US Airways says merger with American Airlines would save $1.2 billion

There are 13 comments on the Star-Telegram.com story from Apr 25, 2012, titled US Airways says merger with American Airlines would save $1.2 billion. In it, Star-Telegram.com reports that:

US Airways' top executives said Wednesday that they are focused on showing AMR Corp.'s creditors that a merger would result in $1.2 billion in savings even as AMR's management pushes ahead with its own plan to emerge from bankruptcy on its own.

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Dave

Medford, WI

#1 Apr 26, 2012
Bankruptcy not such a great idea now is it American execs? Thought they could dump the pensions, crap on the people that built the airline for years, and walk away with bonuses for the "savings". Hopefully US Air will terminate all American execs on day one! HAHAHAHA!
Consumers Save

United States

#2 Apr 26, 2012
Also what was NOT said was savings would be passed on to consumers with

CHEAPER FARES
NO BAG SURCHARGE FEES
MORE NONSTOP SERVICE.

Guess this is more of the same just with a diffrent name!

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#3 Apr 26, 2012
Dave wrote:
Bankruptcy not such a great idea now is it American execs? Thought they could dump the pensions, crap on the people that built the airline for years, and walk away with bonuses for the "savings". Hopefully US Air will terminate all American execs on day one! HAHAHAHA!
AMR Board and Execs will land on thier feet thanks to a comfy Golden Parachute, but at least they will not be at AMR anymore.
Musician

Irving, TX

#4 Apr 27, 2012
What makes anyone think a bunch of people who have been "devoted" to hating the company they work for all their professional lives are going to act any differently with a new company ... at least for very long.
Toad

UK

#5 Apr 27, 2012
Musician wrote:
What makes anyone think a bunch of people who have been "devoted" to hating the company they work for all their professional lives are going to act any differently with a new company ... at least for very long.
Harsh. NWA was known for yrs as having the worst possible relationship 'tween Mgmt and front line. Merged w/ DAL and the morale at combined carrier is very very good, even great. Profits are up, wages are up, productivity is up........hitting on all cylinders quit nicely. Sometimes an investment in the future is all it takes to move everyone and everything. In these times of Globalization, questioning the motives of anyone is pertinent. Do you get along side w/ comrades and have the goal of being the winning team..........or not. Given the chance, 99% of us all will fight to become the new winning team. Comments like yours are destructive rather than constructive.

Since: Apr 08

Tulsa, OK

#6 Apr 27, 2012
Musician wrote:
What makes anyone think a bunch of people who have been "devoted" to hating the company they work for all their professional lives are going to act any differently with a new company ... at least for very long.
Musician..........WELCOME BACK to the commentary, I missed you!

You're absolutely correct. Did you read my post?

'So what flavor Kool Aid was W.Douglas Parker serving at the union discussions? Whatever is was it convinced the ignorant and stupid union leaders that they will get a better deal at US ScAIR. Who in their right mind would think that any corporation would take on a high paid unproductive work force and turn it into gold? It's the assets their after boys and girls. Not you lAAzy asses.

Not the right decision, and time will tell. You have only yourselves to blame if this goes through. Oh by the way, you can rest assure that the AMR managers will get their Golden Parachutes and the only thing you will get is the Golden Shaft!'

All of a sudden a lAAzy workforce will have a rebirth and start working to be productive. Sure! By the way, if you believe the unions I have some Ocean Front property for sale in Florida and I'll even throw in a bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan.

What a deal!
Toad

UK

#7 Apr 27, 2012
tulaaretired wrote:
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Musician..........WELCOME BACK to the commentary, I missed you!
You're absolutely correct. Did you read my post?
'So what flavor Kool Aid was W.Douglas Parker serving at the union discussions? Whatever is was it convinced the ignorant and stupid union leaders that they will get a better deal at US ScAIR. Who in their right mind would think that any corporation would take on a high paid unproductive work force and turn it into gold? It's the assets their after boys and girls. Not you lAAzy asses.
Not the right decision, and time will tell. You have only yourselves to blame if this goes through. Oh by the way, you can rest assure that the AMR managers will get their Golden Parachutes and the only thing you will get is the Golden Shaft!'
All of a sudden a lAAzy workforce will have a rebirth and start working to be productive. Sure! By the way, if you believe the unions I have some Ocean Front property for sale in Florida and I'll even throw in a bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan.
What a deal!
You seem pretty sure of yourself what w/ the demonstrative terms being thrown @ front line employees. Ever made a mistake, ever thought you were fighting for the best and had to re-calibrate? When you condemn an entire workforce you show ill placed anger, hurt and above all ignorance. The AL industry is a blue collar industry and change will take place whether you fight it or not. Now, here's a non rhetorical question for you. If you were leading the group to survive, what would you suggest the 1st point of business to be? Hurl insults? Demean workers? Be totally negative in your approach to problem solving? I wouldn't follow you anywhere. I betcha about 57,000 AMR employees would say the same. Step aside old man w/ even older ideas and let the younger generation take over. You spent ur time destructing.......these folks will spend their time constructing, in what ever form that takes. It's always darkest b4 the sunrise.
Musician

Irving, TX

#8 Apr 30, 2012
Toad wrote:
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You seem pretty sure of yourself what w/ the demonstrative terms being thrown @ front line employees. Ever made a mistake, ever thought you were fighting for the best and had to re-calibrate? When you condemn an entire workforce you show ill placed anger, hurt and above all ignorance. The AL industry is a blue collar industry and change will take place whether you fight it or not. Now, here's a non rhetorical question for you. If you were leading the group to survive, what would you suggest the 1st point of business to be? Hurl insults? Demean workers? Be totally negative in your approach to problem solving? I wouldn't follow you anywhere. I betcha about 57,000 AMR employees would say the same. Step aside old man w/ even older ideas and let the younger generation take over. You spent ur time destructing.......these folks will spend their time constructing, in what ever form that takes. It's always darkest b4 the sunrise.
Speaking of "condemnation" ... what about the things AA unions and employees have been saying about AA leaders for years. Do you think those things make AA leadership feel all warm and fuzzy about working with their unions and employee groups.

Mistakes have been made by leadership and rank & file, but the appropriate focus for everyone is THE SUCCESS OF THE COMPANY. If the company falters or ceases to exist, everyone loses. Everyone works for the company and everyone's fortunes rise and fall with those of the company.

I would want a workforce and a leadership group who both understand their dependence on the success of the company and on their interdependence on each other to accomplish that success.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#9 Apr 30, 2012
Is USAir the answer? Most likely, No. Is USAir not the management team the AA rank and file have been disgusted with for the last decade. Yes. The new team will have a chance, things will not be as pretty as they seem today, and in the end there will still be problems. BUT The work force at AA is older.(All of the young ones have been laid off during the shrink to survive portion of the "get by" strategy... don't get me started) This will buy time for the rest of us AMR planned to kick to the curb to make it to at least the early retirement age.
Nats

Winston Salem, NC

#10 May 1, 2012
There is an old saying that applies.
"Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know." Are AA employees about to make a deal with a D____.
I work for Parker and he lies, he will tie up every union issue with his lawyers. Greed is never satisfied and AA management and USAirways are both the same. Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed.
Jeff Jones

Dallas, TX

#11 May 11, 2012
Musician wrote:
What makes anyone think a bunch of people who have been "devoted" to hating the company they work for all their professional lives are going to act any differently with a new company ... at least for very long.
Management gets the unions that they deserve. Look at the unions and management of the worlds most successful airline, Southwest. I am thinking that most of the employees at Southwest are "devoted" to loving their airline. if you treat people fairly and provide good leadership while making good management decisions then a company most likely will be successful and have happy employees. If you do the opposite of that like American airlines, well, I guess you get the opposite results.
Cableguy

Fort Mill, SC

#12 May 11, 2012
Show me a merger where there wasn't a layoff. You can bet that if a merger goes through the unions will sit back while Parker and his crew clean out the unneccessary workers, as the unions don't want to stir up trouble and loose those dues paying members. Remember it is all about money for both Parker and the Unions. There will be increased outsourcing and any duplications at the major hubs will be cut. When you have a group of people like the ones in PHX that do nothing but sit in their cubicles and look at charts and graphs, they will take advantage of their disconnect from the workers out in the field and in their "COLD" way proudly cut here and there, all the while proudly showing Parker what they have done as they pat themselves on the back. When you have the headquarters located safely far away form the workforce, it is very easy to cut and slash the workers, after all...they just have to report to the "Beancounters" in PHX.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#13 May 11, 2012
Cableguy wrote:
Show me a merger where there wasn't a layoff. You can bet that if a merger goes through the unions will sit back while Parker and his crew clean out the unneccessary workers, as the unions don't want to stir up trouble and loose those dues paying members. Remember it is all about money for both Parker and the Unions. There will be increased outsourcing and any duplications at the major hubs will be cut. When you have a group of people like the ones in PHX that do nothing but sit in their cubicles and look at charts and graphs, they will take advantage of their disconnect from the workers out in the field and in their "COLD" way proudly cut here and there, all the while proudly showing Parker what they have done as they pat themselves on the back. When you have the headquarters located safely far away form the workforce, it is very easy to cut and slash the workers, after all...they just have to report to the "Beancounters" in PHX.
Parker has alrady put layoff estimates at 6200. That said plan on 8000. Those layoffs will all be down the road as they figure things out... AMR will layoff 12000 and do it as fast as they can. A USAir merger preserves some hope in the current due to be shut down AA downline stations at least for a few years.

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