where six new houses are under construction for Pilgrim's Pride.
Sympathy

United States

#10 Mar 5, 2011
They need the houses. There was no glut in the poultry market. They were trying to force out the ones who would not invest thousands more to upgrade. Upgrades that were not neccessary. If you look around at the ones forced out, you will see that most of them are older people. They were still able to grow chickens but too old to get out and get a job. That is what is so pitiful about this whole situation. These older folks are sitting there with this huge debt and no way to pay it. Now they are worried about even having enough money to live on for the rest of their lives. Think about what kind of "retirement" they are looking at. Some have lost or looking at losing everything they have. Homes, land everything. Some of the land is family land that has been in the family for generations. They wanted it to be there for their children and grandchildren. Now what????

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#11 Mar 16, 2011
It has been brought to my attention that the law firm that is representing Pilgrims Pride Corporation is reported to be the largest law firm in the world. They, Pilgrims Pride, are pulling out all the stops to squash us, the El Dorado Farmers, in any way that they can. If they are allowed to get away with what they have done to us, and our community, then no one will ever be able to stop them from doing the same, if not worse things in the future. The poultry farmers, coast to coast need to realize that the quality of their future as farmers rides heavily on the outcome of this lawsuit. We must send a strong message, loud and clear, that we will not, and can not tolerate the actions of any agricultural corporation that would use fraud, coercion, financial blackmail, or any other form of manupulative tactics, to control, or persuade farmers to do things that are contrary to the well being of that farmer, or that farmers business. We will not roll over and give up, we will continue to fight, and continue to hope that more and more people will come forward and testify, and expose for all people to plainly see, just how terrible this company has acted in the past, how badly that they are acting, and the pattern for how they may act in the future unless they are forced to change. Bullies use fear to intimidate, and maintain power over others. They will never stop, unless made to do so. It is unfortunate when people, "Pilgrims Pride" corporately choose to step on others, "Poultry Farmers and Surrounding Community" and subject them to injustices, in order to propel their own sucesses, and satisify their own greed. In business there is a right, ethical, and moral way to do things, and a wrong way to do things. It does not require a rocket scientist to figure out that Pilgrims Management has a severe disconnect with such ethical standards. The real question may be, has our society gone down that immoral, unethical road so far that such business practices are to be considered the norm, or will our society take a real hard look at itself, and decide that there is no real future in such potential chaos.
Curious

Winchester, KY

#12 Mar 23, 2011
Did the El Dorado growers ever do the depositions? Never heard whether they did or not. Knew they were scheduled but know that if Pilgrims could put a monkey wrench in the timing, they would. It is time to get this all on schedule that they can not delay.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#13 Mar 24, 2011
We have been giving depositions, and it is my understanding that they are still ongoing. I do think that Pilgrims is trying to work it around to get court delayed. It seems that they are playing games designed to buy them more time, when in fact they are doing nothing but spitting in the face of the Judge that ordered them into mediation with the farmers. This court ordered mediation has been a farce on the part of Pilgrims, while we the farmers did all that we were asked to do. We have a strong case, and are ready to get to court, so we can get this over, and get on with our lives. Noone should ever have to go thru again, what this company did to our community, our friends, our neighbors.

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