Gulf spill surpasses Valdez; plug try going well

Full story: TwinCities.com

An untested procedure to plug the blown-out oil well in the Gulf of Mexico seemed to be working, officials said today, but new estimates showed the spill has already surpassed the Exxon Valdez as the worst in U.S. history.
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Sarah D

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Theseus wrote:
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There's a huge ancient oil seep on the California inland as well. It's called La Brea Tar Pits.
The oil is not seeping from the damaged undersea oil well. It is GUSHING.

Slight difference there. Ecologies are better able to absorb and deal with seepage. A gushing contaminant however, overwhelms the ecology of the area.
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Magic wrote:
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Won't happen because BHO and the Sierra Club saw a need to let her blow as long as possible to maxmize the effect of environmental damage.
Which enabled BHO to now ban offshore drilling, of course BHO recentlly this year authorized MORE offshore drilling. BHO authorized more gulf offshore drilling WITHOUT ANY analysis of ANY methods for preventing the exact type of leak that is now filling the gulf with crude oil.
Of course BHO and liberals have BANNED onshore drilling forceing deep water drilling which of course IS RISKY.
What's really risky is oil companies cutting safety measures in order to save themselves some money. BP has a history of doing just that.
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May 28, 2010
 
The $700,000 in campaign donations BP gave Obama were well worth it. Team Obama gave BP a safety award for the very rig that blew up and caused this mess. Hope n change
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May 28, 2010
 
Sarah D wrote:
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What's really risky is oil companies cutting safety measures in order to save themselves some money. BP has a history of doing just that.
And BHO got $700,000 from BP?

And BHO OKed more gulf drilling?

And BHO was quick to jump on a "Stupidly" cop for arresting one of BHOs buddies.

And BHO gave BP a saftey award with a poor saftey record why?

And BHO fired a fed for poor performance and being to close/cosy with the oil industry, why?

And is BHO going to return the $700,000 to BP, they might need it to clean up the mess BHO created..
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as a keen and savvy observer of the contemporary political scene i am amazed at the frequency and the incredibly high number of times where the most succinct and accurate comment i can offer is the one that prompts instant apoplexy from the the left-wingers:

Obama has failed...
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Sugaree wrote:
as a keen and savvy observer of the contemporary political scene i am amazed at the frequency and the incredibly high number of times where the most succinct and accurate comment i can offer is the one that prompts instant apoplexy from the the left-wingers:
Obama has failed...
There are certianlly a lot of damage control trolls on forums.

How many are on salary?
Sugaree

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maybe you left-wingers can help us. Is there something that Obama HASN'T failed at? When has Obama succeeded? other than getting elected, which is a big thing i grant you. But what has he done that hasn't flopped? You say forcing Obamacare through congress with no Republican votes? that's success? dividing the nation by race in the immigration debate? that's a good thing?

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May 28, 2010
 
Theseus wrote:
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Big,
I'm a former floor hand, derrick man, and bit peddler. I lived on the Gulf Coast. The northwest Gulf Coast has always been kind of nasty. When we went to the beach on week-ends, Mom would always bring 'Varsol' to clean the tar off of the bottoms of our feet.
I'm on your side, Big. Petroleum is the earth's life blood. I know, that the Gulf will clean itself. Any damage done by the spill is just temporary. The earth will heal itself.
My point about La Brea is, oil has always been here. And will be long after we're gone. The Ancients have harvested it for useful purposes since the Ancients were.
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I wasn't disagreeing with you but I see where you're coming from regarding La Brea. It makes sense. I also agree that the oil has been here forever and will be here after we're gone, that was one of my points.

If the Earth and the ocean didn't cleanse itself, the California coast would be dead from the seeps that are spewing the same amount of oil that the Gulf spill is.

The environmentalists don't want to answer this, though. According to them, the Gulf will forever be dead.
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May 28, 2010
 
i think Obama is emptying the treasury and i think he's going to Fort Knox with a wheelbarrow and carrying out gold bars when nobody's looking. i think he's piling up a big stash - like $100 billion - to take with him after he gets voted out. then he'll go to central America or Africa or somewhere and just laugh at us. "I ripped all you dumb Americans off, you dumb bastards HAHAHA" that's what Obama is ACTUALLY up to. Truth is he doesn't want to transform America, that's all just a phony baloney ruse. He wants to rob America is what he wants to do.

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Sarah D wrote:
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The oil is not seeping from the damaged undersea oil well. It is GUSHING.
Slight difference there. Ecologies are better able to absorb and deal with seepage. A gushing contaminant however, overwhelms the ecology of the area.
Sarah-

You're splitting hairs on terminology. The seep off of the Santa Barbara, California coast, that's been active for thousands of years by the way, that Theseus and I were talking about is "seeping" an estimated 5,280 to 6,600 gallons of oil per day.

That's the estimated equivalent of the current Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

Let me write it again. The amount of oil your "gusher" and my "seep" is putting out is the same!

Don't believe me? Follow these two links that lead to two educational/research organizations.

Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
http://www.whoi.edu/oceanu s/viewArticle.do?id=57272

University of California Hydrocarbon Seeps Project
http://seeps.geol.ucsb.edu /

Shouldn't the California Coast near the Santa Barbara seep be dead since the ecology of the area should be overwhelmed?
Sarah D

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Big Laker wrote:
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You're splitting hairs on terminology. The seep off of the Santa Barbara, California coast, that's been active for thousands of years by the way, that Theseus and I were talking about is "seeping" an estimated 5,280 to 6,600 gallons of oil per day.
That's the estimated equivalent of the current Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
Let me write it again. The amount of oil your "gusher" and my "seep" is putting out is the same!
Don't believe me? Follow these two links that lead to two educational/research organizations.
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
http://www.whoi.edu/oceanu s/viewArticle.do?id=57272
University of California Hydrocarbon Seeps Project
http://seeps.geol.ucsb.edu /
Shouldn't the California Coast near the Santa Barbara seep be dead since the ecology of the area should be overwhelmed?
OK let's just say for the sake of argument that what you say is correct (I'm sorry but I don't have the time right now to read all your citations).

Since the seepage has in your own words been going on for thousands of years wouldn't that be enough time for the ecology of the area to have adapted to it?

And I apologize, I see that I wasn't entirely clear when I talked about ecological damage. I should have made it clear that I was also referring to shoreline. There's marshland that is now beginning to be heavily damaged by the oil that is coming ashore. This marshland is not use to being heavily inundated with oil so it can't adapt fast enough and both the wildlife and plant life there is in danger of being killed off.

There are also fisheries in the area that can be heavily damaged by the incoming oil. And fish in the affected ocean area that can be killed off or driven away and that can have a devastating effect on the livelihoods of area fishermen. Again that is because the area simply hasn't had the thousands of years to adapt itself to a heavy oil presence.

This is a man made disaster precisely because of the time frame and the effect it has on HUMANS as well as the local ecology. All of human history is a mere blink of an eye in terms of geological time. If there are any cases where oil spontaneously came bursting out of the ground without any attempts to drill for it by man and that the oil damaged the ecology around it as a result then I would say that in that case it was a natural disaster.

But THIS wasn't a natural disaster. It was man made. And it was man made (in my opinion) by BP corporate decisions. And that's why I think BP should be held accountable and made to pay for everything.
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May 28, 2010
 
Where is green jobs czar Van Jones he can fix it. Oh that's right he resigned
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Well at least he can pronounce nuclear and he speaks in complete sentences.
Only if he has a teleprompter, which he needs even in front of grade school kids!

“Palmam qui meruit ferat”

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Sarah D wrote:
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The oil is not seeping from the damaged undersea oil well. It is GUSHING.
Slight difference there. Ecologies are better able to absorb and deal with seepage. A gushing contaminant however, overwhelms the ecology of the area.
I agree. Yet it's only a matter of degree. The earth will eventually take care of itself. And, sooner than the ecomaniacs will ever admit to.

The second most drastic results, behind the 11 who were killed, is the negative economic impact upon the folks in the region.

The very last thing we should be talking about is the political fallout from this.
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Juan wrote:
See how easy it is to be stupid, Berdterd?
You are doing a great job of proving stupid, "stupid is as stupid does".
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Moriches wrote:
i think Obama is emptying the treasury and i think he's going to Fort Knox with a wheelbarrow and carrying out gold bars when nobody's looking. i think he's piling up a big stash - like $100 billion - to take with him after he gets voted out. then he'll go to central America or Africa or somewhere and just laugh at us. "I ripped all you dumb Americans off, you dumb bastards HAHAHA" that's what Obama is ACTUALLY up to. Truth is he doesn't want to transform America, that's all just a phony baloney ruse. He wants to rob America is what he wants to do.
I belive that myself, because it worked for the Bush family too. Well it`s worked well for all our presidents to be honest about it.
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Juan wrote:
See how easy it is to be stupid, Berdterd?
Yes, I see by your examples. I keep them on file and I use them every time I want to show someone a perfect example of stupidity.

“....careless whisper.”

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Jun 7, 2010
 
Just like America - we love to break records! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!!

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