AVX pollution not in community's inte...

AVX pollution not in community's interest

There are 27 comments on the Myrtle Beach Online story from Sep 22, 2008, titled AVX pollution not in community's interest. In it, Myrtle Beach Online reports that:

Elizabeth Skidmore's Sept. 9 letter, "AVX Corp. doesn't deserve media attacks," reflects a lack of knowledge and a lack of concern for the health of residents and tourists in Myrtle Beach, and a lack of concern ...

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what

Louisburg, NC

#1 Sep 22, 2008
What ignorance you show Ron.
There are so many things wrong with your statements, I'm baffled as to where to even start. I will attempt to wade through the ignorance in your note, and try to point out the critical issues. Wow....where to even start...
It's going to take to long, and not worth it. I'm amazed that the level in which you are misinformed or perhaps its the way you are proclaiming ignorance in writing such a letter.
Robin Hood

Alpharetta, GA

#2 Sep 23, 2008
AVX's 17th Ave S is their world headquarters. AVX's Big-Wigs work there. They are in the building all day long every day.

They most certainly wouldn't do anything that would endanger their own health and well-being.

If AVX is as dangerous as the author of the news article claims, the Big-Wigs would all be dead by now.
Sun News Reporting

Glenn Dale, MD

#4 Sep 23, 2008
Ron, how can you be that misinformed have you been reading David Wren's Sun News Articles. I have friends at AVX, Testing is in place, The airbase borders AVX, and DHEC lives on site. Try looikng up the facts before picking up your pen.
Good Grief How Foolish

AOL

#5 Sep 23, 2008
I do not believe you could be more misinformed if you tried.
Absolutely ridiculous and too long and too much misinformation to even attempt a short informed reply
get educated
live near avx

Laurinburg, NC

#6 Sep 23, 2008
OK, so most of the people who responded have nothing better to say than how misinformed and ignorant the writer is, but not one person has offered any evidence of that. Sorry, but to say there is "too much information to attempt a short reply" is even more ignorant than just keeping your mouth shut. Probably the same person writing most of these posts. Maybe even Mrs. Skidmore, who doesn't even live in Myrtle Beach much less near the pollution here on 17th Ave. South.
As for "Robin Hood," actually most of the big-wigs spend all their time checking out the low-wage plants in China, Mexico and the Czech Republic. They are almost never in Myrtle Beach, so what do they care what the people here breath?
I for one am glad The Sun News has exposed this environmental tragedy.
me too

Florence, SC

#7 Sep 23, 2008
You are right. Kudos to the Sun News for not letting this rest!

ignore robin hood. he's just getting his rox off
elizabeth skidmore

AOL

#8 Sep 23, 2008
Frankly I do live near AVX, and frankly my work is all about taking care of people as i work in the healthcare industry. I care about people. But also come from an area that threw industry out of their area over the hysteric fear of contaminants. That fear cost an area all its industry, all its jobs and its future. No more industry, no more jobs and no future there or anywhere that does not realize the importance of CO-Existing with Industry.
The writer of todays article did not research the real issues. That is an area that should able to coexist with industry, the fact that AVX bought their property from the US Air Force----which by the way the Market Commons now is on that land as well, this fact was soft peddled in the latest Sun News Article.
I live near the plant, work for and care for people all day long and believe that in order to be a successful america we need to learn to Co-Exist with industry
Sincerely
elizabeth skidmore.
elizabeth skidmore

AOL

#9 Sep 23, 2008
One small typo I just noted,what I wrote should have read That this is an area that should be able to Co-exist with industry just like Jackonsville,Daytona, Tampa,and Charleston. These are areas that are successful Beach Reacreational communities that Co-Exist with Industry and something we need to strive for. Then remember that AVX bought that property from the US Air Force and the fact that TCE was used extensively by many industries, military industries and yes even individuals through the 1980's and beyond legally.
Thanks again
E Skidmore
elizabeth skidmore

AOL

#10 Sep 23, 2008
me too wrote:
You are right. Kudos to the Sun News for not letting this rest!
ignore robin hood. he's just getting his rox off


You need to research things more before replying--AVX has been as always within our laws and complied with all laws. Check out the DHEC site and they too will fill you in on all they have done and continue to do in this regard.

Industry is not our enemy----we need to learn to work and co-exist with industry so we can keep jobs here in America and here for our youth
not an avx apologist

Laurinburg, NC

#11 Sep 23, 2008
I hope you AVX apologists are being paid well to post these messages to The Sun News discussion boards. That is, more than the $10 gift cards to Wal-mart that some employees got for their Christmas bonuses last year (how many hundreds of thousands did John Gilbertson get?)
I can't imagine how anyone could defend the pollution, secrecy and lying that this company has done for so many decades right here in the middle of a residential and tourist area. I guess the apologists are getting a nice bonus -- or maybe they are just being offered a chance to keep their job since most AVX jobs are going to China or Mexico anyway.
To Mrs. Skidmore (interesting how quickly she responded after someone suggested she was behind all these messages)-- the industries in Jacksonville, Daytona, Tampa and Charleston are not located less than half a mile from the oceanfont and most are not located right in the middle of neighborhoods. They are in industrial areas far from the places where tourists play and residents need to live. The ones in Charleston, for example, are actually in North Charleston. I don't remember seeing any factories at The Battery the last time I was there.
Sure, it's easy to "coexist" with industry if its 20 or 30 miles away. I used to live in St. Augustine, so I know what I'm talking about.
Plus, the TCE the Air Force used has nothing to do with the contamination at and north of AVX. Two separate issues, which you would know if you researched the facts. The Air Force did not even use TCE on that side of the runway. And groundwater does not flow north of the Air Force base.
It seems that instead of criticizing someone who disagrees with you, you would take the time to do your own research and realize people who live near this industry don't want to put up with the pollution. Besides, I looked up your address and it said you live in Longs, which is nowhere near AVX.
I bet you'd feel different if you owned a townhome three blocks from AVX that you can't sell no one wants to live close to that place.
not an avx apologist

Laurinburg, NC

#12 Sep 23, 2008
wow, so many responses from Ms. Skidmore ... and so quickly. Methinks she doth protest too much.
Makes you wonder exactly why someone who lives nowhere near AVX is reacting so strongly to criticism of that industy. Maybe a relative works there?
Fox guarding the hens

Laurinburg, NC

#13 Sep 23, 2008
elizabeth skidmore wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to research things more before replying--AVX has been as always within our laws and complied with all laws.
WRONG -- AVX was cited for numerous violations of the state's Pollution Control Act and the federal Clean Water Act for secretly dumping TCE into goundwater for decades befoe informing DHEC ... and they only informed DHEC after their secret cleanup efforts didn't work.
I believe I read there were a couple of other violations they were fined for in the 1990s. Something about dumping high levels of TCE into Withers Swash.
Besides, who knows what all is going on there? They monitor themselves and they "self-report" any violations that would lead to a fine. Not a very good way to police industrial pollution but, hey, that's South Carolina.
Tired Texan

Columbia, SC

#14 Sep 24, 2008
The only lying carried on here is by this 'newspaper.' You folks need to take a deep breath and learn how to ask the right questions. All the answers are in public files, where of course the MBO declined to look even when offered by the state.
All I see are a bunch of excitable hypochondriacs being led around by the nose. Pitiful, just pitiful.
Tired of Tired Texan

Laurinburg, NC

#15 Sep 24, 2008
Tired Texan wrote:
The only lying carried on here is by this 'newspaper.' You folks need to take a deep breath and learn how to ask the right questions. All the answers are in public files, where of course the MBO declined to look even when offered by the state.
All I see are a bunch of excitable hypochondriacs being led around by the nose. Pitiful, just pitiful.
What a girly boy.
me too

Florence, SC

#17 Sep 24, 2008
elizabeth skidmore wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to research things more before replying--AVX has been as always within our laws and complied with all laws. Check out the DHEC site and they too will fill you in on all they have done and continue to do in this regard.
Industry is not our enemy----we need to learn to work and co-exist with industry so we can keep jobs here in America and here for our youth
Legal does not equal moral. AVX knew about this contamination long before they reported it to DHEC. They obviously knew they had done something unacceptable because they spent years trying to repair the damages before admitting the problems to DHEC. No, I haven't done extensive research, so blame your local newspaper if you don't like them apples.

Furthermore, I don't care what you think. I used to work for the company, and one year they gave us a turkey for our "Christmas bonus." I suppose they couldn't afford to give its already underpaid American employees anymore because of all the money they spend paying those employees in Chihuahua, Mexico.

I don't care how they do it in Charleston or any of those other cities; I don't live there.

20 yr local and then some

Sumter, SC

#18 Sep 24, 2008
well who has been here longer the air base/Avx and did those home owners buy cheap land and property because it was near a defunct air base and a manufacturer-----do not feel sorry for them at all ---
not to mention that the supposed contaminants really do n ot cause the harm that uneducated people may believe they will. like Ms Skidmore states it is time to co exist with industry . If we do not we are doomed to fail well unless you all want to move to China for work
Trying to sell

Laurinburg, NC

#19 Sep 24, 2008
Talk about uneducated -- How about you take a look at the real estate sales in our area and tell us how little harm the contaminants cause. Or, better yet, since you think there are no health issues, why don't you buy my townhome? I'll give you a good deal on it.
You, like Evelyn Skidmore, must not live anywhere near AVX. And besides, all of AVX's jobs are going to go to China -- cheap labor, lax environmental regulations -- regardless of anything anyone does here. It's just a matter of time.
Might as well hold their feet to the fire while they are here rather than let them pollute the area even more.
what

Florence, SC

#20 Sep 24, 2008
We might just have to do that. The only reason AVX's MB office still exists is because it's the home office. They have moved many jobs abroad to places like Chihuahua in order to spend less money on overhead. Surely, you realize that it is not really in the best financial any corporation like this to employ only Americans. We are too expensive, and why should they pay us $20 an hour when they can pay foreigners $20 a day and get the same product.

Even if an obviously-educated person believes that AVX is ok for "contamination" of the environment around its property because the people who live nearby are poor, that doesn't make it the right way to be. If these people owned this land, as far as I'm concerned, AVX may as well have been trespassing. They flubbed. People most likely wouldn't be nearly as ill about this if they would have admitted long ago they shouldn't have contaminted other people's property, and then made a genuine public effort to fix the damage.

If it were your home, you would probably be mad, too. After all, if you paid for it, shouldn't you be allowed to determine whose waste oozes over into your living space?
Chillaxative

Laurinburg, NC

#21 Sep 24, 2008
I live about a block from AVX and I have been pumping and bottling the groundwater at my home ever since these stories broke about a year ago. In fact, I have several cases sitting in my garage right now.
So here's my deal for any of you guys or gals who think AVX is the greatest thing since tantalum powder -- 50 bucks to anyone who downs a few jugs of that "sparkling spring water" (without barfing).
Any takers? Just meet me at noon at Withers Park.
Tired Texan

Columbia, SC

#22 Sep 25, 2008
Chillaxative wrote:
I live about a block from AVX and I have been pumping and bottling the groundwater at my home ever since these stories broke about a year ago. In fact, I have several cases sitting in my garage right now.
So here's my deal for any of you guys or gals who think AVX is the greatest thing since tantalum powder -- 50 bucks to anyone who downs a few jugs of that "sparkling spring water" (without barfing).
Any takers? Just meet me at noon at Withers Park.
Well. If YOU are well enough to sit at a computer and brag, you've just proven Ms. Skidmore's point, now, haven't you?

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