Outpour of Opinions at Western Bypass...

Outpour of Opinions at Western Bypass Public Hearing

There are 40 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Jul 13, 2011, titled Outpour of Opinions at Western Bypass Public Hearing. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

The last time there was a public hearing on the Western Bypass, 7,000 people showed up; that was 20 years ago.

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County Resident

Raleigh, NC

#22 Jul 14, 2011
As I understand it, the bypass's purpose is to take through truck traffic off Rt 29. Imagine how much nicer it would be not to have all those trucks clogging up the road. It's true about the Lynchburg bypass. Anyone who has traveled into Madison Heights and on to the L'burg Expressway can't help but notice that traffic has decreased by at least half. Anyone going through L'burg on the way to Roanoke is amazed at how little time it takes to get to the other side of town. I don't believe that Rt 29 businesses will suffer because all that through traffic is not stopping to shop anyway. How come so many people protest this and are silent when developers want to build a bazillion new housing units (3 developments are on the table) which will bring more traffic, overcrowded schools, limit our water resources and make life more miserable because of it? Developments will impact quality of life more than building a bypass. Let's hear some protest on that issue, people!
Bill

Charlottesville, VA

#23 Jul 14, 2011
Okay, grownups, we know that out here in the real world there is rarely, if ever, a perfect solution. That's the case with the Western Bypass. It's not a perfect solution to the traffic on 29 North, far from it. But it is the best of the feasible and (potentially) fundable alternatives. Doing nothing, or doing more studies, or ignoring the long-term consequences of degraded infrastructure are a lot more unpalatable. Last time I checked people in this country can still vote with their feet. And do you think businesses will never leave no matter how bad the traffic gets? Think again. Far from heedlessly promoting the Bypass, the BOS members in favor are looking to secure dedicated funding for a number of critical local highway projects PLUS the Bypass, if that is the only deal the state will make. Albemarle has a chance to nail down some significant funding (there's $0 otherwise) as, amazingly, other localities to the south cheer us on. When's the last time that happened? Sure, there's still work to be done to tweak the Bypass plan, especially at its northern end, and the public needs to be fully informed throughout. Critics are right, in the end it won't be perfect. But it might actually get done. And you'll still have the option to scorn the Bypass and plod through 14 traffic lights, although probably there's no semi hot on your tail. Sorry, it's over on the Bypass.
gayle

Charlottesville, VA

#24 Jul 14, 2011
we need this road people. we are growning and the charlottesville have to change also or we will be in trouble. so get over it and let this happen. it will relieve a lot of traffic
ActionJackson

South Boston, VA

#25 Jul 14, 2011
Patriotically Speaking wrote:
When Thorpe opens her mouth either something wacky and stupid comes out or a double cheesbuger goes in.
So so sad...
PS..you are BS..I am willing to bet that you don't the guts to say that to her face..oh, never mind..you're a liberal..you have somebody elses guts!
from driver

United States

#26 Jul 14, 2011
I love by-passes. When I travel I love by-passes. Any time I can avoid going through a town I don't want to go through I'm glad they have a by-pass. I love them.
Freedom

Charlottesville, VA

#27 Jul 14, 2011
Cry Babies wrote:
Is it just me or does it seem like to only opposition to any projects regarding Cville, or Albemarle are coming from groups where the average age is in the retirement range. They hence have nothing better to do then fight to save their precious way of life. So let me get this straight we are worried about the environment?? but yet we find it ok to allow 5000+ vehicles to sit idle while waiting to turn onto 29/250S. Yeah that great for the environment??. Next- "But the Bypass will divert traffic away from businesses on 29" No it will improve it because people will start using 29 again instead of the interstate which is Earlysville Road and others as there will be less traffic fighting to get THROUGH town. Define Bypass Verb: Go past or around. So go around everything start at North Garden and take it all the way to Ruckersville. That is a bypass./rant
So how is life in the UK? Perhaps we could do what London does and require people to have a permit to drive on certain streets at certain times. That would increase bus ridership and then there would be no need for a non-bypass so called "bypass." And what do you have against people that have reached a certain age in life? If you live long enough you will reach that age yourself.
Captain Obvious

Charlottesville, VA

#28 Jul 14, 2011
Crybaby, the opposition is pretty much the same leftist idiots that were dirty stinking hippies back in the 60's and early 70's. They took baths, tried to clean themselves up enough to look presentable, but you can only keep lipstick on a pig for so long.
central va marine

Forest City, IA

#29 Jul 14, 2011
I too live north of the city. I too travel 29. I too want a bypass. I want a southern bypass out Scottsville Road that takes in the ugly gardens at the Avon street intersection. Oh Mr Highway builder, can you add a side route thru Sir Rodney,s yard. I vote yes on both, late at night.
french dip

AOL

#30 Jul 14, 2011
If the people in Lynchburg really, really want a C'ville bypass, let them tax their people to pay for it. Why should C'ville residents pay to enrichen their citizens??
I Left Cville Socialism

Waynesboro, VA

#31 Jul 14, 2011
french dip: They did via state funds that are paying for it. You really don't understand how taxes work do you?
UVA FAN

Charlottesville, VA

#32 Jul 14, 2011
This is going to be tied up in court for years, just like the meadow creek parkway. So let the party begin!
Kaine Supporter

Petersburg, VA

#33 Jul 14, 2011
DO NOT BUILD THE BY-PASS! Don't we have enough riff-raff in Albemarle County without bringing in all those crude men that would work on this project? I mean really who wants to go downtown on the mall and be confronted by dirty, unwashed men drinking and carousing? It's disgusting.
I Left Cville Socialism

Waynesboro, VA

#34 Jul 14, 2011
LOL yeah, all those crude unwashed *employed* men. Why, it's likely that the Haven gang and the Garret.. I mean Friendship gags may have some people to kick their butts down there! If they all get run off, who would Holly and Mayor Davey Champion?
Cry Babies

UK

#35 Jul 15, 2011
Freedom wrote:
<quoted text>
So how is life in the UK? Perhaps we could do what London does and require people to have a permit to drive on certain streets at certain times. That would increase bus ridership and then there would be no need for a non-bypass so called "bypass." And what do you have against people that have reached a certain age in life? If you live long enough you will reach that age yourself.
Wow you sir are truly clueless, did you ever think that maybe the server I'm using is based in the UK but I live and work in Cville. Because yeah everyone in the UK cares what happens in liberal Cville. The age thing is in reference to those ppl have nothing better to do than oppose everything the county/city tries to do.
Ann

Roanoke, VA

#36 Jul 15, 2011
They have NO guarantee of funding for local projects. No one has seen the "document". The secretary of transportation explicitly stated that funding would be taken from other projects and no projects were safe.

There are cheaper, better, options to reduce traffic and not put a super-highway through three of our beautiful schools.

I've lived here my entire life, but I don't think that gives me more of a say or makes me any better than someone who moved here. John Grisham has been here for many years, has raised his kids here, and has done a lot for this community. Just because he is famous you don't have to hate him :)
Ann

Roanoke, VA

#37 Jul 15, 2011
By the way, the bypass will save you 2-4 minutes on your commute at best (and will effect less than 10% of the traffic) and will cost 250-300 million that the state is going to have to BORROW. Not a wise use of the money.
I Left Cville Socialism

Waynesboro, VA

#38 Jul 16, 2011
No Ann, you don't have it right. That 10% of traffic that you so casually flaunt has an effect on ALL THE OTHER TRAFFIC on the road, slowing speed ramp-up from stops, making wide turns, etc. This keeps other traffic from moving at optimum speed, makes more light cycles needed for a given volume of traffic, etc.

Also the goal is NOT to reduce traffic. The goal is to accomodate the same amount or more on divergant paths. Stop double-speaking your zero-growth BS into the conversation.

You're obviously an Obama mama, complaining about a government having to borrow money certainly isn't your normal stripe. Why pull that card now unless it's the only one you have left with any chance of making a good hand?

Yeah, Grisham has spoken. So what? He's just another big moeny guy that sends an employee to drive on 29 to get stuff for him. His voice is no bigger than yours or that of the mom in Lynchburg trying to take her kids to the Library of Congress theater in Culpeper. What's your next move, bring in Jane Fonda?
Mike

Charlottesville, VA

#39 Jul 18, 2011
wow, "i left socialism", you sound really bitter. Take it easy with the personal insults. She just has a different opinion than you do. Chill out, your blood pressure must be through the roof! Just because we need more roads does not mean this particular project is going to get us the most bang for our buck. I was nothing in Ann's post indicating that she was an "obama mama" (thats a new one) or zero growth. I think she is smart to wonder where the money is going to come from (especially because it will be borrowed and because it is not currently in the State's budget).
I hope you have a nice day and that I don't ever get stuck in a traffic jam with you!
BB Wulf

Charlottesville, VA

#40 Jul 18, 2011
The money is in the VDOT budget specifically for road projects. Either we use it for this purpose or some other road project does. The need for a bypass is obvious to anyone that travels the roadway in question, and right of way has already been purchased for the bulk of the intended path.

Would you rather it be used on additional bike lanes that you'll never use yourself but applaud your "greeness" over?
reality check

Charlottesville, VA

#41 Jul 19, 2011
County Resident wrote:
As I understand it, the bypass's purpose is to take through truck traffic off Rt 29. Imagine how much nicer it would be not to have all those trucks clogging up the road. It's true about the Lynchburg bypass. Anyone who has traveled into Madison Heights and on to the L'burg Expressway can't help but notice that traffic has decreased by at least half. Anyone going through L'burg on the way to Roanoke is amazed at how little time it takes to get to the other side of town. I don't believe that Rt 29 businesses will suffer because all that through traffic is not stopping to shop anyway. How come so many people protest this and are silent when developers want to build a bazillion new housing units (3 developments are on the table) which will bring more traffic, overcrowded schools, limit our water resources and make life more miserable because of it? Developments will impact quality of life more than building a bypass. Let's hear some protest on that issue, people!
I agree!! Unfortunately, the BOS see dollar signs at the thought of any new development and the developers know what buttons to push to get their projects approved. I've been to many of their so-called "public opinion" meetings and it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out what their game is: their minds are made up, and they don't care what their constituants want. Our only recourse to stop this madness is to vote them OUT of office!!

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