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Apr 5, 2008
 
NYCPBA wrote:
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What,, are you a freaking heab lawyer?
The J.E.W. boy was drinking and the cops in E Hampton are instructed to cut the wealthly a break,, because they pay our salary.
Ah, I see the benevolence of the NYCPBA doesn't extend to suppressing anti-Semitism. Nice.
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Apr 5, 2008
 
the new sound wrote:
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wrong on BOTH counts.
Care to cite documentation?
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#74
Apr 5, 2008
 
an American wrote:
If I had left the scene of an accident to go home I would have been arrested.....why wasn't seinfeld arrested???????
As said in the article, because no other vehicles were involved and because there was no damage to public or another's property, a determination was made by the police on the scene that he would not be arrested.
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Apr 5, 2008
 
NYCPBA wrote:
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What,, are you a freaking heab lawyer?
The J.E.W. boy was drinking and the cops in E Hampton are instructed to cut the wealthly a break,, because they pay our salary.
And another thing: if you're going to throw around racial epithets, at least learn to spell Heeb.
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Apr 5, 2008
 
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The police cut the "famous" a break, Jewish or not. You are an idiot.
Perhaps there is some truth to this, but I once had an accident involving no other vehicles, but damage to public property. When the Suffolk County police asked if I'd been drinking I told them the truth - that I'd had one beer. They didn't give me a breathalyser and I wasn't given any kind of citation for damage to property. Of course my insurance had to pay for it.

So maybe he caught a break because he's famous or maybe he caught a break for the same reason I did - the police realized it was an innocent accident with no malice or wrongdoing behind it and decided it wasn't worth it.
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Apr 5, 2008
 
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I believe the Chief was using his knee pads while calling Jerry a hero. Hero my rear end. The guy had an accident and by luck managed not to kill someone. Soldiers, firefighters, cops - they are heros. Not some wealthy comedian who need to have his publicist follow him.
You people are stupid. Obviously hero is going to far, but many people in his situation wouldn't be willing to wreck unless absolutely necessary. He seems to value his life more and his car...
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Apr 5, 2008
 
Jason wrote:
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Care to cite documentation?
Brakes must be adequate to control the vehicle at all times. All brakes must be in good working order and must
comply with the Standards of Brake Efficiency as follows:
 Service Brakes - brakes applied to every wheel - must be capable of stopping a vehicle within 30 feet from
20 miles per hour.

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If you are in an accident, you are required by the NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law to stop and exchange information with the involved drivers. If the accident caused property damage only, then exchange information about your driver license, insurance, and registration with the involved drivers. If a parked vehicle or other property is damaged, or if a domestic animal is injured, you must locate the owner or contact the police.
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Apr 5, 2008
 
Eric wrote:
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You people are stupid....
And you are a penis head.
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Apr 5, 2008
 
the new sound wrote:
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Brakes must be adequate to control the vehicle at all times. All brakes must be in good working order and must
comply with the Standards of Brake Efficiency as follows:
 Service Brakes - brakes applied to every wheel - must be capable of stopping a vehicle within 30 feet from
20 miles per hour.
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If you are in an accident, you are required by the NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law to stop and exchange information with the involved drivers. If the accident caused property damage only, then exchange information about your driver license, insurance, and registration with the involved drivers. If a parked vehicle or other property is damaged, or if a domestic animal is injured, you must locate the owner or contact the police.
I'll concede the first point, fair enough, except to say that it isn't necessarily the driver's fault if the brakes fail. Yet most of the comment posts here seem to want Seinfeld to hang because his brakes failed.
As far as reporting accidents goes, I made no comment regarding that point of law. My second point was about the failure to administer a breathalyser. In my opinion (and I'm no lawyer and I don't know the case law involved in this) lacking any credible evidence on the spot forcing someone to take a breath test is an illegal search.
But to comment on the issue regarding reporting an accident - the circumstances you describe are not those of the Seinfeld accident. According to the police (hence their reason for not issuing a ticket or making an arrest) no other vehicles were involved and there was no property damage. In such a case what is the legality of reporting? As one person said in another comment, if I accidentally hit a tree at low speed and damage only my vehicle, am I required to report that?
All of this seems moot to me anyway because the ONLY reason we're talking about this is because it was a celebrity. People love to see celebrities take a fall and get arrested. It reminds us that celebrities are also human and make mistakes. But I'd bet almost anything that these same people insisting that Seinfeld should have been arrested would be screaming at the top of their lungs about the injustice if they had been in his position and arrested or ticketed for what happened.
Let's not forget the three-ring circus that Winona Ryder went through after being arrested for shoplifting. Do you honestly think a non-celebrity would have faced a criminal trial for that? No, a plea-bargain would have been struck, but in her case the prosecutor refused to accept a plea-bargain, instead opting to make an example of her status.
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Apr 5, 2008
 
Jerry Jerry Jerry
Not about YOU
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Apr 6, 2008
 
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The police cut the "famous" a break, Jewish or not. You are an idiot.
You are both idiots! The EHTPD doesn't cut anyone breaks ... rich, famous or IDIOTS like YOU! Guess you got busted and have a bone to pick, huh? If you had half a brain or any insight, you'd know you were spewing a bunch of BS. Gotta love LI, full of know it alls who know a whole lotta nothing! Glad I moved.
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#83
Apr 6, 2008
 
Hero??? I think not. Heroes are "OUR" son's and daughters that are serving in the armed forces.
Seinfeld a hero? Give me a break!!!
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Apr 6, 2008
 
Who cares ???? Teddy Kennedy didn't even get this much coverage.
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#85
Apr 6, 2008
 
Jerry, you truly are a hero. The normal person would have sped up through the intersection. What would we do in this world without stars like you. You have encouraged me beyond belief and I applaud you for that. The inspiration the you gave me will now force me to bash my head through a wall because I now consider myself a loser.

FahhhhhQ and all the people who claim you to be heroic.
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#86
Apr 7, 2008
 
waaaaay back in the smallprint of the paperwork you fill out to get your NYS drivers license is your agreement to submit to a breath test at the request of a police officer at their request. Failure to do so can result in a suspended license. Real world? A report should have been taken. Did he get a a pass because he's a multi-millionaire and could afford to pay all damages out of pocket? Probably...
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Apr 14, 2008
 
Jason wrote:
'bad brakes' is not a ticket-able offense. If the vehicle had a valid inspection certificate then it's not the driver's fault.
Re: DWI, if you read the article the police said he exhibited no signs he'd been drinking. Absent probable cause, the administration a breathalyser or blood test would be an illegal search violating your 4th amendment rights.
No, bad brakes is not a ticketable offense, however section 375-1(a) states that every vehicle shall have adequate brakes. If your vehicle does not, it IS a ticketable offense. You should know your facts before making a claim.
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#89
Apr 14, 2008
 
The driver is responsible for the driving and operating condition of the vehicle. It doesnt matter whose vehicle it is either. If you drive you brothers car, he didnt get his vehicle inspected and you get pulled over, you get the summons. Not your brother.
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Apr 15, 2008
 
NYFinest wrote:
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No, bad brakes is not a ticketable offense, however section 375-1(a) states that every vehicle shall have adequate brakes. If your vehicle does not, it IS a ticketable offense. You should know your facts before making a claim.
So, as an officer, you would give the operator a ticket on the theory that he knowingly operated an unsafe vehicle and try to convince a judge that there was not a catastrophic failure of the brakes? I'd bet you lose that one.
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#91
Apr 25, 2008
 
The days of losing ones brakes suddenly pretty much came to an end with the advent of hydraulic brakes. If the car had cable actuated brakes (REAL old antique car)it's possible but still unlikely. Lets be real, he was speeding and crashed. End of story.
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Apr 28, 2008
 
Mr Turk wrote:
The days of losing ones brakes suddenly pretty much came to an end with the advent of hydraulic brakes. If the car had cable actuated brakes (REAL old antique car)it's possible but still unlikely. Lets be real, he was speeding and crashed. End of story.
not true at all. if your master cylinder goes or their is some other leak in the hydraulic system you could easily have a total failure. believe me, my 1960 VW beetle had one. luckily i grabbed the emergency brake (cable) and stopped just short of a fence.
since this was a car the driver was not completely familiar with he might not have noticed that the brakes might have been spongy, if they actually were, before a total loss.
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