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Pdamerica

New York, NY

#90 Jan 10, 2010
whats your solution wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you think FDR was a neutral "we the people" President?
Or do you see FDR and Bush as two factions striving for power?
or...
Believe it or not I have much in common with you.

Maybe you are the Ron Paul and I am the Dennis Kucinich which do agree on many many important issues.

I do not disagree with most of your post. NWO!

FDR was a corporate hack just like everyone else BUT he did see the country in dire need and turned his back on Wall Street.

Obama in all truth is continuing 85% of all Bush/Cheney policy which only benefits Wall Street and not main street.

IT IS CALLED SOCIALISM FOR THE WEALTHY!( Corporate Welfare )!

We always had socialism for the wealthy in America and Fascism for everyone else.

THE TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!

1934: The Plot Against America
July 28, 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/5ctbsj
I’m back from the land of heather and thistles, not to mention wee drams and lukewarm ale, but on my way out a friend at the BBC alerted me to this, a not-to-miss program on the BBC this morning, accessible over the next several days by internet. It’s the story of the Plot Against America. I don’t mean the Philip Roth novel, nor even the Sinclair Lewis book, It Can’t Happen Here, but rather the historical events upon which these two works of fiction were based./ http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/07/hbc-90...
Pdamerica

New York, NY

#91 Jan 10, 2010
FOR whats your solution:

I would wager you that after you read these two books "YOU" will never vote for another corporate Bush Republican or corporate Clinton Democrat.

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Perfectly Legal: The Covert Campaign to Rig our Tax System to Benefit the Super Rich- and Cheat Everyone Else
http://tinyurl.com/ydf6r6 / April 18, 2004
One of the country's top investigative reporters reveals how the richest people within the top 1 percent of the country has rigged the tax code and other laws in its favor.
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter David Cay Johnston has been breaking pieces of this story on the front page of The New York Times for nine years, work for which one business school professor calls him ìthe de facto chief tax enforcement officer of the United Statesî. With Perfectly Legal, he puts the whole shocking narrative together in a way that will stir up media attention and make readers angry about the state of our country. And he has sound advice on what to do.
http://www.booknotes.org/Program/...

Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense
(And Stick You with the Bill) January 18, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/2yequa
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Cay Johnston joins us to talk about his new book,“Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (And Stick You with the Bill).” Johnston reveals how government subsidies and new regulations have quietly funneled money from the poor and the middle class to the rich and politically connected.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/18/free_lu...
Pdamerica

New York, NY

#92 Jan 10, 2010
whats your solution wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet, when you analyse them, the regimes of Hitler and Stalin are VERY similar.
- Both embraced large, dictatorial government with central planning, social services, etc.
- Both were collectivist governments, in which the rights of the individual were trampled for the "good of the majority".
- Both systematically murdered in the name of building a better society.
- Both disarmed their citizens
The differences between them were minor, such as:
- In Germany, businesses were allowed to remain in private hands, but the government told them how it would be run - what to make, how much profit, etc. In the USSR, businesses were owned by the government and bureaucrats were told how it would be run.
- In Germany, the murder of undesirables ( for the good of society ) was predominately race based. In the USSR, it was predominately class based.( Both murdered homosexuals, ideological enemies and others unfit for their new order.)
I'll stop here due to space limitations. A good documentary on this subject is "the Soviet Story". Here is a 5 minute clip from the 85 minute documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =P3uFUxMwA1wXX
The collectivist mentality spans from the Inquisition to the USSR so, if you accept that the left and right meet at their extremes, then I would agree with you.
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Again I am in agreement with you. The Soviet Story - Why killing is essential to communism is spot on!

99.9% of liberals are against communism and socialism as practiced in Russia, China, et cetera.

Authentic liberals and authentic conservatives want honest government who work for "We The People" instead of the wealthy few who own Congress.

Most liberals in America know Obama sold out to Wall Street just like Bush/Cheney did.

Back in the 1950's when General Eisenhower was President the wealthiest top 1% of Americans had to pay 91% in taxes.

Propaganda is to democracy what violence is to dictatorship.

Ignorant masses who have to be marginalized for their own good.

In the twentieth century it was the Liberal Progressive Era that benefited most Americans.

The New Deal, The Fair Deal, The GI Bill, and the Great Society.
Pdamerica

New York, NY

#93 Jan 10, 2010
There is some truth in New World Order and shouldn't be dismissed.

The Obama Deception
http://tinyurl.com/dnheuh
http://video.google.com/videoplay...

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
--Thomas Jefferson

"We can have democracy in this country or we can have great concentrated wealth in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both."
--Louis Brandeis Supreme Court Justice 1941

"The two greatest obstacles to democracy in the United States are, first, the widespread delusion among the poor that we have a democracy, and second, the chronic terror among the rich, lest we get it."
--Edward Dowling

Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.
--Benito Mussolini

Iraq/Military-Industrial Complex/The Ruling Class
http://tinyurl.com/232vrc
&mo de=related&search=
Chicago Hope and Change

United States

#95 Jan 11, 2010
Pdamerica wrote:
<quoted text>
Again I am in agreement with you. The Soviet Story - Why killing is essential to communism is spot on!
99.9% of liberals are against communism and socialism as practiced in Russia, China, et cetera.
Authentic liberals and authentic conservatives want honest government who work for "We The People" instead of the wealthy few who own Congress.
Most liberals in America know Obama sold out to Wall Street just like Bush/Cheney did.
Back in the 1950's when General Eisenhower was President the wealthiest top 1% of Americans had to pay 91% in taxes.
Propaganda is to democracy what violence is to dictatorship.
Ignorant masses who have to be marginalized for their own good.
In the twentieth century it was the Liberal Progressive Era that benefited most Americans.
The New Deal, The Fair Deal, The GI Bill, and the Great Society.
Those are not fair comparisons.
Do not let the right wing nuts try and deevolve the debate.
Socialism is the answer!
Obama has the vision and ability to make Socialism and social justice work for everyone.
CHANGE is here!
Be a part of it!
Pdamerica

New York, NY

#96 Jan 11, 2010
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are not fair comparisons.
Do not let the right wing nuts try and deevolve the debate.
Socialism is the answer!
Obama has the vision and ability to make Socialism and social justice work for everyone.
CHANGE is here!
Be a part of it!
First off both parties and both right wing media and mainstream media do not report what is really going on.

OBAMA is continuing 85% of all Bush/Cheney policy that benefits Wall Street and NOT MAIN STREET!

He had the chance to become the next great president like Lincoln and FDR and instead choose to benefit his Wall Street backers.

Chicago Hope and Change stop being an apologist for Obama and his corporate Democrats.

You remind me of the same Republicans supporting everything Bush/Cheney was doing that got us in this mess in the first place.

12 years of Reagan / Bush and Wall Street started Outsourcing
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Union Sundown
Well, my shoes, they come from Singapore,
My flashlight's from Taiwan,
My tablecloth's from Malaysia,
My belt buckle's from the Amazon.
You know, this shirt I wear comes from the Philippines
And the car I drive is a Chevrolet,
It was put together down in Argentina
By a guy makin' thirty cents a day.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Well, this silk dress is from Hong Kong
And the pearls are from Japan.
Well, the dog collar's from India
And the flower pot's from Pakistan.
All the furniture, it says "Made in Brazil"
Where a woman, she slaved for sure
Bringin' home thirty cents a day to a family of twelve,
You know, that's a lot of money to her.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work.
I say, "Why you say that for
When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?"
They don't make nothin' here no more,
You know, capitalism is above the law.
It say, "It don't count 'less it sells."
When it costs too much to build it at home
You just build it cheaper someplace else.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Well, the job that you used to have,
They gave it to somebody down in El Salvador.
The unions are big business, friend,
And they're goin' out like a dinosaur.
They used to grow food in Kansas
Now they want to grow it on the moon and eat it raw.
I can see the day coming when even your home garden
Is gonna be against the law.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Democracy don't rule the world,
You'd better get that in your head.
This world is ruled by violence
But I guess that's better left unsaid.
From Broadway to the Milky Way,
That's a lot of territory indeed
And a man's gonna do what he has to do
When he's got a hungry mouth to feed.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Copyright ©1983
http://www.bobdylan.com/#/songs/union-sundown
JRobert

Waukegan, IL

#97 Jan 11, 2010
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are not fair comparisons.
Do not let the right wing nuts try and deevolve the debate.
Socialism is the answer!
Obama has the vision and ability to make Socialism and social justice work for everyone.
CHANGE is here!
Be a part of it!
And how does Obama intend to achieve his Socialist Utopia (which their own leaders will tell you is only a steppingstone to Communism)?

Obama intends to do that by following the advice of his mentor, neo-Marxist (and fellow Chicagoan) Saul Alinsky:
"The people must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance (our) future.

Sound familiar when you look over the past year?
Chicago Hope and Change

United States

#98 Jan 11, 2010
JRobert wrote:
<quoted text>
And how does Obama intend to achieve his Socialist Utopia (which their own leaders will tell you is only a steppingstone to Communism)?
Obama intends to do that by following the advice of his mentor, neo-Marxist (and fellow Chicagoan) Saul Alinsky:
"The people must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance (our) future.
Sound familiar when you look over the past year?
The right wing deniers/liars always try and twist something benign into something insidious...sad.
There are millions in the world starving, suffering in poverty and dying of disease.
How is your GOP do nothing plan going to address that?
Answer: it doesn’t! The GOP and Faux are deniers and willing to kill millions of people just so they can sit on their criminal wealth.
Well CHANGE is here and we will have International Governance and a fair redistribution among all humankind!!!
Hernan Cortes

Vinaros, Spain

#99 Jan 11, 2010
throw all of them in a mexican jail...........
Hernan Cortes

Vinaros, Spain

#100 Jan 11, 2010
Pdamerica wrote:
There is some truth in New World Order and shouldn't be dismissed.
The Obama Deception
http://tinyurl.com/dnheuh
http://video.google.com/videoplay...
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
--Thomas Jefferson
"We can have democracy in this country or we can have great concentrated wealth in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both."
--Louis Brandeis Supreme Court Justice 1941
"The two greatest obstacles to democracy in the United States are, first, the widespread delusion among the poor that we have a democracy, and second, the chronic terror among the rich, lest we get it."
--Edward Dowling
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.
--Benito Mussolini
Iraq/Military-Industrial Complex/The Ruling Class
http://tinyurl.com/232vrc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Ne3s6jys_G4XX&mode=relate d&search=
the sheep can ´t think the average american dumbed down........
Hernan Cortes

Vinaros, Spain

#101 Jan 11, 2010
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are not fair comparisons.
Do not let the right wing nuts try and deevolve the debate.
Socialism is the answer!
Obama has the vision and ability to make Socialism and social justice work for everyone.
CHANGE is here!
Be a part of it!
scum around my toilet........obama
JRobert

Waukegan, IL

#102 Jan 11, 2010
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text>
The right wing deniers/liars always try and twist something benign into something insidious...sad.
There are millions in the world starving, suffering in poverty and dying of disease.
How is your GOP do nothing plan going to address that?
Answer: it doesn’t! The GOP and Faux are deniers and willing to kill millions of people just so they can sit on their criminal wealth.
Well CHANGE is here and we will have International Governance and a fair redistribution among all humankind!!!
Ha. You didn't like that, did you, you lying Marxist puke?

That was a direct quote from Obama's mentor, Saul Alinsky, and ther's nothing "benign" about it. It's a clear call to destroy America's economic system in order to build the "Socialist Utopia" on the way to Communism.
self fulfilling

High Shoals, GA

#103 Jan 11, 2010
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are not fair comparisons.
Do not let the right wing nuts try and deevolve the debate.
Socialism is the answer!
Obama has the vision and ability to make Socialism and social justice work for everyone.
CHANGE is here!
Be a part of it!
Wishing it so doesn't make it so. History says you are wrong, and not all change is good. If you can't post something of substance to support your claims, your words are just idle talk...propaganda.
self fulfilling

High Shoals, GA

#104 Jan 11, 2010
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text>
The right wing deniers/liars always try and twist something benign into something insidious...sad.
What do you say about Left wing deniers/liars who try and twist the insidious history of communism into something benign?

It appears that is what you are doing. Do you deny the atrocities of communism?
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text> There are millions in the world starving, suffering in poverty and dying of disease.
And in the 20th century, a huge number of them lived under Left wing dictatorships. Even now, millions suffer under the likes of Zimbabwe and Cuba.

If Maarxism is the answer, how do you account for such dismal failures?
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text> How is your GOP do nothing plan going to address that?
Answer: it doesn’t!
Neither have your Democrats and your Obama-siah. How do you account for that?

And since when is America responsible for the world?
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text> The GOP and Faux are deniers and willing to kill millions of people just so they can sit on their criminal wealth.
Where are these millions and when / how did the GOP, etc. kill them?
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text> Well CHANGE is here and we will have International Governance and a fair redistribution among all humankind!!!
Class warfare and wealth redistribution are just Marxist NewSpeak for jealous strife and theft by taking.

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These are all legitimate and fair questions and points. I look forward to your answers.
Pdamerica

New York, NY

#105 Jan 11, 2010
President Eisenhower once noted that a few Texas oil millionaires wanted to abolish social security
http://tinyurl.com/bp7h8 / Nov. 8, 1954
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/ike.asp

Testimony of Ralph Nader
Before the Committee on the Budget U.S. House of Representatives
June 30, 1999
CORPORATE WELFARE
http://tinyurl.com/rdsoq
http://www.nader.org/releases/63099.html

Lou Dobbs: Congress stiffs working Americans
http://tinyurl.com/muc89
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/20/dobbs.june21...

Tom Delay & Bush Republicans Only Benefit The Wealthy
http://gobnf.org/v/td/tomdelaymovie_tease_sm....

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Under The Influence
60 Minutes' Steve Kroft Reports On Drug Lobbyists' Role in Passing Bill That Keeps Drug Prices High
http://tinyurl.com/ytolh8
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/29/60m...

Spending on Lobbying Thrives
Drug and health products industries invest $182 million to influence legislation
http://tinyurl.com/394mnn
http://www.publicintegrity.org/rx/report.aspx...
Pdamerica

New York, NY

#106 Jan 11, 2010
OBAMA VOTED WITH REPUBLICANS TO BENEFIT WALL STREET.

The Best Energy Bill Corporations Could Buy: Summary of Industry Giveaways in the 2005 Energy Bill
http://tinyurl.com/n7ofd
On August 8, 2005, President Bush signed into the law the energy bill; on July 28,the U.S. House of Representatives voted 275 to 156 to approve the energy bill; and on July 29, the U.S. Senate voted 74 to 26 to approve the energy bill.
Since 2001, energy corporations have showered federal politicians with $115 million in campaign contributions—with three-quarters of that amount going to Republicans. This cash helped secure energy companies and their lobbyists exclusive, private access to lawmakers, starting with Vice-President Dick Cheney’s Energy Task Force, whose report provided the foundation of the energy bill passed by Congress and signed by President Bush on August 8.
http://www.citizen.org/cmep/energy_enviro_nuc...

Bush’s 2005 Inauguration Celebration:
Brought to You by Corporate America
http://tinyurl.com/yp779w
An analysis of Bush’s Presidential Inaugural Committee records reveals that $17.1 million, or 96
percent, of the $17.8 million raised so far came from corporations or their senior executives,
including two corporations that effectively skirted the $250,000 cap on contributions by giving
multiple checks through subsidiaries. The analysis also shows that these same special interests
are the ones that played a leading role in funding Bush’s campaigns—nearly half of the
contributors to the inaugural belong to, or employ, an elite class of Bush fundraisers known as
“Rangers,”“Pioneers” and “Super Rangers.
http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/documents/In...

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Pdamerica

New York, NY

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