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Newark to soak up sun to power water plant | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 13 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jun 25, 2011, titled Newark to soak up sun to power water plant | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

City officials have begun negotiations over a power-purchase agreement that will place a large solar field on the city's east side.

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Al-northside

United States

#1 Jun 25, 2011
Headline should read;
"Newark turns over control of city water supply to private investors!"
Or;
"Capitalism meets Environmentalism!"

Either way...less government and more private sector is ok with me.
Black Lion

Columbus, OH

#2 Jun 25, 2011
real smart. Let's buy some polluted land that is eroding into the river. Oh don't worry, we will only pay $15,000.00 per acre on paper. Taxpayers will pick up the other $4,500,000.00. We will tell them it was a good deal. They are too stupid to know better.
James Burkes

Dublin, OH

#3 Jun 25, 2011
So, how are they going to power the treatment plant when the sun doesn't shine? Last I checked, it gets dark about half the time, even in the best weather. Throw in cloudy days (Ohio isn't exactly Arizona on that count) and I'm wondering how much useful energy this thing is going to produce.
Black Lion

Columbus, OH

#4 Jun 25, 2011
James Burkes wrote:
So, how are they going to power the treatment plant when the sun doesn't shine? Last I checked, it gets dark about half the time, even in the best weather. Throw in cloudy days (Ohio isn't exactly Arizona on that count) and I'm wondering how much useful energy this thing is going to produce.
This is a straw deal. The investors will lose their shirt and don't care. How can that be? They are in it for the taxpayer subsidized tax benefits. They are the rich folks/corporations you liberal greenies are always screaming about. You pay the taxes and they suck up the subsidized benefits. And you claim to be the smart ones??? I think not.
James Burkes

Dublin, OH

#5 Jun 25, 2011
Black Lion wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a straw deal. The investors will lose their shirt and don't care. How can that be? They are in it for the taxpayer subsidized tax benefits. They are the rich folks/corporations you liberal greenies are always screaming about. You pay the taxes and they suck up the subsidized benefits. And you claim to be the smart ones??? I think not.
Hey, I'm the one questioning it, not only on political-economic grounds, but basic physics. I don't support these taxpayer-funded politically correct boondoggles. The simple fact is that things like solar and windpower achieve, at best, a 25% capacity factor. That means that they only produce about 25% of the energy their installed capacity can produce. If you were a utility company executive who proposed such a thing, you'd be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. For the cost of this thing, buying the land, installing the hardware, and keeping it running, they could buy centuries worth of grid-supplied power. Has anyone done an economic analysis of this project? Somehow I doubt it.
CoirGreenDOTcom

Colombo, Sri Lanka

#6 Jun 25, 2011
Interesting article for sure!
HRr 1249

Columbus, OH

#7 Jun 25, 2011
H.R. 1249: America Invents Act (GovTrack.us)Mar 30, 2011 – A bill in the U.S. Congress: To amend title 35, United States Code, to provide for patent reform.
www.govtrack.us › Congress › Legislation - Cached
Patent Reform - H.R.1249: America Invents Act - U.S. Congress ...Mar 29, 2011 – Changes the patent application system from one that awards patents to the first person to invent something to a system that awards the first ...
www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1249/show - Cached
Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012)- H.R.1249 ...Mar 30, 2011 –{link:' http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation... ',title:'THOMAS - Bill Summary and Status - H.R.1249'}. H.R.1249 ...
hdl.loc.gov › THOMAS Home › Bills, Resolutions - Cached
News for hr 1249
Houston Chronicle (blog) More Reaction to Passage of the America Invents Act (HR 1249)‎- 20 hours ago
by Stephen Albainy-Jenei There's more reaction to the passage of The Leahy-Smith America Invents Act, HR 1249, by the House of Representatives....Patent Baristas - 21 related articles
House Passes HR 1249‎- Patent Docs - 706 related articles
Patent Reform Update II‎- Patent Docs - 8 related articles - Shared by 5+
Mark

Lima, OH

#8 Jun 25, 2011
Just this week Newark stated that it cannot maintain it's streets with their current budget. Somehow, they can make time for a scam project like this though.

Oh, I know, it's all funded with free government money and private investors. We all know that's an outright lie. This thing is going to be a total disaster. The biggest problem I see is that they are pouring effort into this, while neglecting real problems. They haven't got the talent or will to address the problems that they are paid for, so they jump on some diversionary scam like this. Their hope is that the public lacks enough knowledge about solar power to see the truth of this matter.
James Burkes

Dublin, OH

#9 Jun 25, 2011
Here are the key points:

"The roughly seven-acre solar field will be financed entirely by private investors, who put up the money in exchange for a long-term contract with the city to buy all the power produced there. Federal incentives ending this year also give tax breaks and other incentives to investors, which makes starting the project quickly a priority for both the city and SolarVision."

The only thing making this project happen is government subsidies. The city will guarantee a market for their product. The feds will throw in massive tax subsidies. I really don't see where it is the city's business to be playing around with risky alternative energy schemes. Stick to the basics that city government is responsible for: protect the citizens, maintain the infrastructure, be friendly to business that employs the citizens. Leave the energy business to those whose business is energy.
citizenjam

Johnstown, OH

#10 Jun 25, 2011
How many sun days a year does Newark have? Enough or not enough? Taxpayers beware!
citizenjam

Johnstown, OH

#11 Jun 25, 2011
HRr 1249 wrote:
H.R. 1249: America Invents Act (GovTrack.us)Mar 30, 2011 – A bill in the U.S. Congress: To amend title 35, United States Code, to provide for patent reform.
www.govtrack.us › Congress › Legislation - Cached
Patent Reform - H.R.1249: America Invents Act - U.S. Congress ...Mar 29, 2011 – Changes the patent application system from one that awards patents to the first person to invent something to a system that awards the first ...
www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1249/show - Cached
Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012)- H.R.1249 ...Mar 30, 2011 –{link:' http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation... ',title:'THOMAS - Bill Summary and Status - H.R.1249'}. H.R.1249 ...
hdl.loc.gov › THOMAS Home › Bills, Resolutions - Cached
News for hr 1249
Houston Chronicle (blog) More Reaction to Passage of the America Invents Act (HR 1249)‎- 20 hours ago
by Stephen Albainy-Jenei There's more reaction to the passage of The Leahy-Smith America Invents Act, HR 1249, by the House of Representatives....Patent Baristas - 21 related articles
House Passes HR 1249‎- Patent Docs - 706 related articles
Patent Reform Update II‎- Patent Docs - 8 related articles - Shared by 5+
Wow! When the gov gets involved the taxpayer looses big!
citizenjam

Johnstown, OH

#12 Jun 25, 2011
You don't need sun to play golf!
Ron White

Newark, OH

#13 Jun 25, 2011
They could save alot of money and start the solar field just past the Billy Hilton. That there would be some cheap property.

The sun does not shine in Nerk very often. Seems to be dark all the time.

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