Wind farms affect local weather

Wind farms can affect weather in their immediate locality, raising night-time temperatures on the ground, researchers working in Texas have shown. The result - published in the journal Nature Climate Change - confirms an earlier, smaller study from 2010.

Having averaged the data, the researchers say the scale of the effect they saw is equivalent to a warming of about 0.72C per decade. "Daytime temperatures do not appear to be affected. This makes sense, (and) this same strategy is commonly used by fruit growers who fly helicopters over their orchards to combat early morning frosts."

[tina anne]

Another study for alarmist to claim is a lie. Another nail in the coffin of AGW.

[The Truth Matters]

Now we know at least where some of the night time warming is coming from. Add night warming from UHI and the effect of CO2 is even less than claimed. It just keeps adding up against the AGW alarmists.

[Fair Game]

*Local*, idiots.

Nothing to do with AGW.

[tina anne]

Except making the local area warmer than the area around it. Considering how you want to make wind a global source and the research would indicate that instead of reducing the warming it would increase it.

A case of the cure being worse than the problem.

[tina anne]

Funny thing is that one can consider a coal fired power plant to be just as local.

[Fair Game]

tina anne wrote:

Funny thing is that one can consider a coal fired power plant to be just as local.

Er, no.

A power station puts its CO2 into the atmosphere, which is *global*.

[Earthling-1]

FuGyou wrote:

Er, no.
A power station puts its CO2 into the atmosphere, which is *global*.

Everything and anything we do that makes heat gets into the atmosphere, "which is *global*."

[litesong]

steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling wrote:

Everything and anything we do that makes heat gets into the atmosphere, "which is *global*."

"steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling" falls flat again.

Of course, no such warming mechanism is involved. Fans are run by motors which put out heat. Wind turbines have no motors. Fans accelerate air. Wind turbines slow air. & in that context is the warming mechanism. As moving air passes by turbine blades, energy from the moving air is transferred to move blades & copper coils through a magnetic field to generate electricity. The moving air passing through the the blades loses energy thus slowing, increasing its density, & concentrating its remaining energy in spot warming.

Just spot warming(as the article says).... not global warming as "steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling" would like you to conclude. The warm local air is extracting heat from the surrounding aerial region. More accurate studies would show a slight decrease in temperatures away from the wind turbine sites.

Because "steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling" is a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig, he is NOT worth believing. Since he has no hi skule deegreee with no upper level chemistry, science, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc, he is not worth believing on matters of science.

[Long-Dead Larry]

a note to Big Chief Wind-in-pants Litlesong - generators make heat. Try touching an alternator on a car while it is running. But who would expect a warmie to have any idea at all of science or basic physics, or to understand how anything works? Warmies are a kind of faith bases religion.

[Long-Dead Larry]

Fair Game wrote:

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Er, no.
A power station puts its CO2 into the atmosphere, which is *global*.

and heat goes into the atmosphere, which is global.

[tina anne]

litesong wrote:

<quoted text>
"steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling" falls flat again.
Of course, no such warming mechanism is involved. Fans are run by motors which put out heat. Wind turbines have no motors. Fans accelerate air. Wind turbines slow air. & in that context is the warming mechanism. As moving air passes by turbine blades, energy from the moving air is transferred to move blades & copper coils through a magnetic field to generate electricity. The moving air passing through the the blades loses energy thus slowing, increasing its density, & concentrating its remaining energy in spot warming.
Just spot warming(as the article says).... not global warming as "steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling" would like you to conclude. The warm local air is extracting heat from the surrounding aerial region. More accurate studies would show a slight decrease in temperatures away from the wind turbine sites.
Because "steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling" is a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig, he is NOT worth believing. Since he has no hi skule deegreee with no upper level chemistry, science, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc, he is not worth believing on matters of science.

You forgot friction. Anything that moves on earth creates friction. Those blades generate friction with the air, turning a generator which generates even more friction. And what does friction generate, heat. Grade school physics.

[Long-Dead Larry]

tina anne wrote:

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You forgot friction. Anything that moves on earth creates friction. Those blades generate friction with the air, turning a generator which generates even more friction. And what does friction generate, heat. Grade school physics.

don't expect Big Chief Turd-in-Pants Litesong to understand that.

[Earthling-1]

Long-Dead Larry wrote:

don't expect Big Chief Turd-in-Pants Litesong to understand that.

To be correct, it's litesong,(ALWAYS SMALL LETTERS):
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
But he's best known as litesout or litesoff.

He doesn't seem to use his other pen name of albedodown (libidodown) much these days.