Pit bulls: vicious or victims?

Pit bulls: vicious or victims?

There are 107 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Jul 12, 2008, titled Pit bulls: vicious or victims?. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

Sara Meehan has seen the reports of pit bull attacks and calls in some areas for pit bull bans.

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Since: Jul 08

Campbellford, Canada

#1 Jul 12, 2008
[quote]
Perhaps most damning is an extensive list compiled by Merritt Clifton of Animal People,...[/quote]

It`s not damning when you understand that this "study" is nothing but a collection of Newspaper stories.
[quote]Junk "Science" - Merritt Clifton's (Animal People)
Mr. Clifton's "study" can be found on a prominent dog-bite attorney website and is being used as "statistical evidence" of breed behaviors by those who seem unable or unwilling to recognize the critical errors in data collection and the damaging and erroneous conclusions drawn from a biased and flawed sample.
Read the rest here
http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/...
Another problem is the "identification" of dogs by unqualified people.
[quote]Pomeranian was killed by what witnesses said was a pit bull[/quote]
http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/...
[quote]Everything is a Pit bull, whether it is or not: Again
On June 4, 2008, at least 29 news articles were run on a story about a Los Angeles boy "mauled by a Pit bull." Some of the headlines were:
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"LA toddler hospitalized after being mauled by Pit bulls" - Fresno Bee
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"2-year-old stable after pit bull bites his face" - LA Times
The Mercury News even reported that two Pit bulls attacked the child. Another article described the dog as the "family Pit bull." The Los Angeles Times reported the boy in "critical condition after he was bitten by a pit bull."
Perhaps the media should not bear the brunt for this serious error, as the source of the breed mis-identification was found to have originated from the Los Angeles Police Department.
The LAPD should not attempt to identify breeds of dogs or comment on canine behavior. The average police officer is no more skilled in breed identification than is the average reporter. Perhaps in the realization of this, the LAPD later referred all inquiries on the dog involved in this incident to the city's animal services department.
The Los Angeles Department of Animal Services released a statement declaring the dog involved in the attack on the boy was "in fact a shepherd mix."

Note: Acknowledgement is given to the Los Angeles Times for printing a "For the Record" remark on the erroneous breed identification of the dog in this incident. On June 7th the LA Times printed the following: "An article in Thursday's California section about a boy attacked by his family's dog quoted authorities as saying the dog was a pit bull. The Los Angeles Department of Animal Services said Friday that the animal that bit the toddler was a shepherd mix."
However, this small retraction cannot possibly undo the damage that was done by the media. All the headlines run by the LA Times which initially identified this dog to be a Pit bull have not been pulled and can still be found in the LA Times archives.
Additionally, more than one attorney website and dog bite "advocacy" website has picked up this "Pit bull attack" story and posted it on their website as additional "evidence" of the nature of Pit bulls.[/quote]

Focusing on Breed or perceived Breed is not helpful in reducing bites or the very rare fatalities.
More than 50 Breeds of dogs have been involved in fatalities.
Let`s start listening to the Experts
http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/...

“OMG quit fussin!!!”

Since: Jan 08

Poq. and Proud of it

#3 Jul 12, 2008
Pit Bulls are dogs that have extreme strength. There was a report that stated that weiner dogs bite more often then pitbulls. Of course a weiner dog can't do as much damage. Dalmations are high strung and tend to bite as do German Shepards, Dobermans, Rotties, Akitas, Chow Chows and just about any other larger dog. A lot of this mess has to do with how the dog is raised and trained. Heck, I have seen cats tear someone up. Often in the case of owner and dog- it is the owner that is more of an animal than the animal itself.
Hampton resident

Norfolk, VA

#4 Jul 12, 2008
i love my american staffordshire terrier aka Pitbull it is the best dog i ever owned. my 3 kids love him to. this breed has excellent temperment around children.
its never the dog its the owners!
Garbarge Dogs

Yorktown, VA

#5 Jul 13, 2008
Pitbulls are stupid animals that serve no use, unless you are thug wannabe that needs them as a statis symbol.
The breed should be wiped off the face of the earth with no undue haste, along with their retarted owners.

JWG

Since: Jul 08

Williamsburg

#7 Jul 13, 2008
Is it to late to ship them to China?

“30 something Wife & Mom”

Since: Aug 07

Eastern VA

#8 Jul 13, 2008
Any dog, no matter what the breed, is only as good as the training its' owner gives it. The last pit bull I encountered was a big baby. Gerbils were more vicious than this dog. I agree with the above posters, breed has nothing to do with it... the owners are the ones who ruin pit bulls by training them to be aggressive.
Jerry

Westland, MI

#9 Jul 13, 2008
I've known plenty of Pit Bulls that were nothing short of docile - as loyal and friendly as any Lab. How many of you realize that the dog Petey from the Little Rascals, that we all loved so much, was, yes, a Pit Bull.
Love my pitbull

United States

#10 Jul 13, 2008
Garbage dogs.....you are cordially invited to kiss my pitbulls ass! Thank you and have a nice day:)
GattonS

Topeka, KS

#11 Jul 28, 2008
Yes a lot of pit bill owners are morons and should never be allowed to reproduce much less have a dog. But narrow minded people are the source of the problem and I hate narrow minded people so should you be wiped of the face of the earth?????
Garbarge Dogs wrote:
Pitbulls are stupid animals that serve no use, unless you are thug wannabe that needs them as a statis symbol.
The breed should be wiped off the face of the earth with no undue haste, along with their retarted owners.
GattonS

Topeka, KS

#12 Jul 28, 2008
Oh and it is spelled r-e-t-a-r-d-e-d. I can have my pit bark it to you if you need him to...

DHM

“Gotta Love Dave....”

Since: Jan 08

Hampton

#13 Jul 28, 2008
Right on - pit bulls shouldn't be banned - people should. Quoting the post that stated 2K publicized dog attacks (some fatal) - for real, humans are far more dangerous than dogs.

“ Harm None Do What Ye Will”

Since: Jun 08

here

#14 Jul 28, 2008
i agree with pretty much everybody on here. the pitbull can be one of the best dogs you will ever own.they have a strong sense of loyalty and are very smart dogs. it's the people that train them to be mean are the ones who should be put to sleep when the dog turns vicious,not the og, because they are the reason the dog ends up that way.a frien of mine has a pit name "hellboy" and believe me he is the total opposite of his name. every time someone comes to his house "hellboy" carries on like a puppy trying to lick the people and get them to pet him.pitbulls,like all dogs, are only mean if people make them that way.
Parent of a Pitbull

Saginaw, MI

#15 Jul 29, 2008
The breed is simply amazing. Very strong, athletic, loving and loyal. It all falls on how the dog is raised and not the breed itself. These dogs want nothing other than to make the people they love happy. Yes some people use these dogs stregnth it the wrong way. Once agian not the breeds fault that falls on the owner. My pitbull is a big baby. When we have company he "attacks" them with nothing but love and lots of kisses. Hes my 9month olds bestfriend, as she is his. He is one of the best dogs i have ever had the privelage of owning.
Owner of a Cuddlebug

Canada

#16 Aug 23, 2008
This breed is amazing. Strong, smart, loving, loyal, and a big baby. My pitbull/bulldog is the biggest suck ever. She follows me everywhere, and snuggles into me when i'm sitting on the couch. Will do anything to make you happy, followed with kisses n' love.
Methos

Newport News, VA

#17 Aug 23, 2008
Garbarge Dogs wrote:
Pitbulls are stupid animals that serve no use, unless you are thug wannabe that needs them as a statis symbol.
The breed should be wiped off the face of the earth with no undue haste, along with their retarted owners.
It would appear, are the stupid animal that serve no use. Oh, did I fail to mention, you are an idiot.

“ Harm None Do What Ye Will”

Since: Jun 08

here

#18 Aug 24, 2008
Methos wrote:
<quoted text>It would appear, are the stupid animal that serve no use. Oh, did I fail to mention, you are an idiot.
sub human dillweeds like yourself should be wiped off the face of the earth. it's people like you that gave the breed a bad reputation in the first place.i bet you think that black cats are really bad luck,too.
Methos

Newport News, VA

#19 Aug 24, 2008
wykkan wrote:
<quoted text>sub human dillweeds like yourself should be wiped off the face of the earth. it's people like you that gave the breed a bad reputation in the first place.i bet you think that black cats are really bad luck,too.
What the He77 are you talking about. I am very active in the canine community. I like the breed had have friends who own them and compete with them. Get a grip before you type. Come up to me with that dillweed attitude in person and you would have a problem. Better be careful before you jump the gun friend.

“ Harm None Do What Ye Will”

Since: Jun 08

here

#20 Aug 24, 2008
Methos wrote:
<quoted text>What the He77 are you talking about. I am very active in the canine community. I like the breed had have friends who own them and compete with them. Get a grip before you type. Come up to me with that dillweed attitude in person and you would have a problem. Better be careful before you jump the gun friend.
ideserved that,i'm sorry the comment was ment for 'garbage dog'. again i apologize
Methos

Newport News, VA

#21 Aug 25, 2008
wykkan wrote:
<quoted text>ideserved that,i'm sorry the comment was ment for 'garbage dog'. again i apologize
LOL...I figured you would re-read it. No Problemo !! I am a big canine fan and believe, blame the owners not the breeds. Many other breeds have more agressive tendencies, including the Toy Breeds. Only problem with the Pit Bulls is their strength. Should one become agressive (as can any breed) you have a big "strong" problem. They are pretty much victims of bad publicity and news coverage. As with any animal, care must always be taken.

“ Harm None Do What Ye Will”

Since: Jun 08

here

#22 Aug 25, 2008
Methos wrote:
<quoted text>LOL...I figured you would re-read it. No Problemo !! I am a big canine fan and believe, blame the owners not the breeds. Many other breeds have more agressive tendencies, including the Toy Breeds. Only problem with the Pit Bulls is their strength. Should one become agressive (as can any breed) you have a big "strong" problem. They are pretty much victims of bad publicity and news coverage. As with any animal, care must always be taken.
a friend of mine has a pitbull and she's a real sweetie.she's real friendly and lovable with everybody especially kids.then another friend has a little og that would rather bite then to let you pet him.neither one of these dogs have been trained,except for being housebroken],so that proves there that pits are not born vicious dogs,the owners are.

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