Court faults PUCO on AEP's rates

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The law: In 2008, Gov. Ted Strickland signed Senate Bill 221, a law designed to respond to perceived shortcomings in Ohio's deregulated electricity market.
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Since: Feb 11

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PUCO (Puke-o is more like it) has been AEP's lap dog/yes man & all the other unilities for

years. Nothing will change except to shift some of management around & then it will be

business as usual....take as much as you can from the customers with some bribes for

PUCO staff. Greed & dishonesty is the business way.
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Cut PUCOs money, they screwed up and do not deserve a "merit pay" raise.
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The PUCO is a bunch of political appointees that are absolutely WORTHLES! They are not, and never will be, an advocate for the consumer. The PUCO we currently have should be paid by the utilities, because that is who they have been working for! Now this nut we have pretending to be a governor wants to cut the budget of the Office of the Ohio Consumers' Counsel by 51 percent, anyone out there wonder why! The consumer may have won, but AEP gets to KEEP the $63 million rip-off, and others, they got away with, so this republican court, which almost never rules against the puco, new it wouldn't cost aep any money! WHAT A JOKE!
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"The Dispatch attempted to contact the PUCO employee responsible for the error, but he was out of town at his new vacation condo in the Virgin Islands..."
FoShizzle

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ramseyjames wrote:
The PUCO is a bunch of political appointees that are absolutely WORTHLES! They are not, and never will be, an advocate for the consumer. The PUCO we currently have should be paid by the utilities, because that is who they have been working for! Now this nut we have pretending to be a governor wants to cut the budget of the Office of the Ohio Consumers' Counsel by 51 percent, anyone out there wonder why! The consumer may have won, but AEP gets to KEEP the $63 million rip-off, and others, they got away with, so this republican court, which almost never rules against the puco, new it wouldn't cost aep any money! WHAT A JOKE!
You're right. Let's just get rid of the PUCO and stop all this government interfering with corporations like AEP to set rates. Corporations know best, so let's let them decide. I'm sure Governor K would agree.

(BTW, PUCO's cost is included in your electric rates)
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I had a bill for $286.00 for one month. At that time my adverage usage was around $28. Just that one month was it out of line. I contacted DP&L and was told "You used it, you pay for it or we will shut you off,"
I contacted the PUCO. They forwarded my complaint letter to the same guy at DP&L. He sent me a letter saying the same thing "You used it, you pay for it."
I sent the PUCO a copy of the letter, they forwarded it to the same guy.
I didn't use it but I paid for it!
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mckeestown wrote:
I had a bill for $286.00 for one month. At that time my adverage usage was around $28. Just that one month was it out of line. I contacted DP&L and was told "You used it, you pay for it or we will shut you off,"
I contacted the PUCO. They forwarded my complaint letter to the same guy at DP&L. He sent me a letter saying the same thing "You used it, you pay for it."
I sent the PUCO a copy of the letter, they forwarded it to the same guy.
I didn't use it but I paid for it!
You should have contacted the Ohio Consumers' Counsel. They're specifically designated to ADVOCATE FOR CONSUMERS and that office is set up to handle the very type of dispute you described. Why Kasich's cutting the OCC's budget is beyond reason, especially since the OCC is not paid from the General Revenue Fund. Says a lot about who Kasich and the PUCO are beholden to.
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So potentially $850 million dollars that consumers were overcharged by AEP, yet Kasich wants to cut the budget of the agency that protects consumers for such overcharges. Hmm wonder who's side he is on?
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Guess which one is Obama?

Obama sings the Big Sweet Blues:::::::

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Is it OK to over-charge, take our money and build a bandstand down town ?
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want to talk about over pay people all my sister in law does all day is write email I know there a private compamy but don't talk about other people
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ramseyjames wrote:
The PUCO is a bunch of political appointees that are absolutely WORTHLES! They are not, and never will be, an advocate for the consumer. The PUCO we currently have should be paid by the utilities, because that is who they have been working for! Now this nut we have pretending to be a governor wants to cut the budget of the Office of the Ohio Consumers' Counsel by 51 percent, anyone out there wonder why! The consumer may have won, but AEP gets to KEEP the $63 million rip-off, and others, they got away with, so this republican court, which almost never rules against the puco, new it wouldn't cost aep any money! WHAT A JOKE!
The PUCO is funded by the utilities - well, really you and I as the utilities' customers. The Ohio Consumers Counsel also is funded by fees on the utilities. This is why cutting their budget makes no sense. It does nothing to help close Ohio's budget deficit and only costs us, the utility customers, a dollar or so per year on our rates. All it does is reduce the OCC's ability to stand up for Ohio citizens and businesses who have to pay higher and higher rates for utility services.
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HUH???
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This business about fail-safe laws to protect the big boys is bunk. The utility law disallows prior increases, even when the increase was determined to be unjustified by the Court. Compare this to the approach of SB5. Kasich contends that SB5 allows collective bargaining, but it's not bargaining when the gov't agency has the final word, no matter what. No wonder Kasich wants to bring the Ohio Consumers Council to its knees. That's the only thing standing between corporate interests and citizens being swindled.

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Of course AEP needs to refund overcharges.
It has been increasingly obvious for years that the PUCO is in bed with the utilities it is supposed to be regulating.
On top of that, these recent rulings demonstrate that PUCO cannot be trusted to represent the Ohio consumer's needs.
Look at AEP: when Ohio has storms, AEP leads the way in utility outages. Not just in numbers (they’re big), but in percentages of customers. Where was PUCO in seeing that utility responsibilities were met? Who sees that the rules are fair, reasonable and equitable? PUCO? I think not.
I've lived in several states and in other places in Ohio. I find the utilities to be in the position to control the customer, and even abuse them.(Yeah, they do that! Try calling some of them out on a mistake on their part.)
The Ohio Consumer Council is the only real agency which is protecting the consumer's interests. The action of our governor to slash the budget of OCC is an action against the Ohio consumers. Note that cuts of the OCC budget will not reduce the budget deficit. The utilities should applaud the governor for helping them out.
Merge OCC with PUCO and what do you have? Eventually, just PUCO.
This attack on OCC would severely reduce it's capacity to defend the Ohio consumer. Big business has the governor's ear, but what about consumers?

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mckeestown wrote:
I had a bill for $286.00 for one month. At that time my adverage usage was around $28. Just that one month was it out of line. I contacted DP&L and was told "You used it, you pay for it or we will shut you off,"
I contacted the PUCO. They forwarded my complaint letter to the same guy at DP&L. He sent me a letter saying the same thing "You used it, you pay for it."
I sent the PUCO a copy of the letter, they forwarded it to the same guy.
I didn't use it but I paid for it!
Dayton pulled the same stunt on me back in 2003. They read the meter two weeks early when I bought my house in Troy. They said they couldn't find anything on the voice log when I complained, even though they had the date and time of the call. You'd think they would have to agree that the date of the closing on the house would have meant something. They could still have gone back to the previous owner with the reading I had. PUCO rolled over for Dayton Power when I complained. PUCO won't get my support, nor will Dayton Power.
Deregulation farce

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"Under Ohio's utility deregulation, customers have the right to buy electricity service from alternative providers...However...few choices are available."

CORRECTION: There are NO choices available for AEP customers (and most others).

http://www.puco.ohio.gov/puco/index.cfm/apple...

Electricity deregulation was a farce, a joke, a sham, a scam and a complete waste of A LOT of time and money for everyone involved. Ask anyone who actually knows something about electric utilities.

Where are the huge savings that the "consumer advocates" promised? They don't exist, because they could not exist, because it was an impossible, false promise from the word go.

Remember this the next time consumer advocates and big government promise you something for nothing.(See: "healthcare")

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Funny, if I were over charged at the store, I would return and get my money back. But here you can be over charged but they get to keep the money.
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ramseyjames wrote:
The PUCO is a bunch of political appointees that are absolutely WORTHLES! They are not, and never will be, an advocate for the consumer. The PUCO we currently have should be paid by the utilities, because that is who they have been working for! Now this nut we have pretending to be a governor wants to cut the budget of the Office of the Ohio Consumers' Counsel by 51 percent, anyone out there wonder why! The consumer may have won, but AEP gets to KEEP the $63 million rip-off, and others, they got away with, so this republican court, which almost never rules against the puco, new it wouldn't cost aep any money! WHAT A JOKE!
Yes. In this case, they were the Democrat appointees of former Governor Ted Strickland.
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Grove City J wrote:
Funny, if I were over charged at the store, I would return and get my money back. But here you can be over charged but they get to keep the money.
Utilities are highly regulated. Perhaps their partnership with government has changed them so they act more like the government and less like a business. This is not an argument to deregulate utilities. This is an explanation for why they don't feel a need to earn your business. They're typically the only business option available and you're forced to buy from them. In that way, utility rates are like tax rates.

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