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American Air signs deal to outsource some flying

There are 16 comments on the KRGV story from Sep 12, 2012, titled American Air signs deal to outsource some flying. In it, KRGV reports that:

American Airlines has agreed to outsource some of its regional flying to SkyWest Inc., part of American's plan to cut costs while it's under bankruptcy protection.

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Since: May 08

Santee CA

#1 Sep 12, 2012
Outsource is the new mantra of AA.. They got advice from Bain Consulting, the outsource gurus. Icahn, I mean Horton did the same thing at AT&T before returning to AA and overthrowing the Arpey reign.

“He’s probably the right guy, with the right tools to do this job,” said Ray Neidl, a Maxim Group LLC analyst in New York, who predicted Nov. 18 that AMR might go bankrupt within the next year.“He had the experience of taking AT&T through a restructuring and a sale.”

In taking the CEO’s post at Fort Worth, Texas-based AMR, Horton capped a career at the company that began in 1985 and bracketed almost four years at the old AT&T Corp., the long- distance company descended from the one-time parent of the Bell system. As AT&T’s chief financial officer, he led the review of options culminating with a 2005 takeover by SBC Communications Corp
Angry White United Pilot

Everett, WA

#3 Sep 13, 2012
Any pilot who outsources at American will be SCABS, and will be banned from the jumpseat at United/Continental.

You name will end up on the internet SCAB list forever.
118 seat goal

Laurel, MD

#4 Sep 13, 2012
Angry White United Pilot wrote:
Any pilot who outsources at American will be SCABS, and will be banned from the jumpseat at United/Continental.
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You name will end up on the internet SCAB list forever.
This is a good question...... basically the SkyWest Inc. is scabbing out there pilots......

Actually, any outsourced regional could be considered to be scabbing out its employees.
Victor Vector

Dallas, TX

#5 Sep 13, 2012
Prost wrote:
Outsource is the new mantra of
Actually they're the last to outsource regional flying. Skywest already flies for Delta, United, USAirways and Alaska.
Victor Vector

Dallas, TX

#6 Sep 13, 2012
Angry White United Pilot wrote:
SCABS, and will be banned from the jumpseat at United/Continental.
The company determines jumpseat policy not the Captain. UA already outsources flying anyway.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#7 Sep 14, 2012
Victor Vector wrote:
<quoted text>Actually they're the last to outsource regional flying. Skywest already flies for Delta, United, USAirways and Alaska.
There was a brief time when there was no Eagle at O'Hare in the late '80s. Then they were on one side of the G finger. Next, the whole thing, which was remodeled to add gates. Since I left they have moved into the lower H gates and L. Eagle is a top 10 carrier in RPM. Now AMR needs to bring in help. You thought you hated the S-80. You've going to love an RJ. I guess AA can't get the new planes fast enough.
One Man

Kowloon, Hong Kong

#8 Sep 15, 2012
Then ..... United will be the next to outsource the ground job in the coming future ?

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#9 Sep 16, 2012
One Man wrote:
Then ..... United will be the next to outsource the ground job in the coming future ?
The career ramper is a dying breed. AA stayed out of BK and lost a cost advantage. They now have that back. The competition is cool with that right? NO... They will do more outsourcing. Now AA is behind again, so in 6 years when that ramp contract is up , say goodbye to more jobs. The cycle repeats. Here is the problem. As you replace living wage with lowest bidder, the consumer (employee) has to cut costs at home. You dine out less, cut the cable TV, lower the cell phone plan, buy low cost groceries. Drive and vacation less. As these business lose money they cut. Employee wages if not employees. This country is on a dangerous downward spiral. Obama, Romney, My dog, it doesn't matter. The middle class taxpaying hard worker is becoming lower class. The middle class is what keeps the upper class upper. They are making money now, but thier greed is milking the cash cow dry. They are building thier own downfall. I feel sorry for the next generation
steve

Bedford, VA

#10 Sep 16, 2012
Prost wrote:
<quoted text>The career ramper is a dying breed. AA stayed out of BK and lost a cost advantage. They now have that back. The competition is cool with that right? NO... They will do more outsourcing. Now AA is behind again, so in 6 years when that ramp contract is up , say goodbye to more jobs. The cycle repeats. Here is the problem. As you replace living wage with lowest bidder, the consumer (employee) has to cut costs at home. You dine out less, cut the cable TV, lower the cell phone plan, buy low cost groceries. Drive and vacation less. As these business lose money they cut. Employee wages if not employees. This country is on a dangerous downward spiral. Obama, Romney, My dog, it doesn't matter. The middle class taxpaying hard worker is becoming lower class. The middle class is what keeps the upper class upper. They are making money now, but thier greed is milking the cash cow dry. They are building thier own downfall. I feel sorry for the next generation
Quote "This country is on a dangerous downward spiral. Obama, Romney, My dog, it doesn't matter." Great comment, but the whole world is in a downward spiral. The masses don't understand the good old days are gone forever, get used to the new normal.Those hoping for a return to high wages, good benefits, pensions are deluding themselves. How many times will people swallow all the tags lines,I.E.,change you can believe in, contract with America, thousand points of light, believe in America, etc.
A few years ago on cnbc or a similar channel an economist was asked what recommendations they had for their listeners and the reply was, "you heard the expression, live within your means, I am recommending living below your means." Great financial advise!
Simplify your life and don't let luxuries become necessities, turn off the television, get outside, spend more time with family, help those who truly need help, experience the happiness that comes from giving of yourselves and drawing closer to friends and family.
Thad McCotter

Midlothian, TX

#11 Sep 16, 2012
One Man wrote:
Then ..... United will be the next to outsource the ground job in the coming future ?
United has outsourced ground handling at many airports.
Jim Smith

Fort Worth, TX

#12 Sep 18, 2012
Under Horton Everything at American is being outsourced so when your plane falls out of the sky blame the Skywest Pilot, the Contract Mechanic, the Contract Flight Attendant for not getting everyone out of the plane properly and the Contract Baggage Handler for loading those (Oxygen Generators) and blame the Contract weight and Balance people for getting it wrong and causing the plane to stall, sink and crash.

this about sums it up....
Manuel

New Port Richey, FL

#13 Sep 18, 2012
Mi And Capt Jose we go to Airplane Fly Skool, We Fly you Planes Much Cheep... No Need Sky West.
Eastern Scab Pilot

Everett, WA

#14 Sep 18, 2012
Manuel wrote:
Mi And Capt Jose we go to Airplane Fly Skool, We Fly you Planes Much Cheep... No Need Sky West.
Sir; it would be an honor to fly with you, and Capt Jose. Together we can make American Airlines a truely union free airline.
United Sucks

Bakersfield, CA

#15 Sep 20, 2012
Angry White United Pilot wrote:
Any pilot who outsources at American will be SCABS, and will be banned from the jumpseat at United/Continental.
You name will end up on the internet SCAB list forever.
American sucks and who wants to work for United anyways.. they are a piece of crap airline to start off with, you have to be dumb to work there.
wla1989

Las Vegas, NV

#16 Sep 21, 2012
Victor Vector wrote:
<quoted text>The company determines jumpseat policy not the Captain. UA already outsources flying anyway.
The Captain always has the final decision as to who rides the Jumpseat not the company. Do you even know where a jumpseat is? I still have my scab list from the Eastern Strike they do exsist, Idiot
Frank Stites

Dallas, TX

#17 Sep 22, 2012
wla1989 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Captain always has the final decision as to who rides the Jumpseat not the company. Do you even know where a jumpseat is? I still have my scab list from the Eastern Strike they do exsist, Idiot
If AA Captains deny the jumpseat to any other airlines then AA commuters will suffer because they won't be allowed on the other airline. It will be a war no one will win. Mainline crews are often dependent on regionals to get home.

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