Report: U.K. greased Lockerbie bomber's release

Full story: MSNBC

Intense political pressures and "commercial warfare" waged by the regime of Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi led to last year's release of the "unrepentant terrorist" who blew up Pam Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, according to a new report prepared by four U.S. senators.

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Dec 21, 2010
 
does this really surprise anyone????????

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Dec 21, 2010
 
It's utterly depressing.

Yes, it surprises me, but really, it shouldn't with our previous government's track record at home.
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Dec 21, 2010
 
Dud Twenties wrote:
<quoted text>I think we all guessed it, but didn't want to think Labour would sink that low in appeasing islam.
lol..Really?Labour has done nothing "but" bend it's treacherous arse over for these dark age subhuman retards.
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Dec 21, 2010
 
I think the four US senators are wrong. Democratic Senator Bob Menendez & Frank Lautenberg were two. Anyone know who the other two were? Says more about them than about Mr MacAskill.(I am not a supporter of his or his political party, by the way). He has won praise from me for the right decision based on the info at the time.

The report leading this thread gives the impression he is living a life of luxury. I believe he is very ill and probably has only survived this long due to being sent home to top quality medical care.
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Dec 22, 2010
 
EdSed wrote:
I believe he is very ill and probably has only survived this long due to being sent home to top quality medical care.
don't really care what the reason is.....he should have never been released. he should have been forced to live out his "death sentence" of ill health where he was....no differently than the death he gave the passsengers over lockerbie. too bad gadhafi wasn't on the plane.
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Dec 22, 2010
 
just dont get it wrote:
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don't really care what the reason is.....he should have never been released. he should have been forced to live out his "death sentence" of ill health where he was....no differently than the death he gave the passsengers over lockerbie. too bad gadhafi wasn't on the plane.
A very natural opinion to hold, of course.

Whatever opinion one holds, what you suggest wouldn't normally be tolerated in Scotland. The majority of Scots were against Megrahi's release, but that is more because they were unconvinced he would die within six months than because they are in favour of people dying in prison. They also felt more sympathetic towards grieving families of the victims than Megrahi & his family. There is natural concern not to inflict more pain. All that does not mean the report by these senators was balanced and well-informed. The good senators have misunderstood how these decisions are taken in Scotland and seem ignorant of the culture. They also seem unaware of Megrahi's physical condition - or at least that seems the case from what the story above said.

At least Scots avoided the cost of keeping Megrahi alive and secure. It is still hard to assess how long he might live.
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Dec 23, 2010
 
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>At least Scots avoided the cost of keeping Megrahi alive and secure.
at what other cost? keeping the rest of the world from being secure? i'm sure that we have not heard the last of his dastardly deeds. perhaps one final act before he dies?
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Dec 23, 2010
 
just dont get it wrote:
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at what other cost? keeping the rest of the world from being secure? i'm sure that we have not heard the last of his dastardly deeds. perhaps one final act before he dies?
What is the cost of letting the instigator of this attack continue to laugh at us without a mention?

9th December. From:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/afr...
Col. Gaddafi was speaking in the Libyan capital Tripoli, to back Megrahi's family who have said they will sue the Scottish authorities for neglecting Megrahi's health in prison.
He was quoted as saying by the state news agency JANA that Megrahi's health had "deteriorated badly".

Is it not true that Megrahi was acting on someoneís orders? I am not sure he is personally motivated by a terrorist philosophy. If he hadnít done it, some other actor for the instigator of this terrorist act would have. The people behind this tragedy are presumably laughing at peopleís obsession with the hired help. That is not the only point of view and yours is equally valid. I am simply saying that both should be carefully considered. It is not Megrahi I really want brought to justice for the Lockerbie atrocity.

May I also mention that there is significantly more doubt in this country as to Megrahiís guilt. I read of one victimís family who attended Megrahiís trial and was only interested in his appeal because they thought it might help to get at the truth. And this from Wiki-
South of Scotland SNP MSP C Grahame said, "There are a number of vested interests who have been deeply opposed to this appeal continuing as they know it would go a considerable way towards exposing the truth behind Lockerbie.... In the next days, weeks and months new information will be placed in the public domain that will make it clear that Mr Megrahi had nothing to do with the bombing of Pan Am 103.Ē Tam Dalyell,... has long believed Megrahi is the victim of a catastrophic miscarriage of justice, and has publicly stated that Megrahi is merely a scapegoat. Dalyell was supported by Nelson Mandela, the Church of Scotland, the Catholic Church, the law faculties of the Scottish universities, the representatives of British relatives and the UN's official observer at the notorious trial in The Hague.

I mean no offence by the way. I am simply considering every point of view. I am explaining the view that these four senators are offering a quite one-sided and ill-informed report. It ignores (or is is completely unaware of) the relationship between the British and Scottish governments at their personal, party political and formal levels.
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Dec 23, 2010
 
Dud Twenties wrote:
<quoted text>it is called PUNISHMENT. we all know he might be powerless now, but he was in jail for what he did, not what he might do in future. This is the concept of punishment. Of course , people like you wouldn't understand, and Ronan probably thinks so as well.
But punishment doesn't work. And what "punishment" would be suitable for the cold blooded murder of 270 innocent people? Surely something far worse than a Scottish prison.

Criminals commit all sorts of crime for all sorts of reason and no punishment will ever deter them. That is not to say that we shouldn't punish offenders. Of course we should and it plays a very important role in deterring crime. What we musn't do is think that punishment is always "the" answer. There are many proofs of that every day, but my favourite is the reprot that bikes were stolen from outside a football stadium in Afghanistan in which "thieves" were having their hand's cut off.

The punishment should NOT fit the crime. That is an old falacy. The intervention has to fit the individual. For instance, what is the point of "punishing" someone who is mentally ill, or a drug addict? If you do not treat the illness, or limit the addiction, he will continue to steal or worse to feed it - whatever the punishment.(He, because crime is still a primarily male problem).

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