Historians Admit To Inventing Ancient...

Historians Admit To Inventing Ancient Greeks

There are 40 comments on the www.theonion.com story from Oct 11, 2010, titled Historians Admit To Inventing Ancient Greeks. In it, www.theonion.com reports that:

A group of leading historians held a press conference Monday at the National Geographic Society to announce they had "entirely fabricated" ancient Greece, a culture long thought to be the intellectual basis of Western civilization. The group acknowledged that the idea of a sophisticated, flourishing society existing in Greece more than two millennia ago was a complete fiction created by a team of some two dozen historians, anthropologists, and classicists who worked nonstop between 1971 and 1974 to forge "Greek" documents and artifacts. "Honestly, we never meant for things to go this far," said Professor Gene Haddlebury, who has offered to resign his position as chair of Hellenic Studies at Georgetown University. "We were young and trying to advance our careers, so we just started making things up: Homer, Aristotle, Socrates, Hippocrates, the lever and fulcrum, rhetoric, ethics, all the different kinds of columns—everything."

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PAOKARA

Heraklion, Greece

#22 Oct 15, 2010
Poseidon wrote:
i like to believe the joke, if its a joke
it is a joke bro enjoy
Vlad

Macedonia

#23 Oct 15, 2010
PAOKARA wrote:
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it is a joke bro enjoy
There's some truth behind every joke.

“Makedonija znaci Grcija”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#24 Oct 15, 2010
Vlad wrote:
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There's some truth behind every joke.
The only truth in you malakes is that you are all jokes when you say you are macedonians.
United Macedonians

Glauchau, Germany

#25 Oct 16, 2010
Vlad wrote:
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There's some truth behind every joke.
Guess wat the truth is ... How ridiculous can you get? How stupid can you be? What happens when you get miseducated in FYROM? What happens when a bunch of criminals run off to Australia and Canada lying about themselves and inventing fairy tales to convince their children that the bad Greeks have brainwashed the entire world?
Truth hurts

Athens, Greece

#26 Oct 17, 2010
Vlad wrote:
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There's some truth behind every joke.
Yes indeed. But "some" truth is not THE truth
:)
Dude

Sydney, Australia

#27 Oct 18, 2010
One has 4 years to write a PHD Thesis, that is a lot of time to come up with bull...

Then again, when your job and future hangs on government funding, wouldnt you do whatever you can to keep your job?
Macedonia is Hellenic wrote:
According to Haddlebury, the idea of inventing a wholly fraudulent ancient culture came about when he and other scholars realized they had no idea what had actually happened in Europe during the 800-year period before the Christian era.
Frustrated by the gap in the record, and finding archaeologists to be "not much help at all," they took the problem to colleagues who were then scrambling to find a way to explain where things such as astronomy, cartography, and democracy had come from.
Within hours the greatest and most influential civilization of all time was born.
"One night someone made a joke about just taking all these ideas, lumping them together, and saying the Greeks had done it all 2,000 years ago," Haddlebury said. "One thing led to another, and before you know it, we're coming up with everything from the golden ratio to the Iliad."
"That was a bitch to write, by the way," he continued, referring to the epic poem believed to have laid the foundation for the Western literary tradition. "But it seemed to catch on."
http://www.theonion.com/articles/historians-a...
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Iliad was a such bitch to write! So, the Skops have not been falifying history. Tentov and Boshevski are not inventing things. The Greeks have never existed ...
Dude

Sydney, Australia

#28 Oct 18, 2010
"We picked Greece because we figured nobody would ever go there to check it out," Nguyen-Whiteman said. "Have you ever seen the place? It's a dump. It's like an abandoned gravel pit infested with cats."

Nice quote
Come on

Abington, MA

#29 Oct 18, 2010
The Ovchar how many greek have slammed ur momma and wife out in there Canada u malaka? u sicken me i would love to come to canada and beat ur face in but ur broke ass has a free health system so i wont give u the pleasure

Since: Mar 08

I like to screw pichkas!!!

#30 Oct 18, 2010
Dude wrote:
One has 4 years to write a PHD Thesis, that is a lot of time to come up with bull...
Then again, when your job and future hangs on government funding, wouldnt you do whatever you can to keep your job?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah! The ENTIRE world has conspired against you clowns in collusion with the big bad Greeks.

It's one grand conspiracy perpetrated by the big bad Greeks since time immemorial!

The big bad Greeks bribed the Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Hebrews, Indians, and all the other ancient peoples to refer to the Macedonians as Greeks.

Not only that, but the big bad Greeks have erected entire cities, monuments, and have planted all sorts of artifacts from Sicily to India, and from Russia to Egypt displaying the Greekness of the Macedonians while at the same time erasing any remnant of the ancient Macedonian "lengvich", which wasn't Greek at all but "Proto-Slavic".

And if that wasn't enough, the big bad Greeks, after millenia of covering their tracks, decided to pay off every government on the face of the earth where ancient Macedonian artifacts were discovered, payed off every archaeologist that excavated Macedonian digs, payed off every antiquities dealer, every curator of every museum in every country on every continent in the world, payed off every university, and have just recently "bribed" 359 of the world's TOP scholars.

We're also Reptilians from Alpha Centauri and we run the world from our underground lair at Delphi, the naval of the universe!

Clowns!
Dude

Sydney, Australia

#31 Oct 18, 2010
Not the entire world, just a bunch of corrupt pollies who with every day are less and less relevant to this world.

This pathetic name dispute imposed by greece will be just afootnote in the stupidity of western civilisation and a good example why it will ultimately fail.

as for your sarcasm, i will find coppies of videos where greeks do just that, and I am talking western documentaries where they filming something else stumble upon greeks constructing monuments in Pakistan in the late 90's for example.

As for ancient so called artifacts, horses for courses really, judging by how much history is falsified, none hold much weater anymore.

So suck me, Im Macedonian and you hate my name, and in the end that says more than anything else!
GEOROX wrote:
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Yeah, yeah, yeah! The ENTIRE world has conspired against you clowns in collusion with the big bad Greeks.
It's one grand conspiracy perpetrated by the big bad Greeks since time immemorial!
The big bad Greeks bribed the Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Hebrews, Indians, and all the other ancient peoples to refer to the Macedonians as Greeks.
Not only that, but the big bad Greeks have erected entire cities, monuments, and have planted all sorts of artifacts from Sicily to India, and from Russia to Egypt displaying the Greekness of the Macedonians while at the same time erasing any remnant of the ancient Macedonian "lengvich", which wasn't Greek at all but "Proto-Slavic".
And if that wasn't enough, the big bad Greeks, after millenia of covering their tracks, decided to pay off every government on the face of the earth where ancient Macedonian artifacts were discovered, payed off every archaeologist that excavated Macedonian digs, payed off every antiquities dealer, every curator of every museum in every country on every continent in the world, payed off every university, and have just recently "bribed" 359 of the world's TOP scholars.
We're also Reptilians from Alpha Centauri and we run the world from our underground lair at Delphi, the naval of the universe!
Clowns!

“NAME NOT NEGOTIABLE!!!!”

Since: May 10

MACEDONIA THEREFORE ELLAS!!

#32 Oct 18, 2010
They have no clue. The PM paid them for nothing.
Beautiful Macedonia wrote:
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Will the Slavoskopians understand the satire?
PATRIOTIS

Ottawa, Canada

#33 Oct 20, 2010
The truth is, it really doesn't matter what lies and propaganda you spread around FYROM. Your joke of a nation was born yesterday - they don't even know what to call it yet. What are 2.5 million slavobulgarians going to do against 15 million Greeks? Your whole country is half the size of Athens. The world doesn't even know you exist.

Please, take all our flags, symbols, and history if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy about your identity. To be honest, its flattering that you envy us so much. Just realize - all you'll ever be is "Greece's little neighbour to the north". You will always be the ones begging us for admission into the EU and NATO, and will always be turned down. And you will always be the ones envious of our heroes, our history, and our achievements.

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I like to screw pichkas!!!

#34 Oct 20, 2010
Dude wrote:
Not the entire world, just a bunch of corrupt pollies who with every day are less and less relevant to this world.
This pathetic name dispute imposed by greece will be just afootnote in the stupidity of western civilisation and a good example why it will ultimately fail.
as for your sarcasm, i will find coppies of videos where greeks do just that, and I am talking western documentaries where they filming something else stumble upon greeks constructing monuments in Pakistan in the late 90's for example.
As for ancient so called artifacts, horses for courses really, judging by how much history is falsified, none hold much weater anymore.
So suck me, Im Macedonian and you hate my name, and in the end that says more than anything else!
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I have international academia on my side peasant!
What do you have? A secretary named Risto Stefov???

Truth is on my side Slavko!

“Gord Makedonec”

Since: Apr 10

Solun Makedonija

#35 Oct 20, 2010

“Makedonija znaci Grcija”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#36 Oct 24, 2010
FALANGA wrote:
First you are the one to take some lessons in th real macedonian language. You can start here.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pella_curse_tabl...
And then you can go outside your parliament and continue your education in macedonian.
Malaka
United Macedonians

Neumark, Germany

#37 Oct 24, 2010
Dude wrote:
Im Macedonian and you hate my name, and in the end that says more than anything else!
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You know you are not Macedonian and you pretend to be, you say as much. We don't hate you, you hate us because during your national history you had nothing to read but state propaganda. We feel sorry for you though and of course we are not taking seriously your claims to be "Macedonians".

Nobody else does. The 389 academics that have signed the petition to Barack Obama and the writers of this article think you are silly.
United Macedonians

Neumark, Germany

#38 Oct 24, 2010
Dude wrote:
This pathetic name dispute imposed by greece will be just afootnote in the stupidity of western civilisation and a good example why it will ultimately fail.<quoted text>
The name dispute was imposed by you, since it was the Yugoslav government, Tito etc who had the idea, and you signed an international Agreement to find a mutual solution with Greece. We are still waiting.

The historians have expressed their view on this issue already, no need to wait for the future to find out who is being silly.

"Dear President Obama,

We, the undersigned scholars of Graeco-Roman antiquity, respectfully request that you intervene to clean up some of the historical debris left in southeast Europe by the previous U.S. administration.

On November 4, 2004, two days after the re-election of President George W. Bush, his administration unilaterally recognized the “Republic of Macedonia.” This action not only abrogated geographic and historic fact, but it also has unleashed a dangerous epidemic of historical revisionism, of which the most obvious symptom is the misappropriation by the government in Skopje of the most famous of Macedonians, Alexander the Great.

We believe that this SILLINESS HAS GONE TOO FAR, and that the U.S.A. has no business in supporting the subversion of history. "

The documentation for these facts can be found at: http://macedonia-evidence.org/documentation.h...

http://macedonia-evidence.org/

“NAME NOT NEGOTIABLE!!!!”

Since: May 10

MACEDONIA THEREFORE ELLAS!!

#39 Oct 24, 2010
Macedonia

the Identity of Macedonians

Known as Paionia in antiquity, Vardarska Banovina from 1929 through 1944, and the Socialist Republic of Macedonia in Josip Broz Tito's time, this small Yugoslav province seceded from Yugoslavia to become the "Republic of Macedonia." Accepted by the United Nations as the "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" (FYROM), it revealed its irredentist aspirations and a furious wave of hatred against Greece (which owns 75 percent of King Philip's Macedonia). Claiming that its Slavic inhabitants are "Macedonians, " FYROM's ultranationalist administration is determined to continue stirring political, demographic, and territorial problems, paying Greece back for its financial generosity with a constant barrage of anti-Hellenic propaganda, provocations in the media and on the Internet, and distortions of history. It also struggles to establish kinship between ancient Macedonians and the FYROM Slavs while discrediting Macedonian Hellenism, and to apprehend the Macedonian patrimony all the way back to the fifth century BC. If it desires to succeed in its ongoing misguided journey to integration with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the European Union, FYROM must abandon the mentality of the communist past, which had produced hostile irredentist dogma
United Macedonians

Chemnitz, Germany

#40 Oct 24, 2010
Dude wrote:
"We picked Greece because we figured nobody would ever go there to check it out," Nguyen-Whiteman said. "Have you ever seen the place? It's a dump. It's like an abandoned gravel pit infested with cats."
Nice quote
Dude doesn't get it ...
VALD

Skopje, Macedonia

#43 Jun 13, 2012
the falsification of Invented "Greek" , who never existed is coming on surface.. the today citizens of Ellada don't have anything common with old Hellenic people because they are descendants of Egyptians and other middle east people... genetic science can prove that ! Cheers!

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