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NetJets will buy $1 billion worth of new planes | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 43 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Oct 18, 2010, titled NetJets will buy $1 billion worth of new planes | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

A NetJets worker unloads a plane at Port Columbus. NetJets will announce a $1 billion purchase of up to 125 new small-cabin jets from Brazilian manufacturer Embraer this afternoon at the National Business Aviation Association conference in Atlanta.

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Why not BUY American

Columbus, OH

#1 Oct 18, 2010
Can we not find a way to support the original vendors? Why do we have to assist Brazil's economy by ordering Embraer jets?

Great news that Warren Buffet must see a trun in the economy, bad news he's going elsewhere to build his fleet.
JustWondering

United States

#2 Oct 18, 2010
Brazil? Why didn't an American company get the $1B contract to build airplanes? I wonder if the high union labor rates and low quality have anything to do with the decision.
netjetter

Oklahoma City, OK

#3 Oct 18, 2010
[quote]Can we not find a way to support the original vendors? Why do we have to assist Brazil's economy by ordering Embraer jets?

Great news that Warren Buffet must see a trun in the economy, bad news he's going elsewhere to build his fleet.[/quote]

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Brazil? Why didn't an American company get the $1B contract to build airplanes? I wonder if the high union labor rates and low quality have anything to do with the decision.[/quote]

It all has to do with quality, maintainability, reliability, and value. The US manufacturers have issues with quality and value when looking at the type of flying NetJets does. Congrats to Embraer!
Tim T

Delaware, OH

#4 Oct 18, 2010
Outrageous!
Honest truth

Mount Vernon, OH

#5 Oct 18, 2010
Seems as though American manufacturing lost out again. I like how one guy already tries to make this political by blaming unions. That assumes that Embraer does not manufacture in a union environment. Does this company manufacture in Brazil only to cut cost but the aircraft are designed elsewhere? Are they built and designed in Brazil because the U.S. engineers can not compete on cost and reliability? Americans as a whole need to wake up and take a look around. We are losing our competitiveness on the international market. I suggest reading the post American World by Fareerd Zakaria. Interesting read from the perspective of a man educated in India and America.
Reverend Ted LGBT

Amherst, OH

#6 Oct 18, 2010
Hmmm. Two Hundred jets from Brazil. Zero from the USA.

All of our politicians have done so much for us---including the Rev. Methodist Ted LGBT.
yeahright

Lebanon, OH

#7 Oct 18, 2010
like everything in an embraer is 100% brazilian, no american technology. please ...
Phu Bai Joe

AOL

#8 Oct 18, 2010
Reverend Ted LGBT wrote:
Hmmm. Two Hundred jets from Brazil. Zero from the USA.
All of our politicians have done so much for us---including the Rev. Methodist Ted LGBT.
Come on! I imagine that you'll blame the toxic sludge release in Hungary on the Governor. Get real!

As for quality, the American worker, whether union or non, can produce highly sophisticated great products or junk. What goes out the door is what management has approved.

Remember:"What management permits, management condones."
lostinspace

Hilliard, OH

#9 Oct 18, 2010
didnt they back out of paying for that bicycle race ? and now they have enough credit / money for a billion dollars worth of planes ?
Good Grief

AOL

#10 Oct 18, 2010
Reverend Ted LGBT wrote:
Hmmm. Two Hundred jets from Brazil. Zero from the USA.
All of our politicians have done so much for us---including the Rev. Methodist Ted LGBT.
"NetJets also has about 60 large- and mid-cabin jets valued at $2.95 billion currently on order from Cessna, Falcon and Gulfstream".

Why don't you read the entire article Jethro.
mike

Westerville, OH

#12 Oct 18, 2010
couldnt they buy american made planes : (
Tired

Columbus, OH

#13 Oct 18, 2010
No need to bash NetJets, they're above reproach. (Choke, cough, gag)
Paying Attention

Hillsboro, OH

#14 Oct 18, 2010
No new jobs here folks, nothing to see, move along...
Fed Up

Columbus, OH

#15 Oct 18, 2010
Let's turn the celebs on them. They carry more weight when it comes to getting people behind some worthless crap. They could threaten to quit using them, or better yet wait until one of these imports go down with some CEO on it who's decided to outsource his company for the all mighty buck. Talk about justice!
Paying Attention

Hillsboro, OH

#16 Oct 18, 2010
Fed Up wrote:
Let's turn the celebs on them. They carry more weight when it comes to getting people behind some worthless crap. They could threaten to quit using them, or better yet wait until one of these imports go down with some CEO on it who's decided to outsource his company for the all mighty buck. Talk about justice!
Uh Huh. Let's see - you're a "celeb." And you need to be somewhere, at a certain time, and you really don't feel like having to deal with all of the crap us mere peasants have to deal with to fly on an airliner. BUT, you don't have the cash to buy an airplane.

However, you do have the cash to pony up with a bunch of other "celebs" to, basically, cost-share rent a high-priced jet to get you where you want to be, when you want to be there, without the hassles.

This is the concept of NetJets.

Now why in hell would you care where the plane was built? The crew is American, and competent, as least as competent as any aviation crew is these days.
Paying Attention

Hillsboro, OH

#17 Oct 18, 2010
Face is, folks, NetJets is a billion dollar industry because people with money, as usual, are going to figure out a way to get around all of the government's bullshiit, like they always do.

No TSA searches, no ATC delays, no ramp delays, no anything but getting on a plane and getting where you want to be. And the truth is, it really isn't all that expensive, relatively speaking. It's all about cost sharing, just ratcheted up a few notches above what the average person can afford, and therefore beyond the government crap the average person has to endure.

And very little of the profit goes back into the pocket of an average person, in the form of jobs, etc.

Since: Mar 10

Columbus, OH

#19 Oct 18, 2010
<NetJets also has about 60 large- and mid-cabin jets valued at $2.95 billion currently on order from Cessna, Falcon and Gulfstream.>

Cessna is based in Wichita, Kansas, Falcon is based in Paris, France and Gulfstream is headquartered in Savannah, Georgia. This is a world market and try as you might, you can't but everything in the U.S.

The Brazilians at Embraer make nice airplanes and the U.S. in the major market, as does Canadair.

Since: Jan 10

Germantown, OH

#20 Oct 18, 2010
Why not BUY American wrote:
Can we not find a way to support the original vendors? Why do we have to assist Brazil's economy by ordering Embraer jets?
Great news that Warren Buffet must see a trun in the economy, bad news he's going elsewhere to build his fleet.
Simple Business Mathematics:
125 aircraft for 1 Billion (8 million each)
60 aircraft for 2.95 Billion (49 million each)

Twice the number of aircraft for less than half the price of Cessna, Falcon and Gulfstream. It's just smart business move and NetJet isn't in business to give you a job, their in business to make a profit for their shareholders.
dave chappelle

Since: Oct 10

Grove City, OH

#21 Oct 18, 2010
JustWondering wrote:
Brazil? Why didn't an American company get the $1B contract to build airplanes? I wonder if the high union labor rates and low quality have anything to do with the decision.
Embraer builds great airplanes at a price that the market supports.
It's called capitalism and freedom of choice, people.
dave chappelle

Since: Oct 10

Grove City, OH

#22 Oct 18, 2010
Honest truth wrote:
Seems as though American manufacturing lost out again. I like how one guy already tries to make this political by blaming unions. That assumes that Embraer does not manufacture in a union environment. Does this company manufacture in Brazil only to cut cost but the aircraft are designed elsewhere? Are they built and designed in Brazil because the U.S. engineers can not compete on cost and reliability? Americans as a whole need to wake up and take a look around. We are losing our competitiveness on the international market. I suggest reading the post American World by Fareerd Zakaria. Interesting read from the perspective of a man educated in India and America.
"I suggest reading the post American World by Fareerd Zakaria. Interesting read from the perspective of a man educated in India and America."

Obama was photographed holding that book. Not a very flattering portrayal of the "president."

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